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2 great passes by Matt Ryan turned into picks because Julio decides to have no hands |
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fttJoin Date: 2008-03-17
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at least you have julio jones |
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I don't think you've seen no hands unless you watched a team with midnight green. |
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And without Julio the Falcons are a 6 win team |
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Nah falcons are a 9 win team without him |
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Are you joking? The Falcons are a 6-8 win team without Julio
Who else do you throw to |
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Name 1 NFL team that's had more receivers catch touchdown passes than the falcons.
You can't. There aren't any. |
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and thats probably because teams are always doubling/tripling julio which opens up the other receivers.
Without Julio the falcons are nothing. |
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What a joke. Julio's great and all but people give him too much credit. Matt Ryan is a top 5 QB with a decent enough O-Line. He'd be fine without Julio. |
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Flashback to the Falcons VS Eagles game
Julio Jones had 16 targets 10 receptions and 135 yards.
Taylor gabriel had the second highest targets with 5.
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Flashback to today:
Julio Jones 4 receptions 35 yards
Rest of the receinving core 200+ yards |
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Because having a superstar like Julio Jones on your team makes other players open |
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That's such a pathetic excuse.
Look at Matthew Stafford right now without Calvin Johnson. |
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@Ani
I live and die by GT football
Sorry but I'm only catching W's right now |
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hancock3Join Date: 2008-08-22
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if u think falcons would be better off without julio
get some help |
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"Nah falcons are a 9 win team without him"
flip that number horizontally and vertically and ur right
"Name 1 NFL team that's had more receivers catch touchdown passes than the falcons.
You can't. There aren't any."
i brought touchdowns up a while ago when discussing Giants and Falcons WRs and you dismissed that argument, but i guess now since they're relevant to your argument it's a valid point
also: name 1 NFL WR that's had more receiving yards than Julio this season. you can't. there aren't any.
"What a joke. Julio's great and all but people give him too much credit. Matt Ryan is a top 5 QB with a decent enough O-Line. He'd be fine without Julio."
Julio makes Ryan into a top 5 QB
"Julio Jones 4 receptions 35 yards
Rest of the receinving core 200+ yards"
what's the point of throwing to Patrick Peterson when there are other lesser corners covering perfectly capable other WRs
"Look at Matthew Stafford right now without Calvin Johnson."
the difference is Stafford has 4 good targets now, compared to 2 at the most when Calvin played. Ryan has 3 or 4 good targets already
if u aren't trolling i seriously question ur football knowledge |
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"if u think falcons would be better off without julio"
He didnt say they'd be better off without him
He said they would be just as good as they are now without Julio |
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"if u think falcons would be better off without julio
get some help"
I never said this |
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"flip that number horizontally and vertically and ur right"
nah I was right the first time
"i brought touchdowns up a while ago when discussing Giants and Falcons WRs and you dismissed that argument, but i guess now since they're relevant to your argument it's a valid point"
Idk what I was thinking then
Falcons WR's > Giant WR's
"also: name 1 NFL WR that's had more receiving yards than Julio this season. you can't. there aren't any."
I'm not saying he isn't great though.
I'm just saying the Falcons have several other good options to throw to
"Julio makes Ryan into a top 5 QB"
He'd be a top 5 QB without Julio.
"what's the point of throwing to Patrick Peterson when there are other lesser corners covering perfectly capable other WRs"
Exactly my point, Moldy is saying who else would Matt Ryan throw to without Julio
but like you said, Matt Ryan has other capabale receivers to throw to
"the difference is Stafford has 4 good targets now, compared to 2 at the most when Calvin played. Ryan has 3 or 4 good targets already"
matt ryan only had 1 good target last year
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Dalt2306Join Date: 2011-09-14
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This post makes you lose brain cells. |
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my internet is cancer
"nah I was right the first time"
they struggle to consistently get 9 with him, what makes you think they'll get 9 without him?
"I'm not saying he isn't great though.
I'm just saying the Falcons have several other good options to throw to"
Julio gives them opportunities to get open. they're good options, but would be nowhere near as effective without having the defense heavily focus on Julio like they do
"He'd be a top 5 QB without Julio."
he struggles to consistently look like a top 5 QB with Julio, what makes you think he'll be/look like a top 5 QB without him?
"Exactly my point, Moldy is saying who else would Matt Ryan throw to without Julio
but like you said, Matt Ryan has other capabale receivers to throw to"
Julio gives them opportunities to get open. they're good options, but would be nowhere near as effective without having the defense heavily focus on Julio like they do
"matt ryan only had 1 good target last year"
Tamme, Freeman, Roddy not good targets? he struggled last year with Julio, just imagine how he would have done without him O_O |
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"they struggle to consistently get 9 with him, what makes you think they'll get 9 without him?"
mainly because of the defense, and o line though.
"Julio gives them opportunities to get open. they're good options, but would be nowhere near as effective without having the defense heavily focus on Julio like they do"
They'd be fine without him. Harry Douglass had a 1,000 yard season the one year Julio was hurt. What has he done since?
"he struggles to consistently look like a top 5 QB with Julio, what makes you think he'll be/look like a top 5 QB without him?"
he struggled last year because our center hadn't played the center position since middle school.
He's looked like a top 5 QB every other year since 2010
"Julio gives them opportunities to get open. they're good options, but would be nowhere near as effective without having the defense heavily focus on Julio like they do"
reference to the harry douglass point.
"Tamme, Freeman, Roddy not good targets? he struggled last year with Julio, just imagine how he would have done without him O_O"
did you seriously include roddy with the way he played last year????
he struggled last year because of the center
the falcons would be a 5 win team without Julio Jones AND Matt Ryan.
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"mainly because of the defense, and o line though."
the defense is almost just as bad. PFF ranked the Falcons' O-Line the 4th best at the end of last season so clearly they couldn't be as bad as you're making them out to be lol
"They'd be fine without him. Harry Douglass had a 1,000 yard season the one year Julio was hurt. What has he done since?'
OH RIGHT, THE FALCONS WENT 3-9 WITHOUT JULIO... 𝑊𝐻𝐴𝑇 𝐴 𝑆𝐻𝑂𝐶𝐾𝐸𝑅! 𝑎𝑛𝑦 #1 𝑜𝑟 #2 WR can get 1k yards when your QB throws it 651 TIMES...
"he struggled last year because our center hadn't played the center position since middle school.
He's looked like a top 5 QB every other year since 2010"
are we looking at the same stats? the only season where he was a top 5 QB statistically was 2012.... MAYBE 2014
"did you seriously include roddy with the way he played last year????
he struggled last year because of the center"
you can't possibly place all of the struggles on the center... and what's Roddy supposed to do when his role was clearly reduced lol? maybe his production didn't appear on the stat sheet, but he clearly didn't get enough opportunities. (hard to do much when you got a WR across from you getting 200 targets)
"the falcons would be a 5 win team without Julio Jones AND Matt Ryan."
no, they'd be a 2 win team |
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