OpticInsight
#118799866Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:26 AM GMT

Support.
gordonrox24
#118799948Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:28 AM GMT

I think the price floor was to high, but after it was lowered I'm a more content with it. So sure, it will take you 10 days to purchase an item. That's only if your only source of income is daily login. So, not only has the price floor created higher profit for people who make clothes, it will, in theory, slowly raise the quality of popular clothes. And I think a final hidden benefit is that it creates a massive incentive for people who only earn money through logging in to become more involved in ROBLOX. It creates incentive for them to try and create a good place, or to try and create and sell clothing, or to learn how to use the TC. Sure, you can wait 20 days to buy your outfit, or you can learn how to actually play and use ROBLOX to earn money.
OpticInsight
#118800100Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:30 AM GMT

They should add a like button to forum comments :3
jesussavessatansells
#118800132Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:30 AM GMT

No, there is no excuse. Groups have to suffer because the poor people can't buy the uniform. Sure SOME people get rewarded, but in return you've created a huge hassle for many people and all clans. You aren't encouraging anyone to use the TC because nobody is going to do it. Most kids on ROBLOX aren't even smart enough to use proper grammar, they aren't gonna use the TC. It's still too high. 25 tickets is really the highest it should even be. But that is once again a halfway solution to a problem that you guys have created. The better solution would be to remove it completely.
DividedFallout
#118800152Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:30 AM GMT

Decrease it a great deal to where it was, or just remove it all together. You make your employee's money from now people PAYING to play games. But wait a minute, isn't the slogan for ROBLOX "Play for free on ROBLOX.com". - That tells me that not only have you guys mislead tons and tons of people across the nation and world that we can play for free, when there are certain games we cannot. If people want to get money from their games, they use VIP passes and game passes and tickets they get from people joining all together. I can be wrong that the prices of when people buy clothing earn your employee's money, but regardless of the ROBLOX market, the price floor HAS to be changed back down to what it was a year ago, or take it away entirely. Animations are an "eh" for me at the moment, its just those certain hiccups the system has when you guys change the animations. Don't get me wrong, I know you all try your hardest to please your customers and users of ROBLOX, but doing things like this any mostly not acknowledging what the users say I find not very...good..
jesussavessatansells
#118800299Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:33 AM GMT

Gordan, I'm a reasonable guy. Everything you guys have done has been okay and in favor for the players. I'm not gonna complain about BC only places or something stupid like that because that's just being picky and being a brat. But I'm sure you're a reasonable guy. Even you can see that the price floor is total BS.
DividedFallout
#118800355Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:33 AM GMT

Jacob is right too. People can't join clans because the leaders or high ranks won't allow them to be apart of the clan because they don't have a full set of a UNIFORM. And where do the uniforms come from? MONEY. And where does the money come from? DAILY LOGIN FOR NON BC USERS. Moral of the story: UNFAIR FOR NBC'ers and for the people who don't have 5,000 tickets or robux to throw away.
Breakwall
#118800564Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:36 AM GMT

True Ihas, If anything lower it for clans. So people can actually afford the uniforms. And sure the price floor is annoying. But most of us have found ways around it. Like scripts in game. That gives the player the group uniform.
DividedFallout
#118800577Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:37 AM GMT

Look, I try to use logic. Its things like BC places only and the other things Jacob mentioned I understand and don't get frustrated about. However its the things like price floor raises and such that kind of agitate me.. I'm a reasonable person, I am well sure of that you are too..
DividedFallout
#118800701Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:38 AM GMT

But Escape, what about the people that don't have that type of potential. Like scripting or building magnificent games people like StickMasterLuke can make, or other famous builders in ROBLOX. I'm talking for that percentage of people that don't have the sort of advantage others do to obtain profit or money.
gordonrox24
#118800704Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:38 AM GMT

I think what you guys are saying is that we've got people who are unwilling to use the tools at their disposal to make money, and that we should change things to help them when they aren't even willing to help themselves. That seems massively one sided.
Breakwall
#118800861Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:41 AM GMT

Actually Ihas, many people have made the script that does that feature a "free model" so the people of ROBLOX can use it. Plus with a "Read Me" script I don't think it's that hard.
jesussavessatansells
#118800967Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:42 AM GMT

Oh my god. You're not even listening. People want to sell uniforms at a mass scale for their clan. Most of the little kids on this game are too stupid and lazy to use the TC. We want everyone to be able to buy a uniform without having to sit at the TC for hours. "But that's the kids fault that they aren't using the tools" We come here to have fun. That's the main goal. You wanna blame us and the stupidity and laziness of the kids and that it's completely one sided? Quit advertising this as a kids game then.
3Dwolf11
#118800972Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:42 AM GMT

Gorden sir, one thing with the price floor. It truly is unreasonably high. You did state that ROBLOX should add the idea of asking if an update would be fine. Wasn't that idea due since the entire start? I believe so. ROBLOX became so big because of the ability to play games you loved, go through the economy and be famous for the things to make. The economy part, was wonderful and within the blog, a famous seller stated, and got in the blog for it, that he just wanted people to wear his clothing he created. If I were to make a clothing peice, I would rather want people to enjoy what I've created than earn money from it. Sure the currency you earn is great but before the price floor sellers could already sell their clothing for the price they wanted to. This price floor was majorly unnecicary. I myself, am negative is most of my cases. So most likly i'm going to write something long and negative. Sorry.
DividedFallout
#118800996Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:42 AM GMT

Well...no...not exactly. We all know that the price floor is up there and high for some members. Now let's keep that in our minds. Scripters: Smart intellectual people whom know how to build and mesh and whatnot. Builders: Advantage to create big and nice games. But even more of an advantage with being a scripter. What I'm proposing is that nothing has to change in those areas, but the price floor in ITSELF has to change. Especially for clan members whom like to join clans but don't have BC. They come on everyday waiting for their tickets and/or robux to hit the right amount to buy a full set of uniforms. But what happens next? They become broke and don't have enough to buy anything else they like of clothing wise. I do hope you know where I am going at this..I am trying my best to be as specific as I can with you, my good Sir.
SeanSeverloh
#118801250Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:46 AM GMT

Support some of the stuff here. But i like the new textures, except the new plastic.
HMCharlesIV
#118801611Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:52 AM GMT

Agreed this is true roblox update's are crazy and i barely like them i don't get why they do this.They think they become more famous by doing this? Lol no they are wrong. They should start using there mind for once.
Vathriel
#118801660Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:53 AM GMT

In order to push suggestions forward onto the Roblox admins, and to hopefully get more feed back into the Roblox system for updates, I have released a new forum hoping to get people inspired to be positive, to help boost people into getting involved with our Roblox community. http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=118801286
gordonrox24
#118801675Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:53 AM GMT

I think my main point is that your daily login bonus is exactly that, just a bonus. It shouldn't be your sole source of income, and I think the price floor incentives people to learn how to be an active ROBLOXian. I don't think it would be a bad idea to allow groups to sell cheap items in their group stores
jesussavessatansells
#118801809Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:55 AM GMT

I think my main point is that your daily login bonus is exactly that, just a bonus. It shouldn't be your sole source of income, and I think the price floor incentives people to learn how to be an active ROBLOXian." This isn't going to encourage anybody to do that though. It's just going to make people angry. No amount of pushing people through bad updates is going to make that happen either, people play the game how they wanna play it and that's the way it's always going to be. "I don't think it would be a bad idea to allow groups to sell cheap items in their group stores" Then suggest it. Make it happen. I'd be happy and proud of you as an Administrator and a human being.
Breakwall
#118801852Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:56 AM GMT

I agree with the allow groups to sell cheaper items, due to the fact. Groups can't spend the money earned on anything. Other than ad's and ranks.
jesussavessatansells
#118802010Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:59 AM GMT

Also Gordon, instead of TAKING AWAY from the community to encourage them to buy BC, a much better update would be to give them something that is worth while with the purchase of BC. I feel like THAT is how you run a company and get respect. Not through Price floors. Because I know for a fact that the main reason it was applied is not to help the shirt makers profit, but to help you profit. And that's completely fine. You're a company and you need your money. But you can only push the community to a certain point before you guys end up looking like this.
gordonrox24
#118802367Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:05 AM GMT

The price floor does help BC members. What we've seen is that outfit creators (Who are BC members) have seen their profits increase. In his message to the community, David Baszucki outlined how some creators saw an increase of 3x in profit. I think 3x more profit makes BC very worthwhile.
jesussavessatansells
#118802536Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:07 AM GMT

While that is true, screwing over all the NBC'ers and all groups isn't the best way to accomplish this. I think that removing price floors for clans would actually solve a lot of this. And sometimes I get a little mean and aggressive, but it's only because I've been playing this game for around five years since 2007. If you look up my old account on the forums as 'Jacobdg' that's proof enough. I care about this game and I just want to continue enjoying it and see it prosper. I apologize if I sounded rude at all.
gordonrox24
#118802680Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:10 AM GMT

Not at all, I really appreciate your passion. :)