Sonicjr723
#122859876Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:34 PM GMT

"Im not a judge" Nope. "Well im pretty sure in a rap battle The battlers are not the judges" They aren't unless there's an obvious winner. My verse is more lyrical than Sage's and I proved it. My verse is formed better than Sage's. My verse is better than Sage, and only someone biased or ignorant to rap would disagree. "I am biased/Ignorant and my opinion doesn't count?" That's right. "Says the one who wastes his life going on forum and posting things that took him hours to make" It didn't even take me an hour to make my verse, and that isn't wasting my life. There are 24 hours in a day. If I were to waste my whole life I would have to spend a whole day making a verse. It didn't even take an hour. This is easy for me. I battled Tokyo with a verse I made in 10 minutes. Time doesn't matter to me. I can make my verses as long as I want and be able to know about how long it will take. "Im biased? Are you stupid? I clearly wrote that you were both in need of a mental therapy session" "That was a good battle Winner:Sagenar" You are either biased or ignorant. You've never explained. "Explanations Things i have already given You have bad raps Thats all i have to say" How so? You can't explain how I have bad raps, you are just dismayed that I am arguing with you and asking for legitimate reasons to your opinion, which you cannot give. This is why your opinion is invalid. "Its simple Im trying to keep it simple" Keeping it simple is the reason my raps were misunderstood. "So that a child can understand it In this case you and sage." You're the most childish one on the thread right now, you take everything to heart. If you can't explain why I lost, then you don't count nor would you be a good judge. Stop using excuses to hide your asininity. "You say you are not a rapper Yet you post rhymes" So do poets. "Proves that your not good at it?" No, I'm not a rapper in real life. Pay attention. "Your not complaining? Look at your whole post" I'm not complaining, you have yet to comply with my demands and interrogations on why I have lost. You can't tell me why I lost because you are ignorant or biased, as i said. You just don't matter. If I was complaining you'd need legitimate, justified, reasonable explanations as to why I lost or had "bad raps" while Sage's are somehow better. "Restate that statement Come up with the right answer" Excuse me? "That you are Sage is rapping through this criticism" I don't care about what Sage is doing, Sage doesn't care if his raps are shoved aside because his raps are simplistic and easy to understand. You are unable of even explaining how I am so bad. "Your both autists," How so? "You reply with an essay He replies with a rap" More like my verses are longer than his and spaced out so you assume it's an essay. Rap is rap. It doesn't matter how long it is. Where I'm from that rap is child's play in length. It must be that you were too lazy to read it. Another reason why you should capitulate since your opinion is invalid. "Im pretty sure this thread was for battling" It's more of an exhibition match than a battle, and even battling my verse is better. If we assumed Sage has more insults than I do, that still wouldn't make him the winner. "Not crying a river of tears that wont stop flowing." That's why you aren't in this battle. "I didnt understand the line? I'm pretty sure i did, and it was pathetic." Explain it to me, then. "Why should i be bitter about your stupid posts when 1.Most of your raps are horrible" Yet you can't explain why. Ignorance and bias. "2.Most of your complaints are excessive and show a low amount of IQ, which the other contenders raps clearly stated." Yet you can't explain why, and somehow think Sage is better. "3.You wrote i must still be 8? I think you must have been mistaking me for your reflection in the mirror as you were typing this and as previously mentioned" That proves you are a child, that is one of the most childish responses in the book. You can do better. Or not, you are only a fool. "Sh[!]ttin bricks like you ate a cement truck" I was paying homage to Papoose. If you think that was such a bad rap then you really are ignorant, because Papoose is a real rapper. "4.How am I a hypocrite, im not even the one battling. Im stating Simple truth" Calling me a child when you are obviously a child makes you a hypocrite. "5.The reason why you chose the words "natural selection" is probably because you just learned it in class since your at most, in the 7th grade. But i sincerely doubt that. Must have checked on the internet for the definition" You act as if you need to be in school to become knowledgeable of such things. I've researched religion and basic theories before. It's not a big deal that I used this. That doesn't make it a bad rap, that was another good line using lyricism, you're picking at straws to find a way to insult me with it. Eminem: "Eenie-meenie-miney-mo, catch an eskimo by his toe" Hopsin: "I got balls like I'm Ash Ketchum" Kendrick put Katara from Avatar in his Backseat Freestyle video. Lupe Fiasco is known for joking. Using your foolish logic, these rappers are children when all of them are above 20? You have a dearth of rap knowledge. You shouldn't come onto these threads. "6.Rapping is not harrassing people online with childish rhymes" Didn't use any "childish rhymes". Read the above response. Are Eminem, Hopsin, Kendrick, Lupe, Childish Gambino, Nicki Minaj, etc also children? No, they are adults. The funny thing is I didn't even use anything childish in the above line yet you somehow tried to make it out as me being a 7th grader because I used the term natural selection. Old men use the term natural selection. It's not limited to age. "Look at Lupe Fiasco/Wacka Flocka/Mackelmore Are they dissing someone in their raps "No so before you tell me i know nothing about rap" SLR2 - Lupe Fiasco. Ice Cream - Wacka Flocka Flame Macklemore isn't a battle rapper, he's been dissed by more than one rapper. You really do have a dearth of rap knowledge. "You should check yourself And stop being an idiot. Period" More hypocrisy. "And here comes the complaints Quotation marks after every thing i have written" Quotes, yes. "Mhmm" Indeed. "You cant change my opinion" I don't need to, your opinion is of no matter when it comes to rap. "You can only reinforce your own With your own Stupidity" I can prove you wrong because you are unable to explain your opinions, and you know nothing about rap. Stop being a hypocrite. "I'm done" That's good, because if you weren't to concede you'd just be embarrassed even more. It must have been your bedtime. Farewell.
40gIock
#122861341Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:51 PM GMT

Just shut up already no one cares. No one is going to waste there time reading 10 paragraphs. Just drop the subject
Sonicjr723
#122862073Saturday, January 11, 2014 5:00 PM GMT

"Just shut up already no one cares. No one is going to waste there time reading 10 paragraphs. Just drop the subject" You just proved that you are biased. You are too lazy to read my rap so you just went down to your friend's and decided that he won. Your opinion is also invalid.
Sagenar
#122868018Saturday, January 11, 2014 6:06 PM GMT

Lol if your win was so obvious Then why do others think not? One more thing ngga Rappers do rap Non rappers dont do rap You said you aint a rapper So that means you suck at rap Simple logic LOL Gg But this battle is mine
Sonicjr723
#122877270Saturday, January 11, 2014 7:40 PM GMT

"Lol if your win was so obvious Then why do others think not?" Because they lack knowledge of rap. Why do they not explain why you won, yet Ntk (who cosigned you) and Sympathetic explained themselves what they thought about my lyricism? I posted explanations. Explain your raps then we can compare explanations as well. Yet no one will explain how you "won". Judges are supposed to be able to do such. Your friend in real life also tried to ease your situation, but he is biased. Everyone who believed I won has a reason to believe so, while everyone who believes you won is either biased or is ignorant to my raps. I've explained this already. "One more thing ngga Rappers do rap Non rappers dont do rap You said you aint a rapper So that means you suck at rap" No it doesn't, non *real* rappers don't do *real* rap. I am not a rapper within the real world, my profession is art. Not being a rapper doesn't make you suck at rap, either. Childish Gambino doesn't consider himself a rapper, yet he is good at rapping. Kanye West considers himself to be more than just a rapper, but he can rap. There are plenty of examples. Don't be foolish. "Simple logic" False logic. "LOL Gg" You admit defeat? Only reason I could see you saying "GG". "But this battle is mine" How so?
Sagenar
#122914984Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:48 AM GMT

It just is You say you won and its obvious Many people seem to think thats it not obvious so that means your not a judge Lol I might check up in this thread sometimes But this battle is over Gg no re The complaints Are about to rain You a popular rapper, even if you dont know how to rap There goes your MT reign LOL And i only know swanirl I dont know any of those other people Like forza/ducky/sephiroth
Yellowmonster264
#122916171Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:00 AM GMT

"Sage please just stop dude. You're embarrassing yourself big time. You think anyone thinks that mediocre trash is good? YOU may be autistic if you think it is, seriously, you suck horribly." "Cmon Sage, Your quantity over quality stunt aint working because his rap had both in it" "Sonic won" "Yeah, you actually can't contradict anything Sonic's saying right there. I'll let you know this now (reason why I said you shouldn't end "rounds" so quickly): The only way you'll actually have a shot is if you were to put as much QUALITY and QUANTITY as Sonic. So far, I haven't seen you do either. I hope you don't think Sonic really cares mostly about quantity. The guy puts a lot of quality into it too. Your verses are lyrical (I give my respect to you both for showing that real-rap skill), but his go beyond another level. I don't want these people to discourage you because this is a battle of great artists. I remember when I had a feud with TitanJr and we never had rounds. It was come on one day and spit lyricism, and then do the same the next. I'd like to see that here. Keep it going until it reaches the point for the real-rap fans to draw a conclusion. This can end up a great battle and I wouldn't want it to end so quickly." Lol bro, Ive seen the arguement going on And this is one thing that makes no sense LOL You said other people explained how you won Read the first 3 comments Your both stupid LOL ONly 1 dude explained anything And half of it wasnt even explanations He didnt even explain sages bad raps Plus, sage doesnt have people explaining either. Your both HUGE Hypocrites One more thing sonic I said this to NTK too Your want people to think about your raps Which means you want them to understand them Thats why you explained them Your dumb Here is the main reason why Your adding a white concept, into a black sport the black sport is rap The white concept Is Thought Your trying to make people do something they arnt used to And no one wants to waste their OWN time thinking about your raps When they have lifes to get to? Games to play? People to chat with? LOl And before you say im racist or something, just because of that comment Its not racism Its social biology Blacks are just made for somethings Quit being an arse. I believe im done here. And just to make you mad I will just say that sage won LOL
Yellowmonster264
#122916308Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:02 AM GMT

And dont bother replying It was one comment, and i dont want to waste my life arguing with you
Sonicjr723
#122917301Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:12 AM GMT

"It just is" You can't say "it just is" when you can't explain it. If you can't explain something, then you're just pulling at straws. "You say you won and its obvious Many people seem to think thats it not obvious" Because they are ignorant to rap. This is like asking a baby about his opinion on adult topics "so that means your not a judge" Yet I know about rap. "Lol I might check up in this thread sometimes But this battle is over" And you lost. "Gg" Glad you accept your loss. "no re" *Re* "The complaints Are about to rain" Not complaints. "You a popular rapper, even if you dont know how to rap" I'm not popular. You say I don't know how to rap when I just demonstrated how to be a lyricist in one easy verse, then topped it off with an easier one and both were better than your disses? Your opinion is invalid, you're biased. "There goes your MT reign" Never cared to reign over MT rappers, I knew making this thread I could make you look like a baby reciting Dr. Seuss lines and I did. "LOL And i only know swanirl" Exactly, bias. "I dont know any of those other people" And? "Like forza" When did he say I lost, and if he did what does he know about rap? "/ducky" Same as above. "/sephiroth" Can't even explain his opinion yet comes in saying you won. His opinion is therefor void. " Lol bro, Ive seen the arguement going on And this is one thing that makes no sense LOL You said other people explained how you won" Ntk and Symp acknowledged my lyricism, and they are able to explain why I won if you would like. "Read the first 3 comments" I never said Cyber and Tokyo explained. "Your both stupid LOL" Hypocrisy, much? "ONly 1 dude explained anything And half of it wasnt even explanations He didnt even explain sages bad raps" Explain Sage's and compare it to mine. Dinosaur vs ant. "Plus, sage doesnt have people explaining either. Your both HUGE Hypocrites" My raps were already explained, people can already cosign my raps because they know I use lyricism. Explaining why sage is better than me is impossible because he isn't. "One more thing sonic I said this to NTK too Your want people to think about your raps Which means you want them to understand them Thats why you explained them" Even if you don't dig deep, most of them are easy to get unless you're a complete imbecile. "Your dumb" Hypocrisy (again). "Here is the main reason why Your adding a white concept, into a black sport the black sport is rap The white concept Is Thought" There are TONS of black lyricists, white people didn't invent lyricism in rap. Just because there are a lot of trap rappers doesn't mean trap rappers are all that are present in rap. Don't be ignorant. Not all black people are ignorant to lyricism. Even the current Lil Wayne implements lyricism into his raps. "Your trying to make people do something they arnt used to" What, think? You don't have to think to understand synonyms, antonyms, and h0m0nyms. They're things you learn early in school. "And no one wants to waste their OWN time thinking about your raps" There were more simple lines that still beat Sage's rap. "When they have lifes to get to? Games to play? People to chat with? LOl" Then they shouldn't judge. Nobody asked them to sit here and read this battle, nor does it take long to pick up on. I posted an explanations thread. Stop being asinine. "And before you say im racist or something, just because of that comment Its not racism Its social biology" You're a fool. It's not racist, just an ignorant mentality. "Blacks are just made for somethings" Explain the black people in every other business then, and explain why so many rappers don't even choose to be rappers, and why there are black, white, hispanic, etc. in the rap business? You are a true imbecile. "Quit being an arse." Quit being stupid on purpose. "I believe im done here." Good for you. "And just to make you mad I will just say that sage won LOL" I'm not angry, you can't explain why Sage won and you, too, are posting it in spite of me (as you admitted). "And dont bother replying It was one comment, and i dont want to waste my life arguing with you" I replied. Are you going to cry me an ocean? If you don't want to argue, leave. Good riddance, fool.
ntkEzio654
#123000618Sunday, January 12, 2014 10:46 PM GMT

What the hell is going on? I expected the 2nd or 3rd page to be Sage and sonic going at it. Now, I'm seeing stupid arguments that aren't needed. If you guys want to end "round 1" with those 2 verses, then Sonic won. Me and yellow already went over his naive concept. He didn't even know what lyricism was until I explained it to him. Sonic won becuase he is a greater lyricist than Sage. Just compare their verses. IF you really think Sage is as lyrical, then you should at least realize that he is lacking in quantity. These foolish conspiracies are a waste of time. This is based on skill and you people should just let them go at it. Don't post opinions if you don't have the relavent words to back them up. Sonic, I know you love contradicting the ignorant, but it's pointless. That's a reason why I try not to reply to them. Respond only to the Real-Rap fans, and just keep doing you. The people just want to run their mouth. Just keep posting your lyrics and save what you have to say till the end of the battle.
ntkEzio654
#123001929Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:00 PM GMT

And Symp still isn't much of a Real-Rap fan. She didn't know what lyricism was until I came to this forum. I doubt you've seen me actually try, especially with the lack of competition. You can't say who can lyrically father anybody if you can barely judge lyricism itself.
DrAwsomeMonkey
#123002161Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:02 PM GMT

ntk do you like kanye west
ntkEzio654
#123002574Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:06 PM GMT

-_- I hate when you guys just ask random questions that have nothing to do with the topic. Still pure to my answers so I'll keep on telling you how I feel, even though you'll probably try to make a point out of it. Yeah, I liked Kanye back then, but he dosen't appeal to me now with such corruption. He's still a great lyricist, but I just don't listen to him.
40gIock
#123018246Monday, January 13, 2014 1:54 AM GMT

ntk sonic is a TERRIBLE rapper. This is a rap battle and he has 0 insults first. And sage doesn't need quantity. quality is better. Sonic can just keep rambling about his low quality raps but its not going to win this battle :3
Sonicjr723
#123018525Monday, January 13, 2014 1:56 AM GMT

There were insults, you just didn't read the explanations. You're his friend in real life, apparently, so you're just biased. You'd probably say he beat anyone if they were in the same situation. Just go find something else to do if all you are going to do is be one sided.
40gIock
#123019238Monday, January 13, 2014 2:03 AM GMT

Lol in a real rap battle people are suppose to know what you mean. not suppose to explain it idiot. That proves no one understand your autistic raps. And besides not my friend. Brother. Control that mental illness of yours.
Yellowmonster264
#123020666Monday, January 13, 2014 2:17 AM GMT

Lol Ntk I might not know what lyricism is But i know what a life is Which is much better Anyway, i dont care about your battle anyway. But I have to tell sonic something I dont think you noticed, but NTK is simply scheming LOL He told me that he was hated on ro rap Never heard of this child before But He says your a very good rapper The only reason he is saying that is because your more popular then Sage And he wants a popular person to support him When it comes for his time to battle. he told me he had 30 wins, 0 losses And that he judged those battles himself. Um, Lol Im pretty sure you are not supposed to judge 30 battles By yourself. Fake wins I believe so... Now sonic, you think this assassin's creed character has your back. But he simply is using you He even said that you and sage are very good rappers But that he was so good, that you guys look average compared to him And that he is the best ro rapper and that he is infamous. Self proclaimed if you ask me Now that i have just told you that, Lets see if you completely agree with his mindset
Yellowmonster264
#123026697Monday, January 13, 2014 3:19 AM GMT

And another thing i have to ask you sonic Do you think your better then ERB Answer yes or no Lol i thought this was a rap battle. More like a political debate
Sonicjr723
#123028564Monday, January 13, 2014 3:38 AM GMT

"Lol in a real rap battle people are suppose to know what you mean. not suppose to explain it idiot." This proves you know nothing about rap. "That proves no one understand your autistic raps." Because you can't understand even the simple raps they are autistic? "And besides not my friend. Brother. Control that mental illness of yours." Exactly why you are a hypocrite, you are obviously biased. "Lol Ntk I might not know what lyricism is But i know what a life is Which is much better" Lyricism =/= no life. "Anyway, i dont care about your battle anyway." Then don't make a void opinion about it. "But I have to tell sonic something" Oh, I thought you were done posting? "I dont think you noticed, but NTK is simply scheming LOL He told me that he was hated on ro rap" Popularity has nothing to do with lyricism. "Never heard of this child before But" Anyone who you disagree with is a child? "He says your a very good rapper" He is wise, then. "The only reason he is saying that is because your more popular then Sage" What? I'm not popular at all. I'm not even a regular on this forum. What the hell are you prattling about? "And he wants a popular person to support him When it comes for his time to battle." You are incorrect. "he told me he had 30 wins, 0 losses And that he judged those battles himself." I wouldn't be surprised, most of the "rappers" around here are garbage. "Um, Lol Im pretty sure you are not supposed to judge 30 battles By yourself." Unless they are obvious, then he isn't exactly judging them. "Fake wins I believe so..." Link me to his battle. "Now sonic, you think this assassin's creed character has your back." I don't care if he "has my back" or not, Ntk and I are not friends. We barely know eachother. I've only met him in game prior to here (I will not discuss this). "But he simply is using you" He can't use me. If Ntk is ever outdone by someone in battle then I will judge it as such, I am not biased. I've judged many rap battles on my former site. "He even said that you and sage are very good rappers But that he was so good, that you guys look average compared to him" When did he say that? I'm pretty sure he actually compared me to himself in a positive manner on the 2nd page. "And that he is the best ro rapper and that he is infamous." I'm not a ro rapper anyways. "Self proclaimed if you ask me" He is better than most of the "rappers" I have witnessed on this subforum. "Now that i have just told you that, Lets see if you completely agree with his mindset" Do you really think I am this simple minded? "And another thing i have to ask you sonic Do you think your better then ERB Answer yes or no" Lyrically? Yes. Why is that such a shocking thing? ERB has very corny and basic raps, but they are good at promotion and the concept they made was good. A friend I know from the other site (Meta C is his rap name) is also better. As I said, popularity doesn't make you lyrical. This isn't to say that ERB can't rap, I don't know how well they can rap. However, if you know anything about the term "target demographic" then it isn't a mystery why their raps would be basic. "Lol i thought this was a rap battle. More like a political debate" You all made it a debate by claiming someone won without having reasonable explanations.
ntkEzio654
#123028734Monday, January 13, 2014 3:40 AM GMT

@Swan, Sonic has both quantity and quality. You people should read to understand more of the message. Just because a rap may not have as much insults (even though it did have insults) that dosen't mean it's not good. Don't look at complexity as a bad thing or else Sonic is just going to INSULT you as somebody stupid. Btw, you complimented by saying he has a mental illness. @Yellow, So you're telling me that I have no life for enjoying Real-Rap/Lyricism? I've been listening to Rap since I was a little kid. I'm not interested in mainstream fans who don't know nothing about it. Applying irrelvant concepts to someone who has more of a life than you. Another reason why I'm quitting. I don't need any "support" from anyone. Who said Sonic was supporting me? I support Real-Rap period. Why the hell would I battle to judge them myself? The crowd judges my battles, even if most of them don't even know the slightest of what Rap really is. I'm 30-1. I never said that Sonic is average compared to me. I don't think you read the part where I said that he is on my level. I am infamous for my hate. I don't give a damn. YOU people have made this a debate more than a battle, and that's why I'm confused. I want to see lyrics going at it, not stupid arguments.
ntkEzio654
#123029192Monday, January 13, 2014 3:45 AM GMT

Great minds think alike.
Sagenar
#123073424Monday, January 13, 2014 11:16 PM GMT

Great minds think alike? You must be talking about me and swan then. ive been waiting days for his round 3 lyrics, but sonic is clearly wasting my time. Im not going to wait another week for your raps. Sucks for you im an impatient person as so previously mentioned in your first post. Im done with this thread, since i already won. So gg, but i dont have much left to say to this hedgehog. Cyall 1-0 Sage Forum wins. In fact, i did understand his raps, but mine are easier to understand AND they are good His were complicated, and no one wants to think about the raps, i mean seriously, swan was right In a real life battle no one would sit there thinking about your raps. Anyway i won so theres no point to continueing this thread when you only have 1 actual guy behind your back. I have at least 2 soooo. gg
tokyodrift7
#123073569Monday, January 13, 2014 11:17 PM GMT

So because yours are easier to understand - they are better? GG This isn't real life so...
Sonicjr723
#123085245Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:30 AM GMT

"Great minds think alike? You must be talking about me and swan then. ive been waiting days for his round 3 lyrics, but sonic is clearly wasting my time." You haven't posted yours. Posting two raps for round 2 is still round 2. "Im not going to wait another week for your raps. Sucks for you im an impatient person as so previously mentioned in your first post." You've been stalling, post your round 3. "Im done with this thread, since i already won." I had more people who thought I won, and I had an obvious win. You lost. Stop trying to cop out. "So gg, but i dont have much left to say to this hedgehog. Cyall" Quitting? A default win as well for I, it seems. "1-0 Sage Forum wins." You lost. "In fact, i did understand his raps, but mine are easier to understand AND they are good" Being easier to understand just makes you worse lyrically, and your raps aren't good. "His were complicated, and no one wants to think about the raps, i mean seriously, swan was right In a real life battle no one would sit there thinking about your raps." Yes they would, if they were rap artists. Swan knows nothing about rap and was on your side to begin with. Not even all of my raps were complicated, people are just fools. "Anyway i won so theres no point to continueing this thread when you only have 1 actual guy behind your back. I have at least 2 soooo. gg" You lost, and around 5 people said that I won: Cybertro Tokyo Toby Ntk Symp. You lose in that aspect as well. "GG".
Sagenar
#123086526Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:43 AM GMT

Are you dumb? i already did round 3 raps, look at my most recent rap paragraph/ Gg win