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Superdestructo09
#135742740Sunday, June 01, 2014 10:48 PM GMT

Swearing is currently against ROBLOX rules. This is a kids site, and they don't want kids getting any ideas, of course. Therefore, to allow some liberties for older players, they have implemented a really buggy, really annoying censor which filters out words using the hashtag symbol instead of the classic asterisk (# as opposed to * for the uninitiated).Sometimes someone will say something non-vulgar and it will come out as a string of hashtags, which I have heard from other ROBLOXians is irritating to the eyes (how this is I have yet to discover). As such, I would like to propose a solution that does not only appeal to the devs, but to the mods, older players, newer players, and just about everyone. My suggestion is... stop moderating swearing. Many of you at this very moment are fingering for the reply button, but before you do that I urge you to read the rest of this thread. Yes, halting the moderation on swearing in the gist of my idea, but there are many more parts that make up this restructuring of ROBLOX's take on swearing (NOTE: I am using the word "swearing" so much to avoid using the words "cursing" or "cussing", as these words are stupid generalizations of what I am talking about). For instance, many of you will say, "But ROBLOX will lose its 'TRUSTe' award!" For the uninitiated, the TRUSTe award is given when the recipient is proven "kid-friendly". That's why I'm going to steal a page from a troll thread, of all threads. This is an excerpt: "Ok so like one thing made thst replaced swesr words with something like cote ball rock" If you understand troll, you can see the suggestion is a filter, different from the hashtags, that, instead of removing the offending words, replaces them with non-vulgar words. This would erase any hint that the person swore at all, which would prevent kids from learning such words. Offending words should also have several "filter" words that go with it, to vary the coverage so that people don't catch on. This filter would be used for players under 13 years of age. That is Stage 1 of a 3-stage reform. Next, Stage 2; the classic asterisk censor we all know and love. This would be used for 13+ players, and would function like every single censor ever. 'Nuff said, you're probably wondering what Stage 3 is. Stage 3 is the most controversial part of this reform; open swearing. Basically, Stage 2 is toggle-able. You can turn it on and off. When off, you can see swear words as clear as day. Nothing much to add. Now to explain how this all works. Basically, everyone can swear now, even those under 13, BUT others under 13 who cannot see the words cannot repeat them if they do not know them. Those above 13 who chose not to swear are spared massive strings of slurs and swears by the classic censor, and those who want to know who the potty-mouths really are will be appeased. The stage you are currently in can be changed via the same method that you gain the ability to freely talk from; e-mail verification. If you want to change what type of filter you have, you must use e-mail verification to change it, as to prevent nosy kids from switching the filter off. Lastly, let me discuss something that this suggestion will affect that I really didn't go over throughout this thread; moderation. Yes, moderators will no longer have to root out swearers, and sift through reports of "omg he said ____". They instead can focus on things that really matter, such as exploiters, those who ask for other's info, and the likes. To add, tons of those who complain they were "unfairly banned" for swearing, "even though they didn't", will be liberated and no complaints will ever touch the forums ever again. Now, to debunk major arguments. "Kids will lie about their age." - If they lie about their age, they are probably old enough to know swear words already, so this isn't that big of a deal. Plus, with everyone being able to swear, what's the incentive? To be able to see swear words? Let me remind you that they have to have e-mail verification to turn the filter off, therefore meaning that if they use their parents' e-mail for verification, they will probably grab hold of it and punish the kid if they do not want them turning off the filter. "Kids will use their own e-mail address." It's highly unlikely one under 13 has their own e-mail address, and, again, one that smart would probably know about swear words already. Plus, remember, incentive. "ROBLOX will lose its TRUSTe award!" - Read the thread and learn more about Stage 1 of the reform. "What about inappropriate content?" - This is a suggestion to reform USER swearing, not content swearing. Therefore, swearing in content will still be deemed against the rules until ROBLOX or someone on this forum comes up with a way to reform it. Any other questions? Please support!
tecno15
#135743473Sunday, June 01, 2014 10:56 PM GMT

Support.
obiwan3932
#135746197Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:28 PM GMT

This is kind of WNTS.But in a way i'ts not at the same time.
NotYetPanda
#135746377Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:30 PM GMT

tl;dr "Many of you at this very moment are fingering the reply button" I loled
ayj
#135746671Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:33 PM GMT

No support Why: For a game that wants to take itself seriously with a brick building game for kids, I kinda think that being "edgy" and swearing in this game is rather stupid.
popgoetheweasle
#135746719Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:33 PM GMT

Support, I'm sick of seeing those hashtags everywhere.
CSordyl
#135747538Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:43 PM GMT

I kinda don't support. Last time a kids game tried be edgy, we got Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06 -I used to be marblemaster/da1andonlyrealsonic/greenhillkiller. Then I took a banahmmer to the face. Three times.-
ayj
#135747771Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:45 PM GMT

@CSordyl OMG YES! You're seeing it just like I am!
LittleL0L
#135747796Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:46 PM GMT

"Many of you at this very moment are fingering the reply button" LMAO!
Robloxian2457
#135749812Monday, June 02, 2014 12:08 AM GMT

Support. But I still worry about kids who lie about their age, I do not want them learning them and using them in public.
pyvz
#135750323Monday, June 02, 2014 12:13 AM GMT

Support. Swearing can lead to a bad future for the Roblox community, and our goal is to stop swearing.
Lem0nzz
#135750818Monday, June 02, 2014 12:19 AM GMT

Why not allow it for people over the age, and have it censored for people under the age?
Superdestructo09
#135751876Monday, June 02, 2014 12:29 AM GMT

@"edgy" argument; This game is actually pretty edgy already, and I don't think this would add anything to that edginess. Think of your favorite game, and think; in that game, how many ways can you kill another player? @Lem0nzz; In case the 13+ kid's parents were over-religious or something.
redsnuffet
#135751899Monday, June 02, 2014 12:30 AM GMT

No support. Why do you need swearing in a kids game? If you want to swear, go somewhere more appropriate for that, because this game is designed for kids, and it shouldn't be changed because some '13' year olds wanted to talk 'freely'. Think about it, you're in a room full of kindergarteners. Would you start freely swearing even though they're young and simple-minded? No, because they shouldn't have to be edged to teenagers swearing when their parents are watching. Honestly, even me with an age above 13, I wouldn't want my parents seeing me playing a so-called 'Kids game' to see teenagers/kids who find loopholes to be swearing at each other. I don't want to play in a community where their main concern is swearing. Seriously, what do you want this to be, every COD game in multiplayer with your headphones on? Come on, be mature. Why do we need swearing when we can be mature teenagers and swear where its appropriate? Think a little bit cleaner, please. scary bottles are scary
Superdestructo09
#135755047Monday, June 02, 2014 1:05 AM GMT

@Michelle; You obviously did not read Stage 1. I don't think you even read the entire thread.
CSordyl
#135755337Monday, June 02, 2014 1:08 AM GMT

ROBLOX isn't a game. It's MANY games. Some are clearly more edgy than others, but not "DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN" edgy. -I used to be greenhillkiller/marblemaster/da1andonlyrealsonic. Then I took a banhammer to the face.-
RealSteveAustin
#135755760Monday, June 02, 2014 1:13 AM GMT

Support,but it's extremely unlikely this will happen. Emos are idiots
thechubbymonkey
#135756083Monday, June 02, 2014 1:16 AM GMT

I really don't like people swearing in roblox games. It's just not cool.
CSordyl
#135756655Monday, June 02, 2014 1:22 AM GMT

Even then swearing doesn't make it more edgy, it just makes the community even more childish -I used to be greenhillkiller/marblemaster/da1andonlyrealsonic. Then I took a banhammer to the face.-
Superdestructo09
#135757431Monday, June 02, 2014 1:31 AM GMT

Well then you'd like the Stage 1 filter, because then you couldn't tell they were swearing.
Lem0nzz
#135770447Monday, June 02, 2014 3:57 AM GMT

It's a habit you don't need to write a whole article about how you don't like it. It just comes out of your mouth inrl, or on a online game. Stop trying to get rid of it.
lottery248
#135773080Monday, June 02, 2014 4:36 AM GMT

WNTS (possible) but support
0Reborn0
#135774255Monday, June 02, 2014 4:54 AM GMT

Let's be honest here... This won't work at all. Besides, I'd rather see hashtags than stupid children running around screaming every swear word known to man. This is ROBLOX, not Call of Duty. No support.
0Reborn0
#135774322Monday, June 02, 2014 4:55 AM GMT

Also, WNTS. This is saying "Remove a huge update" which the hashtagging is, since it's the chat system.
Chibtrio
#135779390Monday, June 02, 2014 6:44 AM GMT

The main problem with the filtering system is normal words end up getting filtered, so you could see a player say "I #### your outfit!" So what did they say? Like? Hate? You'd have no idea.

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