ThoraeJoin Date: 2008-10-17
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So what if we are in debt? That's Obama's fault and it wouldn't matter if we went to war.
Well, seriously now. If I spend 10 times more than you on chocolate bars, I have more chocolate bars than you. If USA spends more than Russia on jets, USA has more jets. You understand
Since you didn't bother to say anything more than "incorrect", I won't bother either.
Actually, Russia and China are considered 'powers'. NOT superpowers. Look it up for once. USA is the only superpower, but there are powers.
Honestly, do you think it will matter how much space you have? It will all get destroyed. And no no no no, China would NEVER fight USA. It would be literal economic suicide for them. Who would China sell their products to if all of NATO and Australia, Japan, etc. stopped buying? It would never happen.
Really? Uranium reserves do not matter. Both countries would likely be obliterated completely. You aren't going to have time to make more bombs.
The debt is irrelevant. Again, if I spend a trillion dollars on jets and Russia spends 500 billion, who has more jets?
Yes, NATO has to fight. It was an agreement. They HAD to help us on September 11, and they WILL help us if any member nation is ever attacked. Look it up please. |
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ThoraeJoin Date: 2008-10-17
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I'd also like to point out that USA is the most politically stable country in the world. |
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FaltalisJoin Date: 2008-02-10
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."So what if we are in debt? That's Obama's fault and it wouldn't matter if we went to war."
Do I care about your president? That's a bonus for Russia if you have a bad president.
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"Well, seriously now. If I spend 10 times more than you on chocolate bars, I have more chocolate bars than you. If USA spends more than Russia on jets, USA has more jets. You understand."
When you said spending more money on technology I assumed you ment research. But in response to your comment. Russia can mass produce jets of still very high quality much faster and cheaper than you.
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"Since you didn't bother to say anything more than "incorrect", I won't bother either. "
Excellent, you've learned your fault of information from your question then I asume.
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"Actually, Russia and China are considered 'powers'. NOT superpowers. Look it up for once. USA is the only superpower, but there are powers."
Guess who's calling USA a superpower. The USA.
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"Honestly, do you think it will matter how much space you have? It will all get destroyed. And no no no no, China would NEVER fight USA. It would be literal economic suicide for them. Who would China sell their products to if all of NATO and Australia, Japan, etc. stopped buying? It would never happen."
You have much faith in your so called allies. Do you really believe that the public of those countries would want to support the Americans in there war? No because national rep for America is bad.
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"Really? Uranium reserves do not matter. Both countries would likely be obliterated completely. You aren't going to have time to make more bombs."
I guess that would sorta be true, but they still have more reasources and will make many, many nukes before the start of the war.
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"The debt is irrelevant. Again, if I spend a trillion dollars on jets and Russia spends 500 billion, who has more jets?"
Russia cause they'll do the same. Do you think that they wouldn't spend the same amount of money if not more than you?
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"Yes, NATO has to fight. It was an agreement. They HAD to help us on September 11, and they WILL help us if any member nation is ever attacked. Look it up please."
Obviously I know what NATO is ROFLCOPTER <---Yes I just said that.
28 member countries currently according to their website. Many of which are poor former USSR countries in Eastern Europe that can be taking over in a Blitz attack easily just like in Georgia when they thought they could try and "liberate" a part of Russian teritory they considered to be theirs.
The counties you have that could actually make a differnce are: Canada, UK, Spain, France, Italy, Germany.
Now I have one problem with this list of the ones that could do stuff in the war. France one of Russia's biggest ally... do you seriously think they would help the Americans who they already hate?
Bascially it comes down to who fires the first nuke. If its USA they'll get owned because NATO will ditch them because that would be considered USA invading therefore not in self defence therefore an attack of aggresion. France would ditch you and many of the other countries just in it for protection.
France will never help you agaisnt USA, Vladamir Putin and Nicholas Sarcousy (sp) have too much of a good relationship and there countries go way back together |
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ThoraeJoin Date: 2008-10-17
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Do you remember when a Russian bomber tried to get near Canadian airspace while Obama was visiting? They chased the bomber off. NATO will fight for USA if attacked. Don't doubt it. |
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FaltalisJoin Date: 2008-02-10
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Also what do you mean by most political stable in the world?
If you mean your government function wells and everyone loves your current government then no.
If you mean everyone loves America then no.
Please specify what you mean by that statement. |
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FaltalisJoin Date: 2008-02-10
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"Do you remember when a Russian bomber tried to get near Canadian airspace while Obama was visiting? They chased the bomber off. NATO will fight for USA if attacked. Don't doubt it."
Yes thats Canada, they have to ally you or you will invade, it was more of an escort than a chase. The Russians were just having a bit of fun =P
and I sure hope that isn't your whole response to my huge response to yours or I will have to asume you agree with everything I said. |
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ThoraeJoin Date: 2008-10-17
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I'm going to make things simple here. Okay?
Russia's GDP = 1.29 trillion
USA's GDP = 13.84 trillion
Obviously the USA has a better economy.
Factors helping the USA:
Missile defense in Europe
More allies (Especially NATO). And don't tell me they won't help. They will. The reason we didn't help Georgia is because they weren't in NATO.
Russia's political instability
Russia's bordering with enemy nations
Strong ally close to Russia, Canada. As I said, they chased off a Russian heavy bomber during Obama's visit. They are a part of NATO and are required to help us.
Alliances with all or most of Western Europe
Alliances with most or many countries in Eastern Europe.
Troops stationed in many countries close or bordering Russia (Turkey, Japan is relatively close to Russia, South Korea)
Higher population (Heard of the draft? It was horrible but can be done again)
Russia is not a superpower
China would not fight on Russia's side
I'll post more tomorrow if you're still this arrogant, but i'm going to bed now. |
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ThoraeJoin Date: 2008-10-17
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Poltically stable. Look up "political instability". |
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FaltalisJoin Date: 2008-02-10
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"Russia's GDP = 1.29 trillion
USA's GDP = 13.84 trillion
Obviously the USA has a better economy."
Sure I'll agree with you on this one.
But not that this has to do with anything America is in more debt than Russia.
Also Russia has more oil.
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"Missile defense in Europe"
Indeed. You don't think Russia has Missle defenses?
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"More allies (Especially NATO). And don't tell me they won't help. They will. The reason we didn't help Georgia is because they weren't in NATO."
I never said Georgia was in NATO, I was just refering to the fact Russia will not let Georgia or Ukraine get into NATO. They are currently trying but Russia will attack if they presest.
One major Factor of getting into NATO is that you can't have border disputes. Therefore under this logic niether Georgia or Ukraine will ever get into NATO due to the fact of border disputes.
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"Russia's political instability"
Russia is one of the most politicaly stable contries in the world. More than 66% of Russians Voted for the United Russian Party. Which is basically run by Vladamir Putin the most jacked president in the world. 6th degree black belt in juto, former KGB officer, and works out. So two thirds of Russians voted for him. Political stablity....no. Apposed to Canada where 33ish% of Canadians voted for our current prime minister Stephn Harper. and of course there's america with their regular 50% aka 50% hates your government. Not good odds.
Russia 2/3 Support <--Pretty sure this is the highest in the world.
America 1/2 Support
Canada 1/3 Support.
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"Russia's bordering with enemy nations"
Indeed very weak "ant" nations ready to be crushed.
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"Strong ally close to Russia, Canada. As I said, they chased off a Russian heavy bomber during Obama's visit. They are a part of NATO and are required to help us."
As I said Escort. Russians were messing with you they know better than to bomb Canada.
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"Alliances with all or most of Western Europe"
LOL, incorrect, a more accurate statement would be:
Alliances most of Western Europe, not all, Ireland and a couple other... Like France who WONT HELP YOU. Remember Iraq?
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"Alliances with most or many countries in Eastern Europe."
Again fail.
Alliances with some countries in Eastern Europe.
Russia has Alliances with many countries in Eastern Europe.
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"Troops stationed in many countries close or bordering Russia (Turkey, Japan is relatively close to Russia, South Korea)"
Dumbest thing in the world for South Korea to do is to attack Russia, they will get owned by North Korea.
Althou Japan does have a good army. Turkey has inferior technology and numbers.
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"Higher population (Heard of the draft? It was horrible but can be done again)"
No I havent what is it? ...fail duh... Is a draft a nother form of Political Stability...? O wait its the opposite and angers your citzens.
More population? The more damage to harm you with my dear.
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"Russia is not a superpower"
Russia is a superpower.
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China would not fight on Russia's side
China will not fight on America's side. China is Communist (or so they say they are more leaning towards socialism with a hint of Totalitarianism)
China's political ideals are closer to that of Russia's and very far off from America's.
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"I'll post more tomorrow if you're still this arrogant, but i'm going to bed now."
And I will reply if you're still this ignorant, I too shall go to bed now.
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eevee400Join Date: 2008-12-09
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W.e.ll, U.s.a di.dn.t he.l.p th.er.e a.l.li.es i.n t.he p.as.t, we.ll t.he.y d.idn.t h.el.p m.u.c.h a.t a.ll i.n W.W.1., a.nd t.he.y w.ou.ld.nt he.l.p a.t W.W.I.I u.nl.es.s p.e.ar.l ha.bo.u.r at.ta.ck h.a.p.p.e.n.e.d. I.f I as.k a.n Am.er.ica.n w.h.y, a.ll t.h.ey s.a.y i.s
"U.S.A h.ad n.o b.ui.ssn.es.s th.e.re."
Y.o.u se.e m.os.t o.f th.e t.im.e, t.he.y g.o t.o o.n.ly wa.r.s t.h.e.y s.ta.rt t.h.em.se.lv.es... |
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Wemmi0Join Date: 2008-01-20
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Russia has enough nukes to destroy the whole earth. It doesn't matter if USA has bit more.. |
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PhailbusJoin Date: 2008-12-12
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China would fight on the side of Russia...
So would India. |
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AlvcJoin Date: 2008-08-06
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Fudge... who got nuclear bombs? |
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eevee400Join Date: 2008-12-09
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I would go Boom... |
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Ossie475Join Date: 2008-10-09
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On USA v Russia, I'd go with Russia.
US has NATO, but Russia and China combined would be a formidable force, for any enemy. Even speaking as a Brit, I wouldn't fancy US chances, unless, don't know. If Russia attack American Soil, NATO Forces wouldn't be able to reach the US quickly, the Russian Navy would be able to prevent Boats reaching America, and they'd get Air Superiority, quickly, if they surprise attacked America. The US Debt wouldn't help, as it'd cost you Millions to pay for the war. Russia would be smart enough to destroy your men or aircraft in the Middle East, preventing them returning. However the US, have got very good Aircraft, but maybe not Combat Ready Squadrons, or quick reaction squadrons. But who needs to fight a War like that, when two Countries can blow the heck out of Each Other from Thousands of Miles Apart. And NATO won't get involved where the losses won't make up for the War. Risking Millions more Lives, to save a country, which is condemning itself to a worse fate by striking back.
Thanks for reading, I'd enjoy your comments, if you'd like to call me an Idiot, please do so, thank you. |
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eevee400Join Date: 2008-12-09
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I agree. |
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Ossie475Join Date: 2008-10-09
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Fellow Brit agreeing with me, makes me happy, Americans patronising me for my views, wouldn't do much, but it'd make me smile, as when Russia fights the US, they'll rue the day, somebody named him Oliver. |
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I'm.with.you.Ossie! Brits unite against the arrogant Americans! :P |
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Ossie475Join Date: 2008-10-09
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2 People Supporting, wow. 2 Supporters. Cue the Negative Comments, when Americans return home, to flame me. |
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FaltalisJoin Date: 2008-02-10
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I totally agree with you guys.
America wouldn't stand a chance. |
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DragomirJoin Date: 2008-10-24
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Squirrel, arrogant Americans? Really smart. 20 % are stupid, so you hate them. REALLY smart. |
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ThoraeJoin Date: 2008-10-17
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Sure I'll agree with you on this one.
But not that this has to do with anything America is in more debt than Russia.
Also Russia has more oil.
Again, oil matters just as much as uranium. Not.at.all
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Indeed. You don't think Russia has Missle defenses?
Of course they do.
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"More allies (Especially NATO). And don't tell me they won't help. They will. The reason we didn't help Georgia is because they weren't in NATO."
I never said Georgia was in NATO, I was just refering to the fact Russia will not let Georgia or Ukraine get into NATO. They are currently trying but Russia will attack if they presest.
One major Factor of getting into NATO is that you can't have border disputes. Therefore under this logic niether Georgia or Ukraine will ever get into NATO due to the fact of border disputes.
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"Russia's political instability"
Russia is one of the most politicaly stable contries in the world. More than 66% of Russians Voted for the United Russian Party. Which is basically run by Vladamir Putin the most jacked president in the world. 6th degree black belt in juto, former KGB officer, and works out. So two thirds of Russians voted for him. Political stablity....no. Apposed to Canada where 33ish% of Canadians voted for our current prime minister Stephn Harper. and of course there's america with their regular 50% aka 50% hates your government. Not good odds.
Russia 2/3 Support <--Pretty sure this is the highest in the world.
America 1/2 Support
Canada 1/3 Support.
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Indeed very weak "ant" nations ready to be crushed.
These nations have U.S. troops in them.
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As I said Escort. Russians were messing with you they know better than to bomb Canada.
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LOL, incorrect, a more accurate statement would be:
Alliances most of Western Europe, not all, Ireland and a couple other... Like France who WONT HELP YOU. Remember Iraq?
I did say MOST of Western Europe. You are just being ignorant again. France sent troops to Afghanistan. Alliance enough.
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Again fail.
Alliances with some countries in Eastern Europe.
Russia has Alliances with many countries in Eastern Europe.
Why are you so picky? Many doesn't neccesarily mean majority. I didn't say Russia didn't have alliances.
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Dumbest thing in the world for South Korea to do is to attack Russia, they will get owned by North Korea.
Althou Japan does have a good army. Turkey has inferior technology and numbers.
Did I say South Korea, Japan, or Turkey would attack Russia? No. I said there are U.S. troops in those countries that would if needed.
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No I havent what is it? ...fail duh... Is a draft a nother form of Political Stability...? O wait its the opposite and angers your citzens.
More population? The more damage to harm you with my dear.
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Russia is a superpower.
Russia is NOT A SUPERPOWER.LOOK.IT.UP.
The Soviet Union was a superpower. Russia.IS.NOT.
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China will not fight on America's side. China is Communist (or so they say they are more leaning towards socialism with a hint of Totalitarianism)
China's political ideals are closer to that of Russia's and very far off from America's.
Did I say China would fight on America's side? No, I implied they'd be neutral.
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And I will reply if you're still this ignorant, I too shall go to bed now.
Ignorant? You're the one who won't bother to research anything I tell you. |
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DragomirJoin Date: 2008-10-24
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Extreme post by the way. Quite true. |
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ThoraeJoin Date: 2008-10-17
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By the way, if you don't like America, GET OUT OF THIS GAME. It was made by Americans. |
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ThoraeJoin Date: 2008-10-17
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And Ossie remember this:
China would NEVER fight the U.S.
It would simply be econmic suicide for them. They would remain neutral. |
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