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francis147
#145869812Friday, September 12, 2014 1:02 AM GMT

Well American sensitivity after the sinking Lusitania swayed the public opinion towards joining in world war 1. so uh that also broke our idea isolationism which lead to us getting involved with geo-politics more, lead to us joining WW2, leading to a period of economic propserity and growth, which leads to USA's status today as a hyper power.
Signaller
#145869939Friday, September 12, 2014 1:03 AM GMT

do you think we accept you here
Utsuroido
#145869944Friday, September 12, 2014 1:03 AM GMT

Isn't the US like trillions in debt with china?
francis147
#145870020Friday, September 12, 2014 1:04 AM GMT

@Distante China owns only 8% of our debt, also their real estate bubble is about to bursts. We owe most of the debt to taxpayers, and ourselves.
Utsuroido
#145870283Friday, September 12, 2014 1:08 AM GMT

http://www.treasury.gov/ticdata/Publish/mfh.txt thats definately 8% ok dude
DystraTala
#145870407Friday, September 12, 2014 1:09 AM GMT

People act like owing debt to China is going to kill us They owe a massive amount of debt to us as well, if the US was to stop paying for labor from Chinese sweatshops then their economy would absolutely smash itself into submission.
HalloweenGodz
#145870434Friday, September 12, 2014 1:09 AM GMT

US is filled with r3t@rd$ and idiots. That's the end of it.
francis147
#145870443Friday, September 12, 2014 1:09 AM GMT

@distante u dumb? wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/File:Estimated_ownership_of_treasury_securities_by_year.gif
DystraTala
#145870487Friday, September 12, 2014 1:10 AM GMT

"US is filled with r3t@rd$ and idiots. That's the end of it." Yeah ok you europoor filth
KEEPITSTR8
#145870494Friday, September 12, 2014 1:10 AM GMT

Actually, debt to taxpayers is not reported through national debt. And we owe way more than 8% to china
Utsuroido
#145870499Friday, September 12, 2014 1:10 AM GMT

pretty sure we depend way more on china than they do on us. If they wanted their money back it's game over
CrimsonStatic
#145870592Friday, September 12, 2014 1:11 AM GMT

"if they wanted their money back it's game over" facepalm...
DystraTala
#145870629Friday, September 12, 2014 1:12 AM GMT

"pretty sure we depend way more on china than they do on us." No because America is an industrial machine as has been proven thousands of times in history and cannot be put to rest. China depends on their exports going to America to survive. "If they wanted their money back it's game over" Not at all how it works.
francis147
#145870633Friday, September 12, 2014 1:12 AM GMT

@Distante your listings aren't the total nation debt, it's the 'FOREIGN HOLDERS OF TREASURY SECURITIES' so we owe china 22% of our FOREIGN debt, and the total foreign debt makes up 28% of our national debt. so .22*.28 = 0.0616 So it's closer to 6.1%
Utsuroido
#145870642Friday, September 12, 2014 1:12 AM GMT

@fran, dont know if you're legit stupid or trolling
TheBlissful
#145870690Friday, September 12, 2014 1:12 AM GMT

Stop arguing about this topic; getting repetitive.
francis147
#145870743Friday, September 12, 2014 1:13 AM GMT

@Distante I still don't know if your IQ is half that of the IQ at the top of the bell curve, or you just don't understand debt.
Utsuroido
#145870791Friday, September 12, 2014 1:14 AM GMT

may have taken it too far with the game over thing, true but w/e believe in what you want.
CrimsonStatic
#145870807Friday, September 12, 2014 1:14 AM GMT

thinking the same about you, distan
DystraTala
#145870858Friday, September 12, 2014 1:14 AM GMT

"@fran, dont know if you're legit stupid or trolling" You're the one who knows nothing about how debt works
francis147
#145870871Friday, September 12, 2014 1:14 AM GMT

@Distante you think foreign debt = national debt. i r8 8/8
Utsuroido
#145870899Friday, September 12, 2014 1:15 AM GMT

@fran.... I repeat myself, Dont know if you're stupid or not....
francis147
#145870954Friday, September 12, 2014 1:15 AM GMT

@Distante ok you're an idiot. even the other C&Gers think so.
DystraTala
#145870990Friday, September 12, 2014 1:16 AM GMT

"may have taken it too far with the game over thing, true" That's not even what we meant you moron It's not straight up money they're giving us It's all exports from their end and imports on our end
Utsuroido
#145871041Friday, September 12, 2014 1:16 AM GMT

I forgot that dystra and fran were economists... everyone with acess to wikipedia aparently knows everything w/e wasting my time.

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