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"Get backup..."
the first officer on scene shouldn't have to wait for backup to arrive and the situation to get worse when they can handle it themselves with a gun |
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icrazy789Join Date: 2010-12-10
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Ok, cops need guns. There is no question about that and only an idiot would say they should only carry a taser.
Right off the bat, they only have an effective range of max 35 feet (and only 50% of the time do the barbs actually embed at this range. The only time they are guaranteed 100% to stick is at 15 feet or closer), so if someone is reaching into their waistband at 36 feet away, you are kinda screwed.
Next, if a suspect is actually shooting at you, you are screwed, being that you only have one shot.
Next, if someone does pull a gun on you and you are able to taser them, the will mostly likely be able to still get a couple of shots of.
Next, Taser barbs can be stopped by thick clothing, such as coats, belts, and even some thick sweaters. Also, multiple layers of clothing would stop the barb and prevent you from being tasered.
Next some people who are big enough that the shock does not stop them. Also people strung out on Cr@ck, M3th, and other substances seem not to be phased by taser shocks.
Tasers would be useless in a hostage situation.
If a cop ever finds themself in the need to stop a vehicle with force (being assaulted by auto, certain car chases, car enters a restricted area and won't leave) the cops could do nothing.
If I wanted to, I could go on but I think this is sufficient.
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In my opinion, people should find a way to make a "reloadable taser" where you put little taser charge things and you can fire them to an enemy.
Now a lot of you will think that this isn't possible, but for the FutureCities competition which ended last month, we all had to describe some sort of innovative technology and we have to explain how it can be made. Mine was a sort of plasma forcefield that goes around a farm during tsunamis. It used wires, air tubes, plasma generators, etc. It's quite simple to make, but the only problem is that if you walk into it, you melt. Also, if it breaks, then all the crops and animals and people nearby will die.
It's true, there are people doing it now. It's basically a combination of these two to a larger scale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8ejIuZYwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vd7FV_UKCU
Also, here's the melting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kggYZYZjA1E |
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@My-post-above
If you're wondering how that's relevant, my point is that anything is possible. |
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Tazer rang = ~50 feet.
Yep, we got to sneak fifty feet close to that guy shooting everywhere while his friend is blowing stuff up.
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SMS1337Join Date: 2014-02-19
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but what if i am a snipars and i start quickscoping
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"Taser range = ~50 feet"
When did I say it would be so short? |
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icrazy789Join Date: 2010-12-10
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"Tazer rang = ~50 fee."
Actually, the maximum effective range is 35 feet.
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yoshiegg6Join Date: 2012-07-20
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"like i said, an increasing number of people are immune to this effect (especially the mentally ill)"
Being mentally ill does not affect a taser. Tases literally stop your muscles from receiving electrical input. So unless a high powered steel projectile doesn't move past clothing, you're done. |
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@ic
Meh, i didn't know, that's why i put the "~".
Don't be an Avacado kids, Liz says it's not healthy. |
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+respect to icrazy
good job completely taking out the OPs argument |
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don't they already carry tasers? |
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@iCrazy
I meant the NEW taser. My idea above. |
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icrazy789Join Date: 2010-12-10
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"I meant the NEW taser. My idea above."
Ok, other than the range part, go look at the rest of my argument.
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now if cops carried sleep dart guns that would be different
but that sounds ridiculous |
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yoshiegg6Join Date: 2012-07-20
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I personally thing guns should only be used when the suspect is armed. |
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icrazy789Join Date: 2010-12-10
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"I personally thing guns should only be used when the suspect is armed."
But how do you know if they are armed?
What do you do if you are approach a suspect and they reach into their jacket, waistband, etc. and keep doing it after they are told to stop. How do you know if the person is just trying to hide evidence or is actually reaching for a weapon?
What do you when you pull someone over, they are reaching around in their car, and act strange when you approach them.
What do you do one someone charges at you and won't stop when ordered to?
How do you in these cases if a person is armed or not? You may have to use deadly force and they tun out to be unarmed. Or maybe you don't use deadly force and it turns out they have a gun or knife that they are willing to use?
This is why cops have to play it safe.
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This thread is a good reminder that OP is what defines the average "educated" liberal |
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ShivyAUJoin Date: 2013-02-19
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police in australia dont carry guns
and hey, we also dont get riots every second week |
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cops need guns, just like the marines
you don't see a marine running up to someone with a tazer
the chances of you actually tazing them before they shoot/stab you is low, but sometimes it's effective
tazers can only do so much before they're ineffective
also bait
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XTGNecroJoin Date: 2008-10-26
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Tasers won't do a thing to a man with heavy armor on. |
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ConnorV5Join Date: 2014-08-05
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I am becoming a police officer after I serve a few years in the US Marine corps. |
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@Rhett
Do petty crimes - even the distribution of illegal substances or the encouraging of physical exploitation - justify the loss of life?
There is, there, an entire being; one who thinks and feels and experiences. Who are we to judge the worth of a life? Where is the line between justice and unrighteous hypocrisy? Can any man be trusted to know and abide by the line?
In the words of Gandalf: "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement."
@ez12
>" an increasing number of people are immune to [ a tazer's ] effect (especially the mentally ill) "
Where did you obtain this information, and what makes you so sure your source is reputable? This sounds a bit sketchy to me.
@The Conservatives
Do you feel powerful? Do you revel in your ability to express your outdated ideas; to vote them into power? Do you appreciate your own free will, handed to you by those you oppose? Then you, too, are a liberal; quite a hypocrite of one, but none the lesser.
@PotatoWeasel
This is a long-debated topic with no resolve that I can see.
The way I see it, in a functional society where the authorities are unarmed, too would be the public, but clearly one cannot surrender without empowering the other; if the public is unarmed, the government with have an authoritarian control over them; if the government is unarmed, criminals will be unheeded and criminal activity will skyrocket.
If we truly value human life[ and therefore want for the end of violence ], we must remove the tools which empower perpetrators [ on either side of the line prior mentioned ] and not the perpetrators themselves. Sometimes we become so objective that we forget it is subjectivity which allows us to bear judgement.
Nothing which speaks for itself can be truly objective, so it makes little sense for sentient, intelligent beings such as ourselves to strive to be inanimate.
So no, I will not be contributing to either side of the argument, but rather to the collective debate.
Thank you, and keep on questioning.
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