ZachHelmsJoin Date: 2011-09-14
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i was browsing on the internet one day and i found Ariana Grande being proclaimed as one of the best singers of this generation
apparently, i was supposed to be in awe of her talent
i wasn't really impressed, she's basically just an average singer who raises her pitch higher in her songs to get pops
her lyrics aren't really that good either
she's not that good people and not the next big thing
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you're not some kind of musical genius for knowing this |
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IsOfflineJoin Date: 2012-01-01
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oh ariana
your flat booty
and mosquito bite nips
are perfect to me
"Pssh, nothin personnel, kid" |
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ZachHelmsJoin Date: 2011-09-14
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@theassassin
of course not
even a caveman would know it |
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I know that Ariana Grande has become popular here after pitchfork gave her a positive review, but I've seen a lot of people make a glaring but easily avoidable mistake when discussing this album.
You see, when you make a statement like "I really enjoy Ariana Grande's music," what you mean to say is "I really enjoy the music that the marketing team at Universal music put together"
What you're listening to is not actually Ariana Grande's album, but an album that was written and performed by several people employed by the record company. Oddly, their names don't appear on the cover and their picture is no where to be found in the inlay.
Ariana Grande's contribution to the album is supplying passable vocals that are likely heavily manipulated in studio and being skinny and attractive enough (by mainstream media standards, that is) to produce a nice image and heavily airbrushed cover.
The music that you're listening to is not an artistic expression of Ariana Grande, in fact, it's not even an expression of the people who actually wrote the music. They are hired by record companies to write and compose songs for many different artists. The only two prerequisites is that they are in line with what is trendy and they can help further whatever image the record company decided to give the artist. It's all marketing.
And don't be fooled, it's been marketed towards you as well. You are not a special, open minded snowflake. You are a cog in the corporate, manufactured machine, and pitchfork is holding your hand the entire way.
I'm not saying it's not okay to enjoy this music, or that it's objectively bad, I just think you ought to be honest about what you're actually listening to, and it's not Ariana Grande. |
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IsOfflineJoin Date: 2012-01-01
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@everquest
tl, dr.
"Pssh, nothin personnel, kid" |
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meldoJoin Date: 2008-11-04
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i love you ariana grandeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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she deserves to be named one of the best singers of this generation because she is unquestionably
just because he can reach heavenly notes & sing in whistle register better than anyone else people overlook her other singing abilities
she's way above average, anyone who's listened to more of her music other than her popular singles knows this
"her lyrics aren't really that good either
she's not that good people and not the next big thing"
she works in a collaborative process when writing some of her lyrics, particularly with her popular singles (likely the only ones you've really listened to)
that being said, her lyrics are thoughtful & so beautiful, it just might not be your style
it's easy to see that she is remarkably talented which leads to her popularity.
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ariana grande is horrible |
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ZachHelmsJoin Date: 2011-09-14
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"she deserves to be named one of the best singers of this generation because she is unquestionably"
no she isn't
"just because he can reach heavenly notes & sing in whistle register better than anyone else people overlook her other singing abilities"
but that's all she's really good at
"she's way above average, anyone who's listened to more of her music other than her popular singles knows this"
such as? are there some great underground Ariana Grande performances i'm suddenly not aware of?
"she works in a collaborative process when writing some of her lyrics, particularly with her popular singles (likely the only ones you've really listened to)
that being said, her lyrics are thoughtful & so beautiful, it just might not be your style"
she has some of the most cliché lyrics I have ever seen sung by a singer
"it's easy to see that she is remarkably talented which leads to her popularity."
she's not remarkably talented |
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meldoJoin Date: 2008-11-04
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believe what you want but her range is pretty impressive |
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ZachHelmsJoin Date: 2011-09-14
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@meldo
that's about it
that's the only redeeming quality she possesses
stil far from the greatest thing of this generation |
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Eve,
no one mentioned either of her albums
& those statements aren't the same because it is her music/albums
a marketing team isn't the same as a production team at all, either.
collaborating in songwriting & performing with a FEW, not several people does not make the albums any less her own. If you think that then you're saying many artists don't have their own albums, & that's moronic.
She performed & wrote on every piece of her work.
The artists she collaborated with are listed on the back covers
this makes me think you've never even held a copy of either album you say you know so much about
Her contribution is so much more than that, her singing isn't "supplying" & her vocals can only be described as angelic & incomparable to any other.
you definitely have no clue what you're talking about in that
also to say they are 'likely' heavily manipulated is something known to be the opposite when it's clear (and has been praised countless times) that she doesn't use manipulation & sounds exactly the same in her live performances as she does on digital tracks.
This in itself proves you know nothing about her.
being skinny or attractive doesn't contribute to an album's content, clearly
it also has nothing to do with her music, talent, or popularity & recognition.
her music is directly an artistic expression of herself from her dedication & hard work along with her love & passion for music & the arts.
the rest of what you say really shows you know nothing about music as an industry & sounds paranoid of something.
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She's talented in many other things zac
and as for singing, that's not all she's good at
"such as? are there some great underground Ariana Grande performances i'm suddenly not aware of?"
i'm sure there are, but you don't even have to see any to know she's talented way above average
& I said "music other than her popular singles" & you saying "such as?" after that is admitting you haven't heard anything other than those
whether you realise that or not
"she has some of the most cliché lyrics I have ever seen sung by a singer"
you must have never listened to many singers at all then,
& surely not other singers on the radio
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IcyclezJoin Date: 2013-03-01
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>"ariana grande is horrible"
THANK YOU
FINALLY someone gets it. |
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ariana grande is horrible |
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FraximusJoin Date: 2012-08-19
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Kids just say she is because of her looks. That's because they think of her while going to a sight like Youtube, but very different. Get my flow? |
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^no, no one says that
you can tell pre can't recognise music
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darko29Join Date: 2009-02-02
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she barely pronounces any words and just mumbles through her nose. Plus, she has an ugly personality. |
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@Del , You've had you're head up a lot of terrible artists ass.
I like good music , what about you? |
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ZotusJoin Date: 2012-02-26
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ariana grande is famous just because black thirsy people love her |
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ZotusJoin Date: 2012-02-26
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*thirsty |
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meldoJoin Date: 2008-11-04
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"one of the best singers of this generation"
she kind of is though
at least our mainstream generation
she has an insane range and as far as i'm aware controls it fairly well |
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darko i've never heard her mispronounce anything, & you don't even know her personality at all, don't be a moron
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