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or let me customize what the "Play" button launches on ROBLOX games (/usr/share/applications/ROBLOX/) so I can launch my wine overlay directly from my native browser???
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Nteorvolri, can you at least try to sound intelligent when you troll? |
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"if I'm not mistaken, Linux is some sort of OS that leans towards coding/programming or whatever
therefore if you have Linux you probably code a bit
so code a program to get your stuff to work or don't use Linux
simple"
You're very mistaken and it doesn't work that way. You can't just code on one operating system and use that same code outside with C/C++ programming. The problem resides in the fact that there's Windows/OSX specific code that only will ever work on Windows/OSX. Drawing a window in C++ is dependent on the underlying OS unless you make your own OS yourself, which then it will depend on however you program it.
Linux is about open-source for the most, which is the ability to look at a program's source and learn from it. Not about programming as a whole. |
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Because it's significantly better, and free. |
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Almost nobody uses Linux. That's a fact.
Don't say "Linux is better and free," "Mac is better," or "Windows is the best." Don't turn this thread into a fanboy flamewar on which OS is the best. |
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Okay which one of you want to buy me a Windows 8 install disk or a 1000$ apple computer? |
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"Almost nobody uses Linux. That's a fact."
Or... Not. If you want to get technical, Android (Linux) is dominating the mobile shares. Linux dominates server shares. And Linux is almost as comparable as Mac OSX is, because the percentage of people using Windows is roughly around ~91.22%.
"Don't say "Linux is better and free," "Mac is better," or "Windows is the best." Don't turn this thread into a fanboy flamewar on which OS is the best."
You can prove that it's better, it's free and does the same as any other OS, plus more. That's not being a fanboy, that's being honest. You can't do a lot of the same things that Linux can on either Windows and Mac. And for this reason it's better. If you want to delete Linux within Linux, then that's your choice, both OSX and Windows attempts to prevent this, but you can get around it, but you shouldn't HAVE to get around anything.
"if you have a lot of stuff that runs on windows or best with windows, use windows"
It's not about what runs on best on an OS. It about the fact that they're not even trying to port it. Almost every major game library supports OpenGL and is crossplatform, yet they either totally skipped out on using one when porting to Mac or is using one and skipped out on releasing a Linux version.
"if you do Linux stuff, use linux"
You don't seem to understand why it's so upsetting that they haven't made a Linux port yet. Linux is fine and dandy for most things, and the only way we can play some of our games is to use Wine, which isn't that great most of the time and that's not really fair, because Wine basically emulates Windows' binaries in order to make them compatible which means we're basically using Windows on a Linux OS.
"if you do Linux stuff, use linux"
I fail to see how one is more useful than the other. At least Windows PAE, which allows a 32 bit processor to use more than 4GB RAM.
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Then you don't belong in the discussion. :) |
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FLChanJoin Date: 2014-04-27
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...I'm called to the table! Ridiculously easy to keep an eye on these things, but when I'm not, Nte keeps me posted.
The ROBLOX community doesn't need these types of arguments here, nor are they permitted.
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=80620879
I would advise reviewing the following sections:
"Don’t Post Flame Bait and Flames"
"Don’t Post Personal Attacks"
"Don’t Be Rude"
Take it to personal messages, or leave it alone. If you continue, you'll never stop. It's one fact of teenagers nowadays- set them going off on arguing about a topic, regardless of how much they know about it, and they will never stop until they feel their self-esteem is high enough. Your only issue is Nte doesn't argue for that reason, so you're in a bit of a pickle there.
However, I feel I may want to offer small input- one should use an operating system based on their needs for a computer. Obviously, if you would prefer to focus on playing games (ROBLOX included), and your operating system does not fully support gaming or is not designed for gaming whatsoever, you should consider trying a new OS. |
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"are you so stuck-up that you feel that you are better than everyone else to the point you believe that you have authority to tell someone to stop posting on a thread?"
No. It was a suggestion. If you don't know the topic and won't go do some valid research, then you shouldn't contribute your thoughts. Especially when it's technical.
"I would advise reviewing the following sections:
"Don’t Post Flame Bait and Flames"
"Don’t Post Personal Attacks"
"Don’t Be Rude""
Only I did not post flame bait, nor flames, nor personal attack and I wasn't being rude. Nte won't go do research, I shouldn't have to repeat myself. She should know how to Google.
"e. If you continue, you'll never stop. It's one fact of teenagers nowadays- set them going off on arguing about a topic, regardless of how much they know about it, and they will never stop until they feel their self-esteem is high enough."
Good thing I'm not a teenager then, right. :)
"However, I feel I may want to offer small input- one should use an operating system based on their needs for a computer. Obviously, if you would prefer to focus on playing games (ROBLOX included), and your operating system does not fully support gaming or is not designed for gaming whatsoever, you should consider trying a new OS."
It's not like there isn't games for that OS. Especially with Valve's SteamOS being Linux and what not. That's a stupid reason to not to get people to bring it to another OS anyways.
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FLChanJoin Date: 2014-04-27
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I believe you have missed the point of my response, which was to note that arguments are not permitted on the forums and should be taken and resolved on PMs. The links and sections for rule links are, in summary, asking you not to argue on the forums. It is easier to resolve quarrels through messages, and it will not harm public reputation which may affect your emotions. Perhaps the OP would prefer you not to argue on their thread.
About the teenager behavior part, there is a fine line of recognition between being a teenager and not being one. I recognize your behavior as one of them. It is simply how I am set up to view things and it has been accurate in most cases. Response style and dedication to the response shows a lot about you. It is too bad it does not work in my case. I am simply programmed this way. Oh, well. |
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"I believe you have missed the point of my response, which was to note that arguments are not permitted on the forums and should be taken and resolved on PMs. The links and sections for rule links are, in summary, asking you not to argue on the forums. "
The discussion was on topic, you're straying from the topic. We weren't arguing, or not at least not in the "quarreling" way you mentioned. The very fact you think arguing is against the rules, means that you don't know what arguing means (and that you didn't even read the posts). If you have opposite views, and you discuss back and fourth, you're arguing or debating. Not quarreling.
"About the teenager behavior part, there is a fine line of recognition between being a teenager and not being one. I recognize your behavior as one of them. It is simply how I am set up to view things and it has been accurate in most cases. "
I don't act like a teenager, I'm not calling people names, or calling someone dumb or belittling anyone. It's a simple fact that if you're not going to do research and bring an educated opinion then you do not belong in the discussion. Telling me to repeat myself in English (which was to begin with) is just plain rude. Especially since none of that was hardcore technical.
Now you're being off-topic, and so I hope your next reply isn't about this and is about there being a port of Roblox to Linux, which I have given some valid facts that you can't argue.
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About 90% of the work is done already, when rbx was ported over to OS X, which uses a Unix kernel as well.
Problem is that last 10% will be too difficult, with all the distributions of Linux and configurations of hardware and whatnot. I mean, OS X runs on pretty similar hardware everywhere. It can reasonably be assumed that if I've got a mac, one of only a few configurations will be the best for my hardware/software combination.
Same with PCs. There's more hardware configurations to design around (ie amd/intel), but there's only one major version of the operating system that rbx needs to take into account.
However, there are many, many, many distributions of Linux. Yes, there's a few popular ones, but even in them, you can have many different hardware/software/driver/OS combinations (pretty much no one uses the default installs of linux), and not all of them are guaranteed to be able to work with roblox at all, and another large portion of combinations won't be stable. It'd be far too much work to test all of 'em, and it'd take attention away from keeping the engine up to date. |
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"i see my claim that people with program/code/data/scripting related names or with those words in them or somehow put in them are usually egomaniacs has been supported"
You're not even using the word correctly. Saying that I know more about a field that I'm studying or even being proud of the field of study doesn't make me an egomaniac. Ego = One's self. Never in this entire thread have I said I was better than you or more important than you. I told you know more about the topic you're not even doing research on. Clearly, you can't even research the definition into a word you're going to use.
Are you going to argue with a doctor, who knows more about the medical field than you, about what an aorta dissection is and continue to tell him he's an idiot for knowing more than you? No? Then sit down and shut up. You don't belong in this conversion and you've shown it by how ignorant you are.
"either way i said i was wrong but my original point still stands since it was not proved wrong so please keep ranting your superiority complex thanks"
Your point is an ignorant opinion and not a fact. Why do people use Chrome or Firefox even though Internet Explorer does basically the same thing as both of them? Because they don't like it.
At least Powertool knows more about what he's talking about than you. I don't know if he has gone through any CS classes or is even at Uni level in education, but he has at least done some research at some point and can actually contribute an educated response about such.
"and not all of them are guaranteed to be able to work with roblox at all, and another large portion of combinations won't be stable."
The biggest problem isn't really the drivers for this though, either. The game won't be directly talking to the drivers anyways. A problem will occur in shoddy driver programming, sure. In any case, you can make your own drivers if you feel confident in your abilities.
The real problem is that if you have a graphics card that doesn't support OpenGL (because that's usually shipped with the GPU) then you're going to have to support a software version yourself or something to that effect.
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