SadcampJoin Date: 2010-11-05
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I'm a fellow from the clan community, and would like to suggest an option that can be set by the owner of a group to make it specifically that only people with accounts that have 13+ access can join or see the group.
The intent of this was set because on a C&G group, a few fellows were a little irate about the fact that LGBT groups can be seen by everyone, including children under the age of 13. It was also discussed that if LGBT groups should be deleted, then so should groups that favor race, religion, etc. Instead of this, I had devised this filter.
If the owner or the group should find it fit that material in the group should be viewed by people 13 and older, then they can set the option for that so only 13+ accounts can join. If the parents of a child (per say, 8 years old) deliberately sets the account age to older than he actually is, setting it to 13+, and the parents or child find said material of a 13+ group offensive, they cannot file complaint because they deliberately let their child have access to the group when they should not have done so.
This can not hurt the clan community as it is merely an option that the owner can set, so if a group still wants to thrive, they do not have to set their group to 13+, however, if a complaint is filed of offensive material, a moderator may enforce a temporary 13+ or even permanent. (IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE MODERATOR COULD LEAVE A NOTE WITH IT TO MAKE SURE THE OWNER KNOWS WHY HIS GROUP WAS 13+'D.)
This all being said, I will summarize this in a TL;DR Fashion:
Groups should have an option for the owner to select whether the group should be accessed by 13+ accounts or not. Read above for more.
screw it and hail satan, im a penguin. i love c&gs faces. |
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if you're basing this off of lgbt than well you're kind of an idiot. |
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I don't really see a point to this. A group should still be able to reported if it has material that shouldn't be viewed by people under 13. Roblox is made for all ages so are groups, you shouldn't be restricting a feature or part of a feature just because of age.
That being said I think you know I do not support. |
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SadcampJoin Date: 2010-11-05
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@TheHarl
It does not only have to be based off the fact that a few people are irate over a LGBT subject, it can also be in many war clans, as you know, not everything is 'child friendly'. Hell, you're on C&G, you should know that already.
screw it and hail satan, im a penguin. i love c&gs faces. |
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ya but what is like difference in content allowed
i seen people in lgbt groups under 13 if they know already then why should they not be allowed tbh
and same with clans
also there is not much difference in over 13 and under 13 in people tbh |
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SadcampJoin Date: 2010-11-05
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@barbie
See this if you wish to read through a bunch of arguments made before I posted this:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=165519768
screw it and hail satan, im a penguin. i love c&gs faces. |
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umm yeah that is a lot of posts can you say what in particular you want to be read |
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SealiteyJoin Date: 2011-02-10
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I think that this idea taken to a certain extent is reasonable enough to support. |
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PolyMorphic is right.
what shouldn't be allowed is online dating or any sort of inappropriate conversations.
you can't hide the idea, because preventing people from learning about the existence of something leads to the hate and intolerance we see nowadays. |
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"It does not only have to be based off the fact that a few people are irate over a LGBT subject, it can also be in many war clans, as you know, not everything is 'child friendly'. Hell, you're on C&G, you should know that already."
for clans like vak yes absolutely but most clans are fine and shouldn't be given this option.
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SadcampJoin Date: 2010-11-05
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@barbie
If you don't look over both sides of the argument, then you won't have an understanding as to why I made this.
Read all of it, ofcourse.
I understand that Roblox is for all ages, I voiced that in a post on that same thread I posted towards you.
I'm just posting this as a suggestion in favor of an equalization method.
screw it and hail satan, im a penguin. i love c&gs faces. |
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why is vak bad then
someone should report it
if i had any idea what you were on about i would report
roblox should be suitable for all and if you not like that join a teen site then ok |
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"why is vak bad then
someone should report it
if i had any idea what you were on about i would report"
no it's just if a 9 yo was in it and a mother walked in seeing her child involved with the clan, she'd think her child was a satanist. it's actually just a war clan, but looks matter a lot to people for some reason. |
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When I was 9 I was in war groups.. My parents didn't think I was a stanist lol. |
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SadcampJoin Date: 2010-11-05
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@Harl
VAK is not the only culprit of 'Bad mouthing' and stuff of the sort. Many of the clans that are actively talked about on C&G are also very much culprits.
@otherguysayingpolyisright
That's why it's til you're 13. Once your account has been given 13+ privilege, he's free to learn about the world as it is. 8 is an age to be learning about basics and fundamentals of life, not racist religion and experimenting shmexuality.
screw it and hail satan, im a penguin. i love c&gs faces. |
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ok i read it all and have no idea what is going on
care to explain or no |
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When I was 8 I was learning about religion and shexuality. I know it seems like a bad thing but you should intorduce people to the real world sooner rather than later. |
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"When I was 9 I was in war groups.. My parents didn't think I was a stanist lol."
no but if you're 9 and your parents ever see you in a vak uniform or something, they'll think you're a satanist. vak are nothing like that, but if they were to base it on looks alone, they'd think you're in a cult.
"@Harl
VAK is not the only culprit of 'Bad mouthing' and stuff of the sort. Many of the clans that are actively talked about on C&G are also very much culprits."
i'm not talking about that i'm talking about the fact that if vak were to be based on the outside alone, they'd look demonic to concerned parents and that would be, bad for roblox.
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SadcampJoin Date: 2010-11-05
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@barbie
it's basically an argument as to whether the groups should be allowed on roblox based on the fact that children should not be exposed to material whether of negative or positive influence.
screw it and hail satan, im a penguin. i love c&gs faces. |
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well if i can't understand then no child will
srsly
all this "influence" stuff
most things just go over my head the same with children
rewatch things i watch as kid and i get so much more and it's like "oh that naughty"
it didn't influence me because i didn't understand
so religion and stuff will not influence because they do not understand
oml you kids think kids younger than you have same understanding but more innocence than is not case |
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"oml you kids think kids younger than you have same understanding but more innocence than is not case"
Everybody thinks younger kids are innocent or something. That is not true. With all the social medias and links they can go to, most children are nowhere near innocent. |
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SadcampJoin Date: 2010-11-05
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@iievan
i understand you were exposed to such material at such an age, but it's not like we're keeping a guy inside shut from the world for 30 years teaching him nothing but hardcore christianity and good morality, that everyone else in the world is bad,
then after 30 years letting him out.
we're talking about not letting them see content that THE GROUP OWNER set to a 13+ group (ask the owner for reasoning). this is not required at all, simply an option.
if anything, if the kid is so interested, he can google what he see's, but as a company based on child suitability, they would want to keep touchier subjects away from children should the thought be too strong for the average young child.
once again, i'm not asking moderators to go about setting groups to 13+, this is the owner of a group choosing whether they want their content to be seen by children of a younger age or not.
screw it and hail satan, im a penguin. i love c&gs faces. |
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I have a suggestion then. Maybe if it is 13+ when you click join it gives you a reason why the group owner made it 13+ then at least it makes this a bit better.
If you add that I can see myself supporting this. |
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oml sadcamp you have completely wrong idea
so as someone older than you but brain more like child i can tell you this
"too serious for young child" - no it is not because they don't get it
most things i see online i just don't understand
google it i don't understand
see it on roblox don't understand
child have even poorer understanding than me they are not suddenly going to be satanists wearing rainbow clothes |
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SadcampJoin Date: 2010-11-05
Post Count: 21729 |
@iievan
perhaps it can be molded so that there is a warning over the entire thing, so if they want to view the entirety of the group instead of joining and having no idea what they joined until after they joined, their can be a page that says 'Warning: The group page you are about to visit has been set to 13+ because of 'Group owner reason here'. Are you sure you wish to continue?'
screw it and hail satan, im a penguin. i love c&gs faces. |
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