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AnimatedDannyo
#167736406Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:02 AM GMT

Would you rather have your team make it to the Superbowl and lose, or lose earlier in the playoffs? Yeah, that's what I thought. Brady made it there more times, Montana lost earlier in the playoffs instead. ᗩᘉᓰᗰᗩ☂ᕮↁᗪᗩᘉᘉϒ〇
CheeseyMacral
#167736450Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:02 AM GMT

tom brady is the best quarterback of all time and whoever denies that is delusional Iᴛ ᴀɪɴᴛ ᴇᴀsʏ, ʙᴇɪɴɢ Cʜᴇᴇsᴇʏ.
SenhorFroob
#167736462Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:02 AM GMT

actually because I am a canucks fan it hurts less losing early
extemmasfriend2
#167737094Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:12 AM GMT

@Cheesey sorry, it's Aaron Rodgers
deathrange07
#167737230Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:14 AM GMT

1) super bowls don't determine who the better QB is, it's a ####ing team effort 2) they both played in different eras where the rules, officiating, coaching, etc. was different, sort of impossible to truly say who's better "Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak." - Unknown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ
AnimatedDannyo
#167738359Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:30 AM GMT

"super bowls don't determine who the better QB is, it's a ####ing team effort" Being good is about your contribution to the team. If you are able to lead your team to Superbowls, that is the ultimate. Winning is the point of the game, and if you lead your team to the holy grail of winning in football, you're good. ᗩᘉᓰᗰᗩ☂ᕮↁᗪᗩᘉᘉϒ〇
SenhorFroob
#167738489Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:33 AM GMT

ani is right, there is no way someone like fitzpatrick would win/make the superbowl
extemmasfriend2
#167738770Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:38 AM GMT

lmao, trent Dilfer won a superbowl. i guess he was a great quarterback!!!!!!!
deathrange07
#167738952Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:41 AM GMT

yes winning it means you're a good QB, but it doesn't change the fact the best QB ever would still need to have a good team around him to win a SB. there are QBs with super bowl rings not even relatively near the top 50 QBs and then QBs with none in the top 20. they call it a team sport for a reason. "Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak." - Unknown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ
extemmasfriend2
#167739082Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:43 AM GMT

exactly death one of the greatest QB's of all time Dan Marino never won a superbowl. Yet an averageass QB like Trent Dilfer has won a superbowl.
AnimatedDannyo
#167739614Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:52 AM GMT

You clearly didn't understand what I said. I didn't say that winning a Superbowl automatically makes you good, nor did I say that not winning a Superbowl makes you bad. What I'm saying is that there will never bee a GoAT candidate who doesn't have a championship. It won't happen. ᗩᘉᓰᗰᗩ☂ᕮↁᗪᗩᘉᘉϒ〇
deathrange07
#167740006Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:59 AM GMT

"I didn't say that winning a Superbowl automatically makes you good" yes you did: "if you lead your team to the holy grail of winning in football, you're good." "What I'm saying is that there will never bee a GoAT candidate who doesn't have a championship. It won't happen." it is very very very very unlikely but still possible, although with how much championships seem to matter for QB rankings you're probably right "Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak." - Unknown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ
DeadMan253
#167740098Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:01 AM GMT

What I'm saying is that there will never bee a GoAT candidate who doesn't have a championship. It won't happen. That's dumb to say
SRHL
#167740138Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:02 AM GMT

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AnimatedDannyo
#167740176Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:03 AM GMT

"yes you did: "if you lead your team to the holy grail of winning in football, you're good."" ugh I'm tired I keep wording things wrong Okay I meant to say that I wasn't implying that winning the Superbowl automatically makes you ONE OF THE BEST EVER. ᗩᘉᓰᗰᗩ☂ᕮↁᗪᗩᘉᘉϒ〇
alejandroJUGO
#167740384Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:07 AM GMT

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AnimatedDannyo
#167740468Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:09 AM GMT

"That's dumb to say" It's not as ludicrous as it may sound. Like I said, the point of the game is to win. If a QB throws for 300 yards in a game and loses, it doesn't mean anything. ᗩᘉᓰᗰᗩ☂ᕮↁᗪᗩᘉᘉϒ〇
extemmasfriend2
#167740573Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:11 AM GMT

"What I'm saying is that there will never bee a GoAT candidate who doesn't have a championship. It won't happen." i literally just mentioned one of the greatest QB's of all time and doesn't have a superbowl ring
AnimatedDannyo
#167740789Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:14 AM GMT

"i literally just mentioned one of the greatest QB's of all time and doesn't have a superbowl ring" Dan Marino was DEFINITELY one of the best QBs to play the game. However, how many times have you heard someone call Marino THE best? Probably never. I'm not talking about QBs who were in the top 10 or top 5 best, I'm talking about QBs whose names get thrown around when talking about the best quarterback ever. ᗩᘉᓰᗰᗩ☂ᕮↁᗪᗩᘉᘉϒ〇
AnimatedDannyo
#167740954Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:17 AM GMT

(Why can't we have more threads like this on SF? Actual debates that aren't hostile and have real points being made.) ᗩᘉᓰᗰᗩ☂ᕮↁᗪᗩᘉᘉϒ〇
extemmasfriend2
#167741048Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:18 AM GMT

Yeah it's usually, Joe Montana, John Elway, and Dan Marino
AnimatedDannyo
#167741313Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:24 AM GMT

QBs I hear being mentioned for GoAT. Brady Montana Unitas Elway Staubach Marino Bradshaw Favre Manning ᗩᘉᓰᗰᗩ☂ᕮↁᗪᗩᘉᘉϒ〇
CheeseyMacral
#167741902Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:37 AM GMT

>Yeah it's usually, Joe Montana, John Elway, and Dan Marino no, it isn't 1. brady 2. montana 3. manning Iᴛ ᴀɪɴᴛ ᴇᴀsʏ, ʙᴇɪɴɢ Cʜᴇᴇsᴇʏ.
DarkImperiator
#167752902Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:40 PM GMT

eye guess eye m delusional,,,,
extemmasfriend2
#167769606Thursday, July 16, 2015 4:58 PM GMT

@Cheesey talking about retired QB's bud.

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