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Here are most of the main points that I have said in this thread. It might not make much sense (sometimes), but that's because it's all copied and pasted. If you can read it all -
"There are three kinds of people:
Non-BCer's = The people who are new/semi-new,
Veteran Non-BCer's = The people from the good old days when Roblox was still "young"
BCer's (I'm leaving out Veteran BCer's) = BCer's ('nough said)
Non-BCer's are content with what they have because they are Semi-new, Veteran Non-BCer's aren't as content because they know, from way back when, that ROBLOX has gone a little overboard with all the updates, and BCer's are content with what they have because they have what ever they want.
I found (or at least what I think is) The Perfect Compromise, called "Veteran Benefits". Most of you, most likely the BCer's and Non-BCer's, will probably not like it at first. Veteran Benefits (I will now refer to as "VB") are what I think can probably calm everyone down. Veteran Non-BCer's want balance, because ROBLOX has been giving BC all the updates.
ROBLOX obviously wants as many people to buy BC as possible, so he's making it better and better and better. Veteran's think that he's gone a little far, but I think that VB will help Veteran's out. A year is a long time to wait, but us Veteran's are the one's that didn't waver in their loyalty to Roblox, not even now. VB is basically what I've been saying all along, but instead of everyone, it's only for Veteran's (duh). The "Benefits" are as follows:
about 5 Robux a day
Maybe one group (even when getting 5 robux, a group would cost a whole lot more money to a non-Bcer than a BCer)
Very exspencive, but buyable places (and of course, with a limit to how many)
maybe one badge (I don't care much for that one, myself)
This seems to me a good idea, because -
1) I think most of the people that are complaining/protesting/suggesting are Veteran (or almost will be, like myself) Non-BCer's.
2) Those that are too impatient to wait a year can either live with it, or buy BC.
3) ROBLOX will still get people to buy BC (which I know is what he wants most), because, I'm pretty sure, most people are very impatient (including myself sometimes.)
4) I believe it has the balance that Awesome6100 wanted.
Plus it doesn't sound to unreasonable, because my IP address is 1629484, and I'm not a Veteran yet. So that means that less than a quarter of the population will get it. And ROBLOX wants as many people as possible to get BC, but if most of them were Veteran's than most of them will probably not get BC, becauses they would be too content. So as it is, VB will -
1) make Impatient Non-BCer's to buy BC.
2) Keep most of the complainer's/protester's/suggester's happy.
3) make BCer's not get too angry about us getting something, because some of them agree with our complaining/protesting/suggesting, not everyone gets it, and we have to wait to get it, but they can pay and get it immediately.
How would you solve the problem? This way seemed the best to me, because a lot people will still buy BC, and Veterans are happy. The only problem I see are that non-BCer's (not veteran non-BCer's) are still in the same position as they were before, but these non-BCer's haven't been on Roblox as long, and they don't know what it used to be like, so they are more content than us Veterans. The knew situation is -
New/Semi-new Non-BCer's = content and basking in there ignorance.
Veteran Non-BCer's = Content that they got a reward for there loyalty.
BCer's (New, and Vets.) = The same cause they already have everything.
I know that's probably not how everyone feels, because nobody is exactly the same. But I think it's how most people would feel. Seeing as I'm not a BCer(and I, most likely, never will be), I do not know exactly how they would feel. I think this was the best way to "calm the storm".
we won't get the same allowance as BC. They would get three times as much. I also think that the 5 robux should be a login bonus, instead of a daily robux, because then, those that don't play often won't get as much as the people that are actually loyal.
A.k.A. They get 15 Robux every DAY, and we would get 5 Robux every day, as long as we login.
To show that I'm not just a greedy non-BCer, I am going to address every person that has said something against VB. I will make the arguements that I think best against your statements.
@Tofwap
FIVE/TEN years?!?!?! You've got to be crazy. There is no possible way that Roblox will last ten years. TEN years is more than 2/3 of my age. I'm not even active every day, every summer I don't have internet (for a reason I won't say), so I'm not active for two months. If I had to be avtive for five years, I would have to get on Roblox 1,825 days total. That's sixty months. Is it sounding absurd yet?
@Bballer
Fifteen Robux a month is the same as fifteen tickets a day (basically). That is thirty times less than a BCer gets. It's only five tickets more than what we already get. If this was your game, Bballer. You would treat the people, who made your game popular, that badly? That doesn't make sense to me.
@Bballer
Your second comment doesn't make sense.
@Assassin
The "what have vets. done to deserve anything?" question, isn't that bad of a question. But I have an answer, the Vets. made Roblox popular when it was "just a wee little site". Why wouldn't they deserve anything? Even the ones that don't play, they still made an account and made Roblox more popular. Vets. made Roblox popular, and they need something in return. 'Cause if they didn't join, then there would not be nearly as many people on Roblox as there are now, and that's not just because THEY didn't join, but because their not joining would have made other people join, which would make OTHER people not join. Get what I mean?
@DarkCheeseDark
You are exactly right, that's the exact same thing that I said at the beginning of the thread. Kids are so impatient that THEY can't wait long enough to get VB, so they get BC instead.
@Zombo
I must say that I don't think that that's quite enough. It is similar to what Assassin said, about the "getting more the longer you play", Which is the basis of what VB is. The Veterans have been here a long time, so they get more.
@DrHenryWaltonJonesJr
This is absurd. Maybe the reason is that we can't buy it, or it's not worth it, or maybe it's to more than we need. I think I know why people buy BC. It's 'cause they are, at heart, more greedy than non-BCer's. They can't live without BC, they have to WASTE a valuable $5.95 on BC. People think that it's worth it, but let me tell you, you get a lot more for $5.95 on Ru ne sc ape than you do on Roblox. three reasons why I don't get BC -
1) I don't even have $5.95
2) To me, it's definetly not worth it. (tell me, when you don't even own $5.95, would you find it worth it to spend it on something that doesn't even last five weeks.)
3) I don't need every thing that BC gives, I would be content with what I have suggested in VB.
Are those good enough reasons why?
@jimmy
For some reason, I have a feeling that you haven't read anything except the first post. 'cause I believe I have said many times before that we (non-BCer's) already get 1 Robux. Ten tickets = 1 Robux. Does that make sense to you? It doesn't make sense to me, becuase why would we ask four the same amount of money that we already get. Besides, if we get 5 Robux, the BCer's still get 3x more than us. Right now, they get 15x more. Besides, how do you expect to buy anything with 1 Robux, when every thing worth buying is one HUNDRED Robux? I have FOUR HUNDRED EIGHTY-NINE tickets, right now. I have been saving up for almost two months. Some of you might think "WOW, that's a LOT.", But if I use the Currency Exchange, all those tickets end up to be 50 Robux. Do you remember what I said about ". . . every thing worth buying is one HUNDRED Robux."? Almost two months of saving up (for a non-BCer) is no where near enough to get anything cool. If we got 5 Robux, instead of 10 Tickets, then it would still take us 20 days to get something cool. Here is a reply to the same thing you said . . .
"We already do get 1 Robux, if you look at my other thread "Non-BCer's are important too!", then you'll know what I'm talking about, because 10 tickets IS the same as 1 robux. I thought 5 robux seemed reasonable because
If . . .
Non-BCer's get 5 Robux
and . . .
BCer's get 15 Robux
[T]BCer's get 35 Robux
[O]BCer's get 60 Robux
The gaps between money are similar, 5 Robux is 10 Robux less than 15, and 15 is 20 less than 35, and 35 is 25 less than 60.
Plus we already do use the currency exchange, otherwise we wouldn't be able to buy what meager things we've bought, seeing as most of the stuff is in Robux. If most of the stuff is in Robux, why make a non-BCer's income be in Tickets? And if most everything is extremely exspencive, why make a non-BCer's income so low?
Am I the only one who thinks 1 Robux is extremely low?
Anything you see that's worth 1 Robux IS worth 1 Robux, in other words, stuff that is 1 Robux isn't even worth buying. The coolest thing I saw (and the cheapest I could find in Robux) was the "Ninja mask of Shadows", which is 12 Robux. To buy it, it would take me 12 days to get enough money. With 5 Robux I could get it in 3 days, BCer's can get 1 the first day they see it, [T]BCer's can get 2 the first day, and last, and most rediculous, [O]Bcer's can get 4 the first day. In our current state . . .
non-BCer's get 1 in 12 days
Bcer's get 12 in 12 days
[T]Bcer's get 24 in 12 days
[O]BCer's get 48 in 12 days
Do you see the drastic difference?"
I hope I have convinced you.
Yeah, I think a way to help improve it would be like this -
1) A person makes an account.
2) That persons gets one "Day" the first time he logs in, every 24 hours.
3) After the person logs in 365 times, he gets the veteran badge, and VB (if ROBLOX goes throught with it.)
This solves the problem of people that never play getting the veteran Badge, and VB. Because it's just like the way you get money (if your a Non-BCer), the first time you log in, every 24 hours, you get 10 tickets. Understand?
1) I believe I have said before that, ROBLOX get close to (or more than) 600,000$ a month, I don't think he's hurting for money.
2) This is a little bit bigger problem. I do the Ambassador program (or whatever it's called), which means (I'm sure you all know), that I advertise Roblox on other sites, and then ROBLOX gives me 2 tickets for each working advertisement. I get a total of 14 tickets a day (assuming that I log in every day, which I don't). I have been saving up tickets for about 4 months. So right now, I have 696 tickets (most of you probably think that is a lot, and I'm sure it is, for a Non-BCer), but do you know what all those tickets amount to? 81 Robux (if I use the trade currency). If we, eventually, are able to buy places, but we only get 10 tickets every log in, then we will be waiting for about 6 months (which let me remind you that, that is half the time it takes to be a Veteran) to be able to buy ONE. That seems to me the best reason for giving us 5 Robux, instead of 1 ('cause 10 tickets = 1 Robux), every log in. Now you must remember that VB, is only for Veterans, so not all Not-BCer's will be getting this. So to those people that are saying "If we got 5 Robux a day, then I wouldn't buy BC.", if you are not a Veteran, then there is no point in saying that, because you wouldn't get it yet, you will have to wait a year like every body else. I hope you catch my drift, because I'm gonna leave it at that and go onto something else.
I don't disagree with everything you said, Chaos. I do agree on BCer's getting VB because the point of VB is to distinguish those, from the rest of the croud, the ones who have been with Roblox a long time. So I'm all for BCer's getting VB, because VB isn't like buying BC. Anyone can buy BC. If they are new to the game, they can buy BC. If they are a Veteran, they can buy BC. But time and Patience is the only way you can get VB. And I believe that those people who can't buy BC, but still stayed on Roblox, should be the main ones rewarded (I'm not saying this for myself, I am pretty content). 'Cause Veteran Non-BCer's, they only have the scraps that have fallen from the rich man's table. They played Roblox for a year with what little they have, and yet, still played Roblox (yet again, I am not saying this for myself).
I will say again that I agree with BCer's getting VB. Then the "Ranking system" (I guess you could call it a "Ranking system", but it has nothing to do with some people being better than others, it has to do with how much people get) would be like this. From lowest to highest -
Non-BC = 1 Robux
Vet. Non-BC = 5 Robux
BC = 15 Robux
Vet. BC = 25 Robux
TBC = 35 Robux
Vet. TBC = 50 Robux
OBC = 60 Robux
Vet. OBC = 80 Robux
Once again, this has nothing to do with some people being better than others it just has to do with how much they get. Now, everyone might notice that all the Vets. don't get 5 more than the original, some have more, I will explain. Let's start with this, If someone walked up to a Non-BCer, and said "I'm gonna give you 5 Robux", then the Non-BCer's might be over joyed, because it takes him five days to get that much Robux. But if someone walked up to a OBCer, and said "I'm gonna give you 5 Robux.", then the OBCer would probably find it dumb, 'cause he makes 6 times that much every day. Do you get what I mean. So I decided that a Vet. Non-BCer should get 5 more Robux than a Reg. Non-BCer. And a Vet. BCer should get 10 more Robux than a Reg. BCer. And a Vet. TBCer should get 15 more Robux than a Reg. TBCer. And finally, a Vet. OBCer should get 20 more Robux than a Reg. OBCer. So NOW, every Vet. has a large benefit compared to Regular person of the same sort.
I also agree on the number places you chose, Chaos, for people with VB.
I've changed it from Non-BC Veterans to all Veterans.
it might be a little unfair to newer players, but I had to leave the option of people buying BC open, 'cause if it was for everyone, then no one would buy BC."
I thought it would be a good idea to put them all together, because then people won't miss a lot of the stuff I've said. |