crome60
#184672084Thursday, March 03, 2016 3:28 AM GMT

Bernie is making promises that he wont be able to deliver upon and will probably end up putting us into much more debt than we're already in.
romuluz
#184672202Thursday, March 03, 2016 3:31 AM GMT

It's actually true that he won't be able to deliver on most of his promises. The man's even said so himself. He's more of a stepping stone and a way to spread and prove his ideology. As for the debt, most of his plans are estimated to at least cover their cost or even bring profit to the govt.
Necrosys
#184675373Thursday, March 03, 2016 4:28 AM GMT

"You're a bigger idiot than trump, if we vote for nobody.... then someone like hillary will win because sub humans will regardless of the thief she is vote for her." "You're a bigger idiot than trump" "You're a bigger idiot than trump" "You're a bigger idiot than trump" I find this extremely ironic. Glad 12 year olds cant vote.
Flammavir
#184675441Thursday, March 03, 2016 4:30 AM GMT

it's technically the least worst out of all the candidates so SALAM.
romuluz
#184675489Thursday, March 03, 2016 4:30 AM GMT

^ He's smart but politics isn't his strongsuit. Calling him an all around idiot would be a fallacy but he shouldn't be in politics. That's for certain.
incommensurabilities
#184706548Thursday, March 03, 2016 11:40 PM GMT

Why I don't like Trump, just watch this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9-5DJhBh6M
Poorlawn
#184707027Thursday, March 03, 2016 11:48 PM GMT

okay lets look at all 5 or 6 countries whats the success rate between: Venezuela Colombia USSR the Eastern Bloc Sweden Norway Denmark Canada China North Korea probably some african and asian countries i dont know about definitely some more south american ones that arent coming to mind
incommensurabilities
#184707739Thursday, March 03, 2016 11:59 PM GMT

"...with the terrorists, you have to take out their families." - Trump Genocide. The deliberate killing of people.
romuluz
#184708068Friday, March 04, 2016 12:05 AM GMT

Poorlawn. Again most of those countries that did fall apart(Asside from the ones that I already mentioned applying it successfully had completely different economic setups than the US does or than Canada does, etc. You just cannot compare a communist country, or even more hilariously, a rather insane, isolated country to a capitalist-socialist country to prove a point. It just does not work, lol. There were many other facets such as oppression, absence of a free market free wages across the board, political corruption, etc. that led to their collapse/poor economic standing. The implication of govt. provided affordable healthcare does not suddenly make us communist, it only adds a SOCIALISTIC system to an economy that is ALREADY Capitalist-Socialist. The fact that I have to re-iterate this after you seemingly understood the difference between Soviet Russia and the US is absolutely hilarious.
romuluz
#184708186Friday, March 04, 2016 12:07 AM GMT

Furthermore, after quick research of Colombia, which you seemingly brought up as a poor example, actually isn't doing that bad, lol. They're neither a wealthy country but they're also not exactly an impoverished country.
Centauri07
#184710333Friday, March 04, 2016 12:45 AM GMT

Really the only thing about Sanders that I do find myself liking is that he /appears/ to genuinely care. He wants to help. He wants to make things better. However I disagree with a lot of his policies and honestly, like it was mentioned several times previously, they likely won't see the light of day either in Congress. One guy I really like is named Ben Shapiro. And he kinda puts into words what my views are better than I can myself. He gets interviewed by Dave Rubin and the interview is divided up into sections. The link: https://www.youtu be.com/watch?v=h30n-1Y4nD4 added a space just in case. About 2:50 mark is where they start about the election politics. And about at 9:55 is when Bernie is brought up and is talked about here or there for the remainder of the video. He's also brought up at 14:00. Progressive tax is brought up at 16:40.
Centauri07
#184710438Friday, March 04, 2016 12:47 AM GMT

After rewatching the whole thing, most of what we're mainly discussing in this thread is mentioned at about the 16 minute mark.
SorenStrike
#184710458Friday, March 04, 2016 12:47 AM GMT

Democratic socialism =/= socialism Read more about it :^) -- master diesoft of sweden school u ohohohohohoh1! !! ! 1 !!!!1 1
calxeb
#184710485Friday, March 04, 2016 12:48 AM GMT

aGREED. glory to veldari
incommensurabilities
#184710517Friday, March 04, 2016 12:48 AM GMT

Don't know who to vote for... They're all crazy to an extent and you can't please everyone.
Centauri07
#184710598Friday, March 04, 2016 12:50 AM GMT

"Democratic socialism =/= socialism Read more about it" "The goal of socialism is communism." -Vladimir Lenin ~|~
SorenStrike
#184710803Friday, March 04, 2016 12:53 AM GMT

"The goal of socialism is communism." -Vladimir Lenin -- he was the leader of a communist country and a communist party of course he'd say that. but you're not making any sense either and ur just ignoring the fact that democratic socialism =/= socialism
robepriority
#184711085Friday, March 04, 2016 12:57 AM GMT

This just turned into a discussion about Trump, didn't it.
robepriority
#184711157Friday, March 04, 2016 12:59 AM GMT

Huh, jumped to conclusions, sorry.
Centurians
#184719518Friday, March 04, 2016 3:12 AM GMT

I am so glad your votes are only a few out of millions and millions. Because you guys stink at this. Centurians | Rionan | Qiaolian | Pyrante | Send me trades on 8.3M+ in limiteds, am upgrading!
incommensurabilities
#184720230Friday, March 04, 2016 3:26 AM GMT

^ You stink at this too. Glad you're only one out of millions.
romuluz
#184723726Friday, March 04, 2016 4:43 AM GMT

Last, Bernie's actually getting lots of support. Bernie's got a pretty decent shot at winning this. And Trump lost to both Hillary and Bernie in a recent CNN poll. Chances are we're either going to be seeing a president Clinton or a president Sanders come November.
Fauxtillion
#184764899Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:22 AM GMT

ready for hillary tbh
incommensurabilities
#184764978Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:23 AM GMT

hillary for the starbucks fans
SorenStrike
#184814093Saturday, March 05, 2016 9:15 PM GMT

hillary is a joke lol