BenBonezJoin Date: 2008-08-29
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Devin the only thing that gives you room to talk trash is the sad fact that you used click bait games to get a "status" and even with an original game created ENTIRELY by OTHERS you are struggling
Yeah but get butt mad when other people organized something purely for the fun of it and not far "hehe them mad profits hehe"
Mega saddo
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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it's not a click bait game
it's a battle place that's 10 times better than yours. you are delusional if you think you have created fighting battle places. those were around before 2010 and they were directly inspired by the likes of miked, person299 and havemeat who pioneered the whole genre of 'minigames'.
if this reality upsets you so much, please make a 10 tix shirt and ill donate some money to you to ease the butthurt. |
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devin can u explain how RCL is dead |
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BenBonezJoin Date: 2008-08-29
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Yeah Devin anyone should be able to tell you are not every intellectual I mean I wrote barely 3 sentences and you couldn't even extract the context out of that.
I never said that that place was a click bait game I said you gained your visits and status from click bait games (hence the immense amount of dislikes).
I said the game it is now was create entirely by others, you have absolutely no skill to bring to the table which is sad considering he joined 2008.
I never implied I invented fighting games, it's sad how you guys invested that much time in trying to mildly word it annoy me by essentially copying elements of my place and translate them into sword fighting.
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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@Conducter
it's no longer a standard in clans and the popularity of it dwindled down even looking at it just in the past year. if ben doesn't mind i'd like for him to post monthly statistics on his place to see what the activity trend for it has been since january of last year.
@Ben
marketing is a skill too. if it weren't, then even under your ownership, rcl battlegrounds would've amounted to something in game development. if you feel as though we've copied something from your place, and the claims are reasonable, you are free to meet me in-game and we can see what we can do about it. don't waste my time telling me we copied your place though. the genre our places both belong to has already been invented long ago and you made no innovations to it for me to copy. |
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BenBonezJoin Date: 2008-08-29
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@Devin
>"it's no longer a standard in clans and the popularity of it dwindled down even looking at it just in the past year."
What constitutes a standard in clans? Everyone knows of RCL, pretty much all clans that use some form of guns other than those in another era use RCL even those outside of C&G.
>"if ben doesn't mind i'd like for him to post monthly statistics on his place to see what the activity trend for it has been since january of last year. "
Jesus you are thick, I don't care what activity Battlegrounds has I'm not some profit mongering idiot I created my places for fun not for profits.
>"marketing is a skill too"
Hah Devin the thing is in real world Marketing you can't just blatantly lie into people faces without facing some form of repercussion, it's laughable that you think you have marketing skills by buying crappy ads and thumbnails that weren't based on your ideas.
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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rcl is well known in clans, there's not denying that. anything produced by wij typically garners quite a bit of popularity. the argument isn't that people don't know what rcl is in groups, they do, they just don't use it as frequently. while back in 2013 we had a generation of clans all participating in final battles to finalize war outcomes, we no longer see the same things today. the majority of strong clans dropped the use of rcl and final battle teams altogether.
i ask for your developer statistics not to see how much you make, but to see the traffic the place produces since it correlates with the popularity of your product.
i don't entirely understand your last point. a lot of places come down to marketing rather than actual gameplay, and knowing how to use the system is essential in producing front page products. it's the reason behind the successes of mad studios and people like bereeza, jaredvaldez and many others in the history of this game. you may look down at it and think that it's not fair, but hey, it's the way game development works. quality matters, but how you sell what your game offers matters too. |
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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on another note, i think i should also mention that i hate the similarities my place has with yours. those similarities only relate to the construction style and color scheme of the lobby (absolutely nothing else). i don't like the gray minimalist style for the lobby, it's not something that fares well with most players, but i can't build myself and the builder who we do have has a background in clans and perceives battle places more as holo facilities rather than front page minigame places. |
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http://www.roblox.com/games/?Keyword=Rcl
RCL is popular and it has made the blog a few times
no doubt it's known and used by a couple of PMCs
however there are few actual clans that would use RCL and you know it, most would just use their own tech
as for final battles those are more drama then they're worth
mercs, lag switching, complaints over the victor, etc
however RCL as a product is very popular and has an active community
in not even 24 hours of the tournament being announced 7 teams have been made and most of the teams are user made, groups of friends entered this for fun and even without them being user made we've garnered the attention of fear and a few vaktovians who would like to make teams |
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BenBonezJoin Date: 2008-08-29
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>"the majority of strong clans dropped the use of rcl and final battle teams altogether."
Couldn't be more incorrect aside from the decrease in Final Battles. RCL is used as a training platform by pretty much every major clan out there.
>"i ask for your developer statistics not to see how much you make, but to see the traffic the place produces since it correlates with the popularity of your product. "
Yes and that's exactly why it's idiotic, Battlegrounds isn't RCL it's a game based on RCL.
RCL are the thousands of places owned by others using it:
http://www.roblox.com/games/?Keyword=rcl
Call me when you stop scrolling.
>"i don't entirely understand your last point. a lot of places come down to marketing rather than actual gameplay, and knowing how to use the system is essential in producing front page products. it's the reason behind the successes of mad studios and people like bereeza, jaredvaldez and many others in the history of this game."
Yeah let's ignore that Mad Studios has always been creating quality games, Bereeza is debatable but he has certainly always put effort into his.
The only one you can compare yourself to is jaredvaldez, also a click bait game creator disliked by the community.
I think arguing about ethics with you is pointless you are clearly in it for personal gain not to create fun and memorable experiences for others. So yeah my dude keep up the great "marketing" and chase that big number if you so desire it.
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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conducter, there's no real ambiguity in regards to popular a place is. benbonez is more than welcome to share his developer statistics, for us to actually interpret how popular the battleground is and how popular it has been over the years. |
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BenBonezJoin Date: 2008-08-29
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Yeah hold up Devin I'ma just log into a few thousand accounts and compile an Excel shoot of their RCL places visits to add them up
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BenBonezJoin Date: 2008-08-29
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In a nutshell:
Devin does not understand that RCL is an open source platform used in ten-thousands of places and thinks when we refer to RCL we talk about a game that is using the RCL weaponry.
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willing to substitute
im a good player
sf me if you want to see me fight
message me for a secret =) |
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creeper this isn't swords it's RCL bro |
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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the real active groups and even the tryhard powerclans no longer favour the use of rcl. if your argument is that they are still using it, but for practice, than it should make your battlegrounds place more popular in return. please post your developer statistics for proof. previous tournaments like jc's battle league were far more popular than this one, the same could be said about the matches of the time like wijst vs stonemen in comparison to what there is now.
sending me pages of inactive rcl places that have one weekly visit on average (tops) doesn't support your argument at all. it's also quite laughable of you to discuss my antics for marketing my partrick obstacle course which i liked several years ago when you use your place to bully others, kick people for personal nonsensical reasons and piss on the product which was given to you by wij by adding in secret (and remarkably easy to detect by the way - took us 2 seconds) to detect admin scripts. please, don't paint a narrative of you being some sort of a ethical justice warrior. you are using someone else's product and have an authority complex which even i, someone who doesn't care about you at all, got to hear about.
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this tournament will be the most popular RCL tournament when it's finished devin
wanna bet |
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BenBonezJoin Date: 2008-08-29
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>"the real active groups and even the tryhard powerclans no longer favour the use of rcl. if your argument is that they are still using it, but for practice, than it should make your battlegrounds place more popular in return"
No it should not you buffoon, why would clans practice at Battlegrounds where they have absolutely no control over the training proceedings? Battlegrounds is for practicing solo if anything and that's what it's used for.
>"previous tournaments like jc's battle league were far more popular than this one, the same could be said about the matches of the time like wijst vs stonemen in comparison to what there is now. "
What's that even supposed to mean are you an idiot? Whoever said this tournament was trying to be the next JCBL? Not every tournament has to out do the one that came before it. The 2nd JCBL which was organized by me outdid the 1st one, hence why we got on the Blog. The 2nd time we got mentioned on the blog was a serious of organized scrimmages between elite divisions which also outdid the one you mentioned.
>"your place to bully others, kick people for personal nonsensical reasons"
Oh boy this again, I have to automatically assume someone is ignorant when they throw that at me. I'm allowed to whatever I want at my own place whether you like it or not.
>"adding in secret (and remarkably easy to detect by the way - took us 2 seconds) to detect admin scripts"
You mean putting an admin script into ServerScriptService is hiding it? Honestly are you dumb? It's supposed to take effort of your hands and is literally mentioned in the guide used to set up an RCL place.
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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if rcl is more widespread among groups, it translates to place visits at your map, since people would naturally want to improve themselves outside of the scope of training. the developer statistics which you are so hesitant of proving are repetitiveness of rcls popularity trend. jcbl and the caliber of rcl matches in the past in comparison to now go to show how the use of rcl dwindled in the past several years. someone who vouches for ethics in game development wouldn't use the excuse that since it's his place, he could abuse players all he'd like. you bully people using your place, yet pretend as if my antics are in the wrong for marketing my obstacle course to regular players. how can you piss on others from your minuscule position of power and try to assume the moral high-ground against me? |
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Ben why are you arguing with an RI member??
waste of time tbh |
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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are representative*
furthermore, it won't be as difficult as you think to compile the traffic produced by the hundreds of rcl prices since the vast majority of them produce no traffic at all.
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BenBonezJoin Date: 2008-08-29
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Yeah it's kind of pointless he doesn't understand that Battlegrounds isn't advertised hence it's unlikely that people would go there to practice solo if they've never even heard of it.
He is trying hard to compare his click bait boosted game to mine that he spends hours upon hours everyday in maintaining with several other people when it's not even of relevance.
wannabet hahaha
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"http://www.roblox.com/games/?Keyword=rcl
Call me when you stop scrolling."
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Get to the point. |
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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people in clans know what the battlegrounds place is. the more important it becomes for clan members to be good with rcl, the greater the incentive for clan members to visit your place. our place has no advertisements either. it is more popular and is by far better built and better scripted than the rcl battlegrounds. |
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BenBonezJoin Date: 2008-08-29
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Great work my dude, you have barely outdone a game that is 2 years old and still needed to copy most of the core concept!
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