MohxyJoin Date: 2010-12-20
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Each year, the # of defenders required to defend continues to raise. We're at a point where clans are requiring the same amount of defenders to raiders.
Since we've raised official counts, clans now are forced to dismiss more people, not only does this cause problems within the group, it's just silly that we're on a game to play & some people aren't even able to play the game for what it is anymore. We've also had to request admins to kick random raiders. That random raider could've started to get interested in clans, now that he's banned, he's lost interest & the clan community has lost another potentially active member.
On top of those two reasons, allies not counting towards official or only counting as 0.5, will not be that big of an issue anymore.
Few examples of # of official increasing over the years,
WIJ 4 to 6.
RAA 6 to 8.
SF 6 to 8.
FC 5 to 8.
VAK requires 15v15s now
TGI/FoA 5 or 6 to now 8
TRA 6 to 9
It hasn't been one clan raising their official counts, it has been mainly every relevant group on this game. |
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xGuestLieJoin Date: 2012-06-24
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"TRA 6 to 9" :3 69
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the same could be said for the defending side though. if the count was lowered, raiders would mass flood so only 5 defenders are allowed in the base.
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MohxyJoin Date: 2010-12-20
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I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say.
Could you rephrase that? |
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It's supposed to be a low number. |
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Ran502Join Date: 2012-01-29
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@Aug
If minimum defender counts were lowered, then bases that are easier to defend would be more acceptable because raiders have much higher numbers. |
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MohxyJoin Date: 2010-12-20
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What is? |
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I'm keeping mine the same no matter what. |
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your argument is that if we lower the defender count, more people will be able to raid. the problem is, that just means the less amount of defenders that can defend, therefore switching the problem of people not being able to play the game to the opposite end of the spectrum.
not to mention that lowering the defender count only makes it even harder for the defenders to win.
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The number of defenders required to defend forts are supposed to be a lot lower compared to raiders.
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Honestly the skill of the average gunfighter in clans is going up, so to make it a more fair battle then we have to even the numbers. You can't expect a 6v14 at stronghold or a 8v22 at a base and call it a fair fight for the defenders. Also, clans are using mostly their elites to raid, not the main group anymore which also adds to the problem *COUGH* RAT
If clans raided with their main groups *COUGH* SC then it'd be an incentive for bases to be lower defenders required. |
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Want to know what caused that to happen? All that complaining about fairness. |
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it also depends on the server size |
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@devin, i think that idea is stupid because nowadays raiding has just become "who can preflood a server first."
numbers really do matter, even if you are the most skills clan alive, you arent going to win 5v20.
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MohxyJoin Date: 2010-12-20
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That's what I'm arguing devin.
VOID always having 6 for official at 8C is a good example if that's what you're trying to say. |
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HulkrazJoin Date: 2012-08-11
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is 10 minimum defender count fair in a 30 player server? |
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GlowningJoin Date: 2013-01-29
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ok |
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MohxyJoin Date: 2010-12-20
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Shinedown,
Yes, that matters too but all the clans I've listed have had the same server size.
@bballer,
Losing shouldn't matter. |
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MohxyJoin Date: 2010-12-20
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Yes, hulk, I'd say that's fair since raiders have 2:1 advantage. |
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iRun101Join Date: 2013-04-18
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its 7 for official 1 of those members just need to be wolf squad |
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HulkrazJoin Date: 2012-08-11
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ok Mohxy now is it fair at OO Rhodes with a 1:2 ratio |
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MohxyJoin Date: 2010-12-20
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Even 10 is pretty high though but since you're talking about Rhodes which is pretty even in terms of spawns, that's why I said it was fair. |
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i miss the forts back in the day where you could drop in and raid/defend for a little, with no one complaining or waiting for a server to go official or anything, and then leaving after and coming back and raiding/defending again
constantly raided forts/forts that play more like games than clan forts is what we need
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