Real4207bJoin Date: 2013-09-28
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Original post: http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=185708841
Before you say "tl;dr" and flare me, stop yourself. This takes less than 5 minutes to read, child.
--This is the TIX portion, scroll down to see R15--
Removing tix is indeed the biggest leap ROBLOX has ever made, but it's the most important one. ROBLOX's virtual economy is a huge portion of the platform. In the past years, there has been a HUGE inflation, because LMaDers and developers manipulating tickets to be worth nothing.
Removing tickets will fix ROBLOX's economy. The trade currency ratio is 20 tickets for 1 ROBUX, when it used to be 8 tickets for 1 ROBUX. Bots were also used for the daily login bonus.
You're going to say "oh but what about the NBCers?" NBC users won't get daily login bonuses anymore, but they will still be rewarded (with ROBUX, mind you) for doing other things on the site or in-game, like badges for ROBUX.
If you claim that ROBLOX is greedy or I'm greedy because I'm OBC, that's where you're wrong. ROBLOX uses every penny it makes to help improve the platform. It has to pay for huge servers, employees, an office, developers, and much much more. You may say they do keep money, yes, but in the long run it all comes back to help the platform. I'm not greedy if I have OBC, because I'm spending $20 per month to help ROBLOX. It's YOU guys who are greedy for wanting free things without contributing to the platform at all.
As for developers, they're not hit at all. Sponsored games use ROBUX, not tickets. Their income from tickets counts for less than 5% of the money they earn. DevEx uses ROBUX, not tickets. Your favorite developers like loleris, taymastar, litozinnamon, and CloneTrooper1019, aren't affected at all.
If you're still concerned about buying clothes on the catalog, keep in mind that many items are free and will be free in the future. The price floor was also lowered to 5 ROBUX.
--R15--
R15 is another huge but important update for ROBLOX. Going from lego people to realistic packages to bending limbs has been very controversial on ROBLOX in the old community. But, ROBLOX isn't your friendly lego-like company anymore. ROBLOX is striving for REALISM now. Look at some examples (not in order):
-Smooth Terrain
-Terrain Biome Generation
-Custom Particles
-Shaders (see the hack week blog)
-3.0 Characters
-Neon Materials
R15 is up next on that list.
As an animator, I'm very fond with people having used bending limbs in ROBLOX characters before. I myself didn't use them, but I knew how they worked. People loved animations like that. I don't understand why it can't be the same for ROBLOX.
If you say it's ugly, keep in mind that the demo is a very bad demo. It's a heavy WIP and many improvements will come in the future. The gap between parts will be filled. It'll be reanimated. Hats and packages and clothing will work.
Again, ROBLOX is striving for realism now. This is one of the most realistic things that ROBLOX has to offer yet. Animators will be given more freedom to make realistic animations. Clothes designers will be given something better to work with. Human gestures will make it realistic, as well as clothing.
If you still are unconvinced, keep in mind that you have the option to choose between R15 and R6.
Now you're finally at the bottom of the thread. If you have any inquiries or comments, please reply. Also, check out these threads:
http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=154895725
http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=158496651
Thanks for reading.
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MvgnificoJoin Date: 2013-07-31
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Not a suggestion.
The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma |
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Real4207bJoin Date: 2013-09-28
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The reason why it's in S&I is to tell people to stop posting these crapposts. |
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tl:dr
Is there a short version? |
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tl;dr
Is there a short version? |
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I read the whole thing. It didn't take more than 2 minutes. |
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Real4207bJoin Date: 2013-09-28
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people who say 'tl;dr' are lazy |
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I read all of this, unlike some people who are too lazy to take 2 minutes from their day to read.
I agree with this statement completely. I honestly thought people would like the whole R15 thing when it was announced on the blog, but NOOOOPE. Just like every other awesome thing they do and spend a lot of time working on, nobody appreciates it.
And the tix removal. why are people still trying to bring them back? It's not going to work, so they can stop trying. They served no huge purpose other than giving people free stuff just for logging in (as you stated). But now that they are gone, I hope people become more encouraged to create stuff (which is what the ROBLOX platform is meant for), which people should know is the only way they can earn robux without paying.
Your statement was very well written and I can't agree more. |
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Real4207bJoin Date: 2013-09-28
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@attomic The post wasn't actually writen by me, their is an original thread stating this, I only reposted it to make people shush. |
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oh.
I still agree completely though |
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Real4207bJoin Date: 2013-09-28
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@attomic Alright
@people who say tl;dr
read the post |
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MENG0SJoin Date: 2011-08-19
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Am I the only one who respects this thread? |
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MENG0SJoin Date: 2011-08-19
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ah nevermind |
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ScootrbroJoin Date: 2008-04-12
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2lazy2read |
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People don't know any of this because they are too lazy to read a lot of text in one place. That needs to be fixed |
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Real4207bJoin Date: 2013-09-28
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@attomic agreed |
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Giving out free R$ will just inflate R$. It's not fixing the economy. It's just refreshing it. It ultimately doesn't change anything except it removes its buffer (tickets) and just starts inflating R$ instead. Eventually it will have all the same problems as tickets did, because the new staff can't figure out a way to break the cycle.
Break the cycle. Support R$ fission: https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=187915896
I am aware it is relatively unknown how ROBLOX is going to handle their R$ rewards system and gift system, but if they just create R$ out of thin air it shows that they haven't learned from their mistakes. And even so, the economy is pretty much stagnant right now so they'll still leaving themselves unguarded.
And about your R15:
ROBLOX isn't striving for realism, they just want to up their aesthetics. If they were striving for realism, they wouldn't skipped the new joints and just made ROBLOXians look like real people.
Just like their other upcoming updates, it all depends on how they handle it.
Yes, people don't understand this is a transitional period for ROBLOX, but no one knows what exactly we're transitioning into.
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matmat109Join Date: 2009-05-25
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"It has to pay for huge servers"
For the love of Christ and all that's holy they said they weren't struggling with finances!
"Roblox is striving for realism."
You mean oderism? |
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mat. "oderism"
Why does everyone call everything "ODer" stuff
it's dumb and annoying |
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"Removing tix is indeed the biggest leap ROBLOX has ever made, but it's the most important one. ROBLOX's virtual economy is a huge portion of the platform. In the past years, there has been a HUGE inflation, because LMaDers and developers manipulating tickets to be worth nothing."
Then punish THEM, not everyone on ROBLOX.
"Removing tickets will fix ROBLOX's economy. The trade currency ratio is 20 tickets for 1 ROBUX, when it used to be 8 tickets for 1 ROBUX. Bots were also used for the daily login bonus."
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"You're going to say 'oh but what about the NBCers?' NBC users won't get daily login bonuses anymore, but they will still be rewarded (with ROBUX, mind you) for doing other things on the site or in-game, like badges for ROBUX."
They could have just done this with TIX and nothing would be different.
"If you claim that ROBLOX is greedy or I'm greedy because I'm OBC, that's where you're wrong. ROBLOX uses every penny it makes to help improve the platform. It has to pay for huge servers, employees, an office, developers, and much much more. You may say they do keep money, yes, but in the long run it all comes back to help the platform. I'm not greedy if I have OBC, because I'm spending $20 per month to help ROBLOX. It's YOU guys who are greedy for wanting free things without contributing to the platform at all."
ROBLOX said themselves that they were completely in the black when implementing this update and that this was not about money at all.
And people aren't greedy for wanting to be treated like human beings. The subscription model of MMOs is dying. It's time to move on, not restrict even more. If you treat me like crap don't expect me to buy anything from you.
"As for developers, they're not hit at all. Sponsored games use ROBUX, not tickets. Their income from tickets counts for less than 5% of the money they earn. DevEx uses ROBUX, not tickets. Your favorite developers like loleris, taymastar, litozinnamon, and CloneTrooper1019, aren't affected at all."
It seems as if you think only big devs are devs. Let me let you in on a little secret; they're not. There are several smaller devs out there who did not use microtransactions and gamepasses to make money off their game, instead using the allure of the game. That is what made games back then so good, and it's what makes new games boring beyond belief.
"If you're still concerned about buying clothes on the catalog, keep in mind that many items are free and will be free in the future. The price floor was also lowered to 5 ROBUX."
Lowering the price floor and free items does not excuse being ostracized from the economic process. |
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I'm in support of R15 so I won't say anything in regards to that. |
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