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ForTheShire
#189297777Tuesday, May 17, 2016 10:21 PM GMT

but if a fc member is teamed to ws, why have the rule anyways??????? there, now nobody else can ask it.
Utsuroido
#189297783Tuesday, May 17, 2016 10:21 PM GMT

most of the time even if there is no ws an admin will just team someone to ws unless whatever clan is raiding is cancer or being rude
assassin_lord
#189298334Tuesday, May 17, 2016 10:29 PM GMT

"unless whatever clan is raiding is cancer or being rude" selective teaming! no but what hunter said, i don't think there's any reason to still have it as the original reason was to counter VAK not having VAC count as defenders in like 2011-2012.
SuddenRush12G
#189313027Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:39 AM GMT

Everyone seems to bring up my primary. To be honest, I don't even care what most of you idiots even say. But, I will defend FEAR as I have been apart of the group for five years. I was also a prominent member of the community (former High Command) until I decided to leave before school started this year. I also have many reasons to stay in FEAR. These reasons include helping the clan as best as I can, friends, and memories.
pwner195
#189313225Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:43 AM GMT

FEAR doesnt rely on a script for a leader(s) to be in the server lol
assassin_lord
#189315049Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:20 AM GMT

right only has it so 1st rank don't count as defenders
pwner195
#189315685Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:34 AM GMT

well if u werent all scumbags who joined our team on alts and stuff we wouldnt have to do that!
assassin_lord
#189318643Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:54 AM GMT

then how can you call out fc for doing the same thing -_____-
pwner195
#189323880Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:14 AM GMT

I understand youre not very smart but please do try to understand that those are 2 completely different things! and you can expect recruits to go back to being .5 instead of 0 in the near future most likely. :^)
Alexander0312
#189323924Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:17 AM GMT

Obvious it's beacuse WS bows deal 0.1 more damage.
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#189324051Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:22 AM GMT

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igoing2win
#189324607Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:46 AM GMT

idk ghostops maybe TRA should require 1 elite highrank to defend for raids to be offici- oh wait we don't take the game that seriously then brag about how we don't take the game seriously @fc
5ancu
#189326464Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:20 PM GMT

"clans such as tra dont have a trae rule" no one really needs to use alts to make servers official at your fort, because it's genuinely never hard to win at, not necessarily because of fairness, but because of the overall skill level of tra members. no hard feelings "clans like uaf dont have a rule like that" no one really needs to use alts to make servers official at uaf's fort, because it's genuinely never hard to win at, because of the overall skill level of uaf members. "foa doesnt" more exclusive clan, harder to get alts in "raa doesnt" more exclusive clan, harder to get alts in [2]
YumoriZatsuken
#189326594Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:25 PM GMT

agreeing on what 5ancu said
IntenseSnows
#189326632Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:27 PM GMT

"clans such as tra dont have a trae rule clans like uaf dont have a rule like that foa doesnt raa doesnt" FoA and RAA are powerclans, I don't expect that they would. UAF and TRA could have a rule like this and I think that'd be okay. I've been to TRA defenses and raids since its existence and seen members complaining about alts being used to make servers official. It doesn't make the base any less fair because of a single TRAE, if TRA implemented it. I imagine there's 9/10 times a TRAE in the server anyways. In fact, let's look at the base rules! "8.) Hostile members caught using alternate or main accounts and teaming themselves onto the defending or raiding team, in order to make the server official, will be banned and the server can be shutdown if the admin available sees it fit." Hmph, alts aren't an issue...? "idk ghostops maybe TRA should require 1 elite highrank to defend for raids to be offici- oh wait we don't take the game that seriously then brag about how we don't take the game seriously @fc" Look at the fairness of the bases TRA have used in the past. We have a requirement that someone who's already going to be there should be there to ensure that we at least have a single person fighting for FC. You guys have spawned inside the base at some places. I'm seeing a huge discrepancy in taking the game seriously. FC want to fight for FC, we don't want raiders to fight for FC.
5ancu
#189328652Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:48 PM GMT

lmao intensesnows i think i get what youre saying but WHY would you want actual FC members to defend FC? it's like, i don't get it, aren't raiders defending for you GOOD ENOUGH? hmph, just seems unsatisfiable to me...pathetic FC pathetic idiotic my clan is better hmph unfair fort bows not fair pft.
assassin_lord
#189331378Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:25 PM GMT

how is teaming ws to make servers official when ur sure theres no alts are on defender team (especially when ws get in most of the time regardless, barely ever need people teamed) different. you're an idiot lol.
pwner195
#189331416Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:26 PM GMT

the script is in place to ensure they have a leader you dumbass its not about alts
pwner195
#189331434Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:27 PM GMT

or the rule Idk if its a script
assassin_lord
#189331515Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:30 PM GMT

as a matter of fact fc's system is better than fears, they can have 1 ws and 5 warriors (equivalent of recruit in fear) and make an official defense but if 5 recruits get in alianor it's impossible to make the server official earlier and you get an assload of defenders as a result. you're a joke lol. also i don't care what you *think* or *plan* to do with your recruits as defenders, the fact is those systems aren't in place now and that most raids end up with half the server being defenders and take 30 min to start make your system a bigger joke than vak's. at least they're honest about being unfair with defender requirements. :)
assassin_lord
#189331559Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:31 PM GMT

are you stupid? that is not why fc uses ws you moron IntenseSnows Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Total Posts: 10986 Frost Clan 05-17-2016 03:18 PM We're a super clan and it's easy to use alts to make servers official. VAK did this to us during our wars with them, so we made a WS rule. We have it because of the state of the current clan world. We see a lot of alts used to make servers official in every clan's base, and since we can't guarantee the clan raiding us will be playing fair, we have this rule to ensure that they don't raid against 5 or 6 of their own men's afk corpses to get their victories against us. We want FC to fight for FC, not raiders. Now, are we strict on enforcing this rule? No. If the raiders aren't pretentious and rude to us, we'll team a regular Frost Clan member to Wolf Squad. It's nothing to do with winning and losing for us, it's to do with cheating from the opponent. This is the reason, there is no other. It's not to get a "leader" in the defense (cough sel).
assassin_lord
#189331588Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:32 PM GMT

please do some research before you make baseless claims, thanks!
Lissitski
#189331628Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM GMT

War is war. We all have our conditions. People forget about the secret passages and clan-only doors that were used by other clans. Do you complain when there needs to be X amount of VAK instead of VAC included? Just deal with it. Part of the challenge or "fun" of war is surpassing those odds. The one who best surpasses those odds is what we could call a "good leader."

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