WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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One major fundamental difference between you and Legender is that he could receive help from leaders in NFC's past administrations while you cannot. Say what you will about your experience in comparison to his own - your experience pales in comparison to the experience NFC can have access to through Legender.
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ezaiahsJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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One major fundamental difference between you and Legender is that he could receive help from leaders in NFC's past administrations while you cannot. Say what you will about your experience in comparison to his own - your experience pales in comparison to the experience NFC can have access to through Legender.
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I keep trying to write a response to this
but I cant
lol
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Well given those answers I don't think you'll ever understand. The biggest cause of problems in the world: lack of understanding.
Just be content with how things are now, because they will not change.
The last thing I will say is in relation to this: "Also the first and second part of this very statement completely contradicts itself lmao."
As I suspected and warned you against, don't mistake honesty for insult. Believe it or not, I still have not said anything bad about you. I can't draw well, but when people point that out, I don't think of the observation as anything of negativity. |
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ezaiahsJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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Yes I understand your honest opinion and your views as well.
As said before I am a bit saddened
but life moves on
I am a bit angry as well, yes, mostly because nothing useful is being said on your part except how I am incapable because I don't inspire people...ya sorry I will put becoming a religious fanatic on my bucket list.
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ezaiahsJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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I shall continue to do as I have always done
Except now I have a bit more renewed vigor merely to shame you for the words that you have said tonight, thank you for that at least. I will enjoy the next few weeks
a bit more now.
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Legion1xJoin Date: 2012-04-22
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Exile this power hungry freak from NFC please |
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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That is the issue with you - you are easily offended when rightfully scrutinized and nauseously retort with egoistic responses whenever you feel challenged. Your ideas are not the greatest, which would have been fine, if you knew when to listen to other people who desire the best for the group and to shut up. Money in NFC has been virtually non-existent since the retirement of Fighters. Using that as an excuse to poor performance makes no sense when previous administrations performed far better than you have facing similar circumstances. I acknowledge that you are put in a very difficult position and while it may be true that you are not an incompetent person, you are not the person that could push NFC out of the mess that it's in right now. You've had enough time to give it a try. It would be best to let someone else tackle the issues.
If you feel otherwise then I challenge you to name one aspect in which NFC has improved in since the resignation of Fire. |
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ezaiahsJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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Yes WB when people are attacked they tend to not get on their hands and knees and beg for forgiveness.
I listen and I learn but when there Is nothing useful being said there is no reason to take it seriously, hence the "egoistic responses ". I pretty much already know there is little to glean from you other than a headache or two.
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ezaiahsJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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good idea
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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No one is asking you to drop on your hands and knees. You are being told that one of your weaknesses is being unable to properly deal with criticism. Learn to change that about yourself.
If you have everything figured out to the point where everyone's ideas are useless other than your own, how come you are the most unsuccessful leader in the history of Nightfall Clan? |
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ezaiahsJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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no sleep tonight I guess
"You are being told that one of your weaknesses is being unable to properly deal with criticism. Learn to change that about yourself. "
I deal with criticism quite well, I think about what you have to say and if I find a fault within myself I quickly correct it and move on. Unfortunately for you I will not give you a gold bar and put a tag on it that says WB told me this. This is something that annoys me as everyone seems to expect this.
"If you have everything figured out to the point where everyone's ideas are useless other than your own, how come you are the most unsuccessful leader in the history of Nightfall Clan? "
When have I ever said I have everything figured out. Nope not once! I have asked many people for their input and continue to do so. Due to a point made tonight I fixed a problem with HR communication and meetings, apparently HRs felt left out due to my terrible practices with meeting timings. I also have decided to put things into action a bit sooner rather than waiting as I have been for the past few weeks. I completely realize that I have been slow at getting things done, for that is merely my nature when it comes to things that I cannot personally move forward.
There has never been a time I have refused to hear someone out and there never will be. As I have said maybe two or three times before, the making of this thread was nothing more than a joke to me. Well I guess that's a bit of hyperbole. I have been shown that my pace is too slow thus I will be ramping it up by quite a bit, many pardons, but apart from that there was nothing else to gain.
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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You don't deal with criticism very well. You respond egoistically and brush of the concerns others express. Even in this thread you've called me out on being able to provide nothing more than a 'headache' and stated that the reasoning behind your egoistic responses is because you already know of the ideas other people have. Your counter argument to being someone who does not get easily offended when scrutinized is equal to those of a criminal who proclaims innocence for himself. They don't bear any weight.
If throughout the course of nearly 2 years you have no had the chance to come an understanding of what it is you must do to improve the group then perhaps it's time to let someone else worry about it. Do you have any counter arguments to the notion that someone else should be leading the group other than how much you enjoy having ownership of it? |
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ezaiahsJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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WB using yourself as an example simply makes no sense. I have already tried working with you and it did not work out, and after which you simply were an annoyance who loved to relish in attacks. Pardon me for my dislike of you! Your idea that the way to get what you want is to butt heads is the very thing that drove me away in the first place. There is no way for you to get an absolute on your desires, the same for I.
"If throughout the course of nearly 2 years you have no had the chance to come an understanding of what it is you must do to improve the group then perhaps it's time to let someone else worry about it"
In fact I have indeed come to an understanding which is why I am doing what I am currently doing.
" Do you have any counter arguments to the notion that someone else should be leading the group other than how much you enjoy having ownership of it? "
You seem to want a 100% fix right now for NFC, I don't believe that handing it off to someone else who has yet to experience what I have will get you the results in the time you wish for them. If it took me two years it will probably take a better person, in your words, at least a few months to get things resolved.
As well as if I were to hand it off they would have a complete blank slate to work with, further impeding their ability to resolve things in a timely fashion.
A group with nothing but a name and a few members from the past is not an easy thing to bring back.
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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That's not true at all. At the beginning, I tried providing you with some advice but you were disinterested in it. You've first ignored it and then casted myself as well as the other veterans away out of some delusional presumption that you could do somehow better without our experience. Clearly this hasn't been the case.
When NFC has declined in every single aspect, the idea that somehow my expectation of you is a complete '100% improvement' is absurd. I, like all people who genuinely care for the group, want to see its leader making progress. Despite the 2 years you've had to figure out and implement a plan, you have failed to make progress on any important clan related aspect. My contentions with you are not personal. I want the group to do better and unfortunately you are not going to be the person that will solve this issue. The more time passes on the higher the chances of NFC permanently dying as less people care for it. If you genuinely care for NFC then know when it's time to give someone else a shot at fixing its problems. That will be both a noble and respectable course of action.
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ezaiahsJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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"That's not true at all. At the beginning, I tried providing you with some advice but you were disinterested in it. You've first ignored it and then casted myself as well as the other veterans away out of some delusional presumption that you could do somehow better without our experience. Clearly this hasn't been the case.
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If by cast away you mean I stopped talking to you and I blocked Belmont after he threatened NFC, then ya sure man lmao.
and oh yes it comes out
the true purpose for all the word games and all the subtle not so subtle hints
I will not let my effort go to waste, nor will I allow myself to watch someone else fail miserably when I know I could have done something. If my next set of actions, actions that I have long been doing and preparing for their fruits, then I will have no choice but to find someone to take over. But only when I have nothing left in my arsenal.
And it certainly will not go to people whom do not deserve it
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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That's quite an allegation against Belmont, Ez. I wasn't specifically talking about just us two. As far as I know, everyone who worked with the group in the past, from myself and Belmont to the far more polite people like C0D3Y and GG, has formed a negative opinion on you as a leader. That is the reality.
It's been 2 years and the progress is nonexistent. There are plenty of people out there, including veterans, who are both deserving and more fit for the job than you are. It is up to you to make the wrong choice and to continue furthering the chances of NFC becoming permanently dead. |
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ezaiahsJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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Why would those people matter to me?
Where was codey and GG throughout my time holding NFC? Where was Belmont?
Be it for better or for worse I believe you are the only person who could hold water in a statement such as that. As silly as your advice was, at least you tried.
Its been 2 years of me leading, 2 years full of very different things. Labeling the entire holding under one banner is pretty silly. NFC was dead when I got it, I got it going did war after war event after event and we did much and went far. I had little idea on how clan growth worked at the time so we slowly started to slow down until right after the TRA war we had over Christmas break(around that any time).
From that point on I made it my personal goal to get NFC a way to survive long term rather than mere cycles of activity.
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ZAUESJoin Date: 2013-07-22
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you're a bad noodle leg |
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ezaiahs was alright when he was fa5's underling but i don't understand why anyone would give him actual power
didnt he have a clan he killed before he was sic of NFC? good idea making him your successor guy |
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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I'm not sure what you mean by my advice being 'silly'. Some of the people who are fit for leading NFC may have not been involved throughout your time with the group, but they've proved their loyalties in the past and are very deserving people. More over, their chances with the group are better. Having made no progress in 2 years is very concerning and if you are not prepared to give the group to another loyal leader (be it someone current or veteran), you should at the very least be putting a considerable amount of thought into doing this in the short future. |
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ezaiahsJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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I am as I have been for awhile now WB
I am no fool
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MertesXJoin Date: 2010-01-15
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can i habada pizza pls |
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DestmandJoin Date: 2010-06-11
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the pizza is aggressive! but seriously, I'm loving this game to flip to a random page in the dictionary and try to use a word tactic here.
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flexnotchJoin Date: 2011-09-28
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2 scoops nga Raisin BRAN |
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