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Rainbow Antlers already exist. |
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rose6666Join Date: 2011-06-19
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What about a rainbow rainbow hat? Like, a rainbow coloured rainbow? |
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Adam and Eve were created at the beginning. Their kids, Cain and Abel, lived in a populated society. Did you not read the link I gave you? >Yes I did but did you read what I said. Before Adam and Ece were created there was much more.
My point is that the Bible is not an accurate thing to use. Sure, take basic moral principles from it, but to condemn an entire group of people for something they're born with just because an ancient text says so? It's ludicrous.
>To say that people with mental health problems should be told it is good to have mental health problems is not right.
Remember, the Bible also told people to treat women like sh*t and was extremely pro-slavery. Does that mean you're for all those things?
>Show me those verses please. They are usually put out of context. For example only half the paragraph is shown.
I'm sorry, but sometimes Christians' thought process is bizarre. You say that you can't cherry pick the Bible and therefore can't accept h0m0s_xuality - yet you ignore the parts of the Bible which condemn inters_x relationships and equality of women and supports slavery?
>show me were it condemns equality of women. Show me were it supports slavery. |
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Was about to post "again?" but then I realize that OP is MeganMorse, posting its weekly rants. |
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rose6666Join Date: 2011-06-19
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">show me were it condemns equality of women. Show me were it supports slavery."
lmao, are you kidding me?
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
"Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22)
"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)
"And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (1 Corinthians 14:34)
"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life" (Leviticus 25:44-46)
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ" (Ephesians 6:5)
"Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior." (Titus 2:9-10)
that's just a fraction
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LGBT and other stuff like that aren't allowed in roblox. it can cause flamewars |
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EposzJoin Date: 2009-11-03
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I don't see a black pride day hat, or any race pride hat. I don't see a women's pride hat, or men's pride hat. I don't see hetero pride hat, or a trans pride hat, Why is this any different? If this gets implemented, people will end up demanding things for a very specific gender or day in history. Let's not start this, ok? |
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rose6666Join Date: 2011-06-19
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Yeah, I don't think adding this will really do any good.
There's a lot of g@y pride/rainbow shirts so I don't really see why a hat is any different than that, other than showing ROBLOX's support. |
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No. This is a political issue and politics have no place on ROBLOX. |
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">show me were it condemns equality of women. Show me were it supports slavery."
lmao, are you kidding me?
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
She doesn't have authority over him. Ok.
8 I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands without anger or quarreling (1 Tim 2:8)
Missed that part out did you, the fact is to make a relationship work each has their own position.
"Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22)
>put out of context, before that you read "submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ." (Ephesians 5:21) showing not only wives should submit but also husbands.
"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)
>This never says slavery is good. The fact was there were slaves in that era and those slaves were told how to treat their masters. Basically saying however horrible someone is treating you even if you a pre a slave and they are the masters. Treat them with respect. Not saying slavery is good therefore submit to your masters.
"And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (1 Corinthians 14:34)
> The point is you shouldn't speak in the service? You have no idea did you how sacred worship was thought of in those days. If there is anyone speaking in the service it would be a man. The rabbi. Just because of this he couldn't right men for the whole time a man is speaking. The rest of men are not permitted.
"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life" (Leviticus 25:44-46)
You act as if there wasn't any slaves in that time. By slaves they mean servants that are your "property". The same way it was tradition not to let one thing live. All over the world there were slaves and it was seen as a normal thing to do. Not something that God commanded them to do.
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ" (Ephesians 6:5)
>Again saying slaves should obey their masters isn't the same as saying slavery is ok.
"Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior." (Titus 2:9-10)
>what I said last
that's just a fraction
Show me more to debunk
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This will cause thousands of russians not able to play roblox because of LGBT propaganda
you dum dum
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rose6666Join Date: 2011-06-19
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Except you're being an apologist to all of those.
Yeah, it says a woman cannot have authority over man - which is implying that women are inferior.
It blatantly says that women must be silent in Church. It SPECIFIES women. It doesn't say "all but the priest must be silent in church". You also lead it onto another issue - that women weren't allowed to be priests or anything other than worshippers. That's sexist, no matter how much of an apologist you are.
The point of those slavery quotes is that the Bible ACCEPTS and ENCOURAGES slavery. Do you not understand that? It acknowledges slavery as a normal thing that people should accept and do. If "God" did not permit slavery, THEN THE BIBLE WOULD SAY SO. It would blatantly say "you should not own slaves because it is not a loving thing to do".
And you've proved my point. Yes - slavery was common and accepted in those times. So was sexism. So was racism. And guess what? So was h0m0phobia.
People are born g@y - if your God is omnipotent and hates g@ys, why would he allow people he deems as monstrosities to live?
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"Except you're being an apologist to all of those.
>k but I proved them wrong.
Yeah, it says a woman cannot have authority over man - which is implying that women are inferior.
>no implying that women shouldn't have authority over man in a relationship.
It blatantly says that women must be silent in Church. It SPECIFIES women. It doesn't say "all but the priest must be silent in church". You also lead it onto another issue - that women weren't allowed to be priests or anything other than worshippers. That's sexist, no matter how much of an apologist you are.
>It was a letter to the Corinthians, probably the reason was because that church was known for the women who talk during a service. Not surprised because it is mostly girls who can't stop talking in school.
The point of those slavery quotes is that the Bible ACCEPTS and ENCOURAGES slavery. Do you not understand that? It acknowledges slavery as a normal thing that people should accept and do. If "God" did not permit slavery, THEN THE BIBLE WOULD SAY SO. It would blatantly say "you should not own slaves because it is not a loving thing to do".
>We should take drugs. There were drugs back there. The bible doesn't blatantly say we should not do it. How we know is by the commands saying that we should never let ourselves be uncontrolling of our own minds. The same way being kind at all times to people is clearly against slavery. To say that slaves should be nice to their masters isn't encouraging slavery it is encouraging slaves to be patient and warmhearted till the day that they are freed.
And you've proved my point. Yes - slavery was common and accepted in those times. So was sexism. So was racism. And guess what? So was h0m0phobia.
>Yes all those things were common but not all accepted.
People are born g@y - if your God is omnipotent and hates g@ys, why would he allow people he deems as monstrosities to live?
I never said God hates g@ys. People with mental illnesses are born that way, does it mean it is right? No! He problem is people are telling the g@y people that because they were 'born with it that means it is ok' but that was exactly God's problem. He hated it when people told each other what was wrong was right. Hence Sodom and Gommorah... Yes there were still societies with accepted g@yness however the problem was not the sin as much as accepting the sin was good. There for those places were destroyed." |
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We shouldn't take drugs* e.e |
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rose6666Join Date: 2011-06-19
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No, you're still not getting it.
The quote blatantly implies that women cannot have authority, and that they should respond to their husband's authority. That's what the quote is saying.
The second quote makes no sense in the way you put it. Why would they talk about one specific service in a major portion of the Bible? Honestly, you're grasping at straws here. The passage is telling society that women must not speak nor be leaders in Church.
Again, you're not getting the point about slavery.
The Bible does condemn substance abuse:
"Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."
"Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body."
The point is that the Bible doesn't CONDEMN SLAVERY. Which means that the Bible ACCEPTS IT AS NORMAL AND GOOD. How are you not getting this?
Everything else the Bible sees as a negative action, it outright states "you shall not do this" or "this is a sin". It does not do this for slavery. The Bible acts almost as a guide towards slavers, and it talks about slavery as a normal thing to do. |
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"No, you're still not getting it.
The quote blatantly implies that women cannot have authority, and that they should respond to their husband's authority. That's what the quote is saying.
The second quote makes no sense in the way you put it. Why would they talk about one specific service in a major portion of the Bible? Honestly, you're grasping at straws here. The passage is telling society that women must not speak nor be leaders in Church.
Again, you're not getting the point about slavery.
The Bible does condemn substance abuse:
"Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."
"Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body."
The point is that the Bible doesn't CONDEMN SLAVERY. Which means that the Bible ACCEPTS IT AS NORMAL AND GOOD. How are you not getting this?
Everything else the Bible sees as a negative action, it outright states "you shall not do this" or "this is a sin". It does not do this for slavery. The Bible acts almost as a guide towards slavers, and it talks about slavery as a normal thing to do."
>There are many things that the bible doesn't directly say against but buy using other things it comdemns them. Slaves in those days were usually prisoners of war and in all people who have done the wrong thing so they are slaves in change for prison.
>The Corinthians were letters directed to people in Corinth it was directly speaking about the churches there and their problems and also encouraging them. That's why it is speaking about specific services.
>The fact that people used the word of God to abolish slavery IS PROOF that the bible is certainly not for slavery. If it were at a time were slavery was seen as good what would be the point of then abolishing it?
>YOU are not getting it. The simple fact is you are not realising that the bible doesn't directly condemn everything because they are more delicate subjects that you think. For example killing and murdering are 2 different things. The bible says you shall not murder instead of you shall not kill. In the same way saying you shall not have slaves directly included prisoners. |
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">There are many things that the bible doesn't directly say against but buy using other things it comdemns them. Slaves in those days were usually prisoners of war and in all people who have done the wrong thing so they are slaves in change for prison."
So what? It's still accepting slavery. It doesn't matter why or how they're slaves, they're still slaves.
Slaves back then would also be anyone who isn't a Christian as well, might I add.
">The Corinthians were letters directed to people in Corinth it was directly speaking about the churches there and their problems and also encouraging them. That's why it is speaking about specific services."
Then why doesn't it tell men to be silent in Church as well? It's singling out one group of people because they're seen as less Holy.
">The fact that people used the word of God to abolish slavery IS PROOF that the bible is certainly not for slavery. If it were at a time were slavery was seen as good what would be the point of then abolishing it?"
People also used the word of God against abolishing it. People used the word of God to lynch and burn black people. People used the word of God to treat women as lesser beings of society. People used the word of God to torture and execute g@y people. People used the word of God to justify going to war, leading to the deaths of thousands of innocents.
If the Bible was against slavery, then slavery wouldn't have been used under Christian rule in the first place. Don't you see the contradiction in your argument?
Joseph Fletcher used the words of Jesus to say that we should treat everyone with love and compassion, no matter their background, religion, culture or s_xuality. Read up on Fletcher's Situation Ethics. He makes the Bible better than it is.
"The bible says you shall not murder instead of you shall not kill. In the same way saying you shall not have slaves directly included prisoners."
The Bible does not say "you shall not have slaves", though.
The Bible says "murder" instead of "kill" to write themselves out of their bizarre, brutal, unfair punishments for crimes.
Some examples, hm?
Adult3ry - death
B3sti4lity - death
Raip - death
G@y s_x - death
Working on the Sabbath - death
A woman who is found not to have been a v1rg1n on the night of her wedding - death (also another example of sexism in the Bible might I add)
Worshipping other gods - death
Witchcraft (lol) - death
Taking the lord's name in vain or cursing his name - death
Cursing a parent - death
Kidnapping - death
Disobeying a parent - death
But, of course, you don't follow these punishments because they're old fashioned! Barbaric! Wrong!
... Umm, much like the treatment of h0m0s_xuality? (I also find it amusing that you keep comparing h0m0s_xuality to a mental illness, lmao) |
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Oh, sorry, I forgot to give you more passages.
Ephesians 5:22-5 “Wives submit yourselves unto your husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church.”
Timothy 2:11-5 “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.”
Lev 27:3-7: A [human] male between twenty and sixty years old is to be valued at fifty silver shekels by the sacred standard. If it is a female, she is to be valued at thirty shekels. If someone is between five and twenty years old, the valuation will be twenty shekels for a male and ten for a female. If it is someone between a month and five years old, the valuation will be five silver shekels for a male and three for a female.“
Deuteronomy 7:2: "smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them nor shew mercy unto them. Neither shalt thou make marriages with them.” (this is when God tells the Israelites that there are other ethnic groups living in the promised lands)
Deuteronomy 23:3 “An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever;”
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">There are many things that the bible doesn't directly say against but buy using other things it comdemns them. Slaves in those days were usually prisoners of war and in all people who have done the wrong thing so they are slaves in change for prison."
So what? It's still accepting slavery. It doesn't matter why or how they're slaves, they're still slaves.
>In the olden days slaves were more like servants. However a servant could be someone who is of high status that is why they don't use the word that says servant.
Slaves back then would also be anyone who isn't a Christian as well, might I add.
>Yes, OK, point?
">The Corinthians were letters directed to people in Corinth it was directly speaking about the churches there and their problems and also encouraging them. That's why it is speaking about specific services."
Then why doesn't it tell men to be silent in Church as well? It's singling out one group of people because they're seen as less Holy.
>Because that specific church had a problem with the women speaking during the service. Not the men, the same way if in a class girls were speaking you would say "girls please be quiet" of cause you don't always say it however it is very much common.
">The fact that people used the word of God to abolish slavery IS PROOF that the bible is certainly not for slavery. If it were at a time were slavery was seen as good what would be the point of then abolishing it?"
People also used the word of God against abolishing it. People used the word of God to lynch and burn black people. People used the word of God to treat women as lesser beings of society. People used the word of God to torture and execute g@y people. People used the word of God to justify going to war, leading to the deaths of thousands of innocents.
>True I guess however you have to realise the difference between random people using the word of Gid and actually Christians. If you research well the people who use it to do evil were not proper Christians eg the Crusade which was more a bunch of thieves and liars.
If the Bible was against slavery, then slavery wouldn't have been used under Christian rule in the first place. Don't you see the contradiction in your argument?
>No, because all I see is contradiction in the argument of atheist saying Christians were not the ones ruling and at the same time were. Those people who wanted slavery were not Christians. They were money hungry savages.
Joseph Fletcher used the words of Jesus to say that we should treat everyone with love and compassion, no matter their background, religion, culture or s_xuality. Read up on Fletcher's Situation Ethics. He makes the Bible better than it is.
>I don't get this really.
"The bible says you shall not murder instead of you shall not kill. In the same way saying you shall not have slaves directly included prisoners."
The Bible does not say "you shall not have slaves", though.
>You did not understand what I said from this answer. Re read please.
The Bible says "murder" instead of "kill" to write themselves out of their bizarre, brutal, unfair punishments for crimes.
>What is really unfair? When did you choose what punishments for each sin? How do we measure?
Some examples, hm?
Adult3ry - death
B3sti4lity - death
Raip - death
G@y s_x - death
Working on the Sabbath - death
A woman who is found not to have been a v1rg1n on the night of her wedding - death (also another example of sexism in the Bible might I add)
Worshipping other gods - death
Witchcraft (lol) - death
Taking the lord's name in vain or cursing his name - death
Cursing a parent - death
Kidnapping - death
Disobeying a parent - death
>You do realise that is the deserved punishment and not the punishments they actually gave? They killed an animal sacrifice in the place for those sins.
But, of course, you don't follow these punishments because they're old fashioned! Barbaric! Wrong!
>No because Jesus died and took the punishment of sin, death.
... Umm, much like the treatment of h0m0s_xuality? (I also find it amusing that you keep comparing h0m0s_xuality to a mental illness, lmao)
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"Oh, sorry, I forgot to give you more passages."
>Don't worry. Gave me time to reply.
Ephesians 5:22-5 “Wives submit yourselves unto your husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church.”
>The truth is the husband is the head of the family but it doesn't mean that women are worse than men. It doesn't make the women any less important.
Timothy 2:11-5 “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.”
>Same
Lev 27:3-7: A [human] male between twenty and sixty years old is to be valued at fifty silver shekels by the sacred standard. If it is a female, she is to be valued at thirty shekels. If someone is between five and twenty years old, the valuation will be twenty shekels for a male and ten for a female. If it is someone between a month and five years old, the valuation will be five silver shekels for a male and three for a female.“
>The female valued less because of the fact that they could do as much physical work. Farming was important in those days.
Deuteronomy 7:2: "smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them nor shew mercy unto them. Neither shalt thou make marriages with them.” (this is when God tells the Israelites that there are other ethnic groups living in the promised lands)
>These people were literally the most horrible people known. Imagine a terrorist nation would you not say it needs to be destroyed. It has been proved that God shows mercy if there are innocents. In Sodom and Gommorah he said he will not destroy the city if there are just 10 good people. There was not even 10 so he destroyed it.
Deuteronomy 23:3 “An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever;”
>Again evil people,
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A war is going on here... Idk who is winning lol.
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Isn't this WNTS?
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