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A rebellion may be diffused by a leader's graciousness as much as by his strength and authority. Knowing which to use comes with experience, though I am happy to hear that the rebellion was quelled in either case. |
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i mean i dont really know how much of a "rebellion" this really was..... seems like permanent blacklisting is a little harsh, no?
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@Rapster
Especially because they wanted this rebellion to force the leaders to do something about the situation in the group. To even to go far as blacklist members who have been loyal and great to the community over the years.
I came back to Roblox and UCR not even 2 weeks ago but the situation I am seeing with the group scares me. |
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ChattedJoin Date: 2012-08-12
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Making the group better by sabotaging development and spreading lies to other members?
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@Chatted. I outlined my grievances with the rebellion group on my first post on this forum. You and I both agree that these lies don't do any good to improve out group.
What I am saying is that permanently blacklisting members because they are just expressing what NeonWright (or whoever started this mess) has told them is inconsistent with what this group stands for. If I had not been in this group for almost 6 years now I would have possibly fallen for it too. Heck, maybe the HRs of this group could have met more personally with newer members so they wouldn't be so prone to lies.
The fact that newer members of this group were sending these messages to so many people is documented proof that this group has not done its share of reassuring its members that the low ranks have a chance in the future of leading this clan to new heights. |
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ChattedJoin Date: 2012-08-12
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You mean high ranks used alternate accounts to defame UCR and convince other members to join the coup.
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Maybe you should ask yourself why the lowranks followed without questions asked.
Could it possibly be because they knew no better?
I understand that what the HRs (who were involved) did was wrong but they shouldn't be blacklisted.
Like what Rapster said before, this wasn't really a rebellion. The HRs involved (from my knowledge) were just angered at how far this group as fallen and decided that their pleas got them no where. They then decided to recruit newer members to follow them as the only way to get into this thick-headed high rank council is through danger to their regime. Sure it would have been WAY more productive if they had called for a meeting on teamspeak or a game or something else, but can you blame them for wanting to make this group better?
I have watched this group over the years drop and then continue to make failed strides at becoming what it used to be before.
Blacklisting strong-willed members who we can still use to make our group better (as they proved they could do in the past) is not the answer. This decision just proves that the HRs of this group have no intention of changing the real issues these rebellion members brought to the fore-front.
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i had no intention to participate in any rebellion
i'm resigning, and that's all i'll do
The gene pool could use a little chlorine. |
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AriffJoin Date: 2008-09-15
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DAMMIT WHY WASNT I INVOLVED IN THIS DRAMA |
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Dethrone the unrightful leader decrypt
coup d'état long live the rebellion |
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lol you guys care way to much about getting blacklisted from a clan
move on to a different one and get over yourselves |
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If you had any sense of loyalty you would understand the implications of being blacklisted. You're forced out of a group that you made friends in, had fun in, have good memories of. In a group like UCR, which prides itself on being a family, you are essentially excommunicated from that family. It sucks to be blacklisted.
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EVERYONE & OP:
I think wholeheartedly that this is fabricated and was designed to implicate Sigars, Evil, and Sakura.
Undecrypted used the alias "John", and said that he had a plan to take the leadership from himself.
This means that anyone who was chatting with "John" was under the impression that someone was going to answer their frustrations with the group.
Not to mention, in conditions such as these, it is important to recognize that a rebellion is an organized effort with a chain of command, a hierarchy. I see no evidence of any long-term planning, complicated hierarchy, sleeper cell attempts.
If this is a rebellion I do not see why it is deemed such a threat.
At best this is just 3 people saying they want the President gone.
How come UCR is this ready to PERMANENTLY BANISH / BLACK LIST members who SPENT YEARS OF THEIR CHILDHOOD devoted to being members?
So even IF these members were dissenters, United Clan of ROBLOX leadership response is PATHETIC. Clean up your act Und.
This is a perfect example of a miscarriage of justice, and probably why these members disagree with a leader who so casually disregards what little membership remains.
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QUESTSTRONG: So for starters, Queststrong, I haven't caused quarrels in the group every week. I don't think that was ever really a thing.
There were times I was a troublemaker... you know, like, 4 years ago.
No reason to blacklist me since people have done way worse who are currently HR/the President of UCR.
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TL;DR
DISAGREEING WITH THE LEADER = / = REBELLION
THIS IS A MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE BECAUSE:
- no organization in the "rebellion"
- no due process or trial
- fabricated / staged evidence |
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loxJoin Date: 2006-09-24
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*Drinks soda* Why hasn't UCR died yet, Let it die, it ain't going anywhere obv
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ugh hacker why do you have to be right... :|
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UCR's new motto should be:
"History repeats itself.....again." |
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ChattedJoin Date: 2012-08-12
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I think you're missing the point. If you threaten to destroy development and take someone's account by BRUTEFORCE that is something blacklist worthy. This is what Sakura and Sigars planned, they wanted to take the group by FORCE.
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ChattedJoin Date: 2012-08-12
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/blocok
also, notice how this is the THIRD rebellion they have participated in.
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ChattedJoin Date: 2012-08-12
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If they really had a problem with leadership why didn't they ever contact me?
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that's stupid if ur going to blacklist them for something as little as this |
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ah yes
isn't it a bit sad that members of your own clan don't like your leadership
just saying
:x
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ChattedJoin Date: 2012-08-12
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Yes something as little as threatening to leak development and take the group by force. Bare in mind these people are high ranks and should be TRUSTED.
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ChattedJoin Date: 2012-08-12
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william, some 2 out of the 3 participated in 3 past rebellions and the sole purpose of this rebellion was a darker thought.
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