BazzzaaJoin Date: 2008-04-03
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By which parameter are you doing better? It can't be popularity, visitor count, profitability, quality of development or even the number of clans involved (despite the clan demographic being secondary for us). Is there another important parameter that I forgot about?
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'popularity' - Roblox Clan League is more popular than Battle Champions.
'visitor count' - You advertise your place, we do not. Yet we manage to get around the same amount of players to the RCL Battlegrounds as ur sword place.
'profitability' - Roblox Clan League is for the community, not for profit. (tbh, we could make more profit than Battle Champions if we set it as a primary goal)
'quality of development' - Congratulations! Trying to compare your few weeks old tech to a two year old Battleground. (Which you basically copied and some how still failed to make something better)
'umber of clans involved' - Dream on.
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The sword community is devolving due to no innovation, no one bothers to innovate the original sword, which in time gets quite boring to use. As for the gun community, there's many innovations, new weaponry, upgrades to the RCL gun (rcl 1.0, rcl 2.0, rcl 3.0) - The gun community/RCL community is doing far more better than the sword community, mainly because of these innovations. |
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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It is more popular than your place. There's a registration count of 80 groups currently, with several large ones actively involved in it. On top of that, our game attracts regular players while your does not. Sword Champions brings in about 8000 visitors daily - a total likely larger than the visitor count your place has per week.
I'm glad you acknowledge who has the better quality game, although I don't like your comment about 'copying' your place. In what respect have we copied your place? The lobby admittedly does look similar, but the same could be said about the lobbies of many group facilities. Our builder is a clan leader himself and I guess he is just accustomed to that standard. |
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karparowJoin Date: 2014-12-21
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#CantonSpecialOperations
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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The gun community is also not very innovative. Especially RCL in particular, which experienced minimal improvements other than the removal of lingering raycast trails and a pathetic poorly hidden admin script by an abusive and corrupt owner.
As for other guns, while generic styled guns are becoming more efficient, the gameplay isn't changing much at all. If clans adapted X_O's gun system than yeah, there would be some noticeable changes, but otherwise it's not very significant. Both the sword and the gun communities are pretty lackluster when it comes to innovation, and innovating the gameplay without losing a competitive edge as a clan is really hard. |
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alexthaiJoin Date: 2011-04-08
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#A-SOVGreenJackets
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ArovokJoin Date: 2013-09-26
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Glory to Frostaria!
- Arovok, Progression Marshal of the Roblox Assault Team |
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inb4 low part count of guns brought up as negative factor |
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Best of luck to all teams. |
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BazzzaaJoin Date: 2008-04-03
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It is more popular than your place. There's a registration count of 80 groups currently, with several large ones actively involved in it. On top of that, our game attracts regular players while your does not. Sword Champions brings in about 8000 visitors daily - a total likely larger than the visitor count your place has per week.
I'm glad you acknowledge who has the better quality game, although I don't like your comment about 'copying' your place. In what respect have we copied your place? The lobby admittedly does look similar, but the same could be said about the lobbies of many group facilities. Our builder is a clan leader himself and I guess he is just accustomed to that standard.
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The RCL Battlegrounds lobby looks nothing like a clan lobby and is original, built by BenBonez. Your lobby is legit just a copy with some added rooms.
'registration count of 80 groups currently' - Invalid argument as RCL does not use this pointless feature.
'with several large ones actively involved in it.' The sword community does not have several large active clans.
I'd also like to point out, you only have 15 people at your place currently. (Some what pathetic taking into consideration the points your just listed)
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You whole group is a low standard copy of the Roblox Clan League. Your 'activity' is based off external funding used to advertise your game. (Something RCL does not do yet we still manage to get active users at the RCL Battlegrounds)
The fact that you chose to argue about this on this thread (trying to make RCL/BOC look bad I assume) proves my point.
Anyhow, I'm done with this argument. Come back to me when 'Battle Champions' actually gets half as good as the Roblox Clan League.
Chaw!
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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I don't have anything against you personally, by the way. I dislike RCL because it's largely responsible for the limited innovation in the guns clans use and because the person in charge of it is an insecure and abusive twa . |
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BazzzaaJoin Date: 2008-04-03
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The gun community is also not very innovative. Especially RCL in particular, which experienced minimal improvements other than the removal of lingering raycast trails and a pathetic poorly hidden admin script by an abusive and corrupt owner.
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'Especially RCL in particular, which experienced minimal improvements' - RCL was not made to be complicated - go check up on your history.
'a pathetic poorly hidden admin script by an abusive and corrupt owner.' - Considering BenBonez released a guide on how to deactivate/remove his 'hidden' admin in RCL places.
Sigh. No wonder people don't take the sword community seriously with people like you representing it.
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2uoJoin Date: 2013-10-27
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@Devin
In the end, I feel like the reason there are only 6 teams in BoC rather than any whoever who wants to play is because there's a far higher skill ceiling than Sword-fighters would expect, you feel?
We COULD, invite different clans and outreach to create a giant tournament of like 8 or 12 teams of 8, but how many are really worth people's time? It's likely that the expected players will win more fights because they're just THAT much BETTER than the other teams we might have included.
It's different in sword fighting, because the skill ceiling isn't as high.
Positioning isn't as important in sword team fights than in gun fights you don't need to worry about things until you're trapped/in-range, in addition to the hitbox range(Your sword is large, compared to a single spooky brick shot), high damage allows for huge flukes, and teams simply aren't as practical for swords as it is for guns.
With that type of game play, it's obviously more advertised to the general masses, given you can easily do great if you're "ok".
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BazzzaaJoin Date: 2008-04-03
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I don't have anything against you personally, by the way. I dislike RCL because it's largely responsible for the limited innovation in the guns clans use and because the person in charge of it is an insecure and abusive twa .
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I don't even know you so I don't have a personal opinion about you. I dislike Battle Champions because it's largely a copy of RCL (which is something you hate so why copy it) and the fact you try to make out that its better than RCL.
Back to the personal opinion - I guess I see you as a twa - for bringing this argument to this thread when this thread is for a tournament hosted by the RCL. (I don't see Battle Champions doing that) |
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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Our little argument confidently establishes which game is the better one because you've conceded to some of my points and failed to provide any parameters in which BG does better.
I agree, the 35 players we have at the game now isn't very good for us. In retrospect, do you know how many players there are at your place right now?
0. There are 0 players at your game.
The reason you don't have an active clan competition feature or any registration features being a clan oriented game is because you don't have the developmental capabilities. Perhaps that's a good thing, given who the person that leads RCL is. The clans we have registered are not limited to sword groups - there are actually really big and active gun clans in it too (come see the leaderboard in-game for yourself!)
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2uoJoin Date: 2013-10-27
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@devin
I basically summed up why our community would be smaller, given the fact that it's on roblox. |
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NoAliasJoin Date: 2008-04-25
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I looked over it, 2uo. I think there's truth to what you say but at the same time, RCL is undoubtedly nowhere near when it used to be with WIJ sponsoring final battles as a mean of settling scores and Owen's involvement.
Baz, you've failed to prove how our game copies yours in any way other than pointing that the lobby - a small portion of the actual game - looks similar. |
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Dalt2306Join Date: 2011-09-14
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#BEARS
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2uoJoin Date: 2013-10-27
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It's a competitive community, that's why you see so many "Top RCLer" lists, that's why our community is so small, that's why Hype clans or Power clans with good gun fighters tend to also be familar, if not prominent in the RCL community. |
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2uoJoin Date: 2013-10-27
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@Devin,
At that point people were bad, everyone simply improved and began having more difficult competition from then on.
Sure, it's obviously a smaller competitive community, but personally I feel like we're all just better than a lot of the people in the past. No offense Agentgrua. |
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BazzzaaJoin Date: 2008-04-03
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Baz, you've failed to prove how our game copies yours in any way other than pointing that the lobby - a small portion of the actual game - looks similar.
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Sigh. Not my problem you chose to ignore what has been said.
RCL will carry on doing what it does, developing and progression to achieve its primary goals - I have little time for a low standard copy of RCL (using my tournament name!!) so I'll leave you carry on believing what you say.
2uo, I advise you don't waste anymore of your time with this guy.
Off to bed. G'night. |
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