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Yep, seems about right. Hoping I can keep my clan from becoming like that when development is finished. |
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S0VERElGNJoin Date: 2011-12-18
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Tagging. |
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S0VERElGNJoin Date: 2011-12-18
Post Count: 9008 |
"did you seriously have to write an essay to explain why clans are not enjoyable anymore
all I see is complaining lmao"
Make a retort, then. Otherwise, all I see from you is complaining.
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S0VERElGNJoin Date: 2011-12-18
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You're complaining.
Stop complaining if you don't want to contribute, it's easy. |
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l3ossJoin Date: 2012-02-18
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PyteJoin Date: 2012-02-04
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oh you sad sad boy nederlandz
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"You can tell us what VAK did wrong, based only off of the information you received from the side of our enemies.
Which is proving my point about how anything VAK does can be blown out of proportion and it has lead for people like you to believe we have only done negative things."
No, all I literally said was I wasn't going to bring up the TRA war. The other stuff I all saw.
"Isolaytor was the one who called the war a draw, unprovoked at that. The context of this being that both sides agreed to move the war to warzones. While VAK was practicing at our warzone Varcia, and waiting for VOID to release their warzone so we could continue the war. Isolaytor suddenly called the war a draw, with the reasoning being that Ganex had not been responding to him on steam."
Okay and this still doesn't make up for the fact that VAK cheated by using Officer pistols in official raids and entered a cease fire because they were getting their butt whooped within a few hours.
"Additionally, the UAF war came to a standstill after UAF entered a server that had defenders already set up into it, filled it up and hopped to another. The commander of that server was offended by this, and refused to redeploy into the new server."
VAK sat in servers and tried to force >EVEN NUMBER< raids when VAK didn't even have even numbers back then. Any logical raid commander would hop, that base is unfair, especially with even numbers.
"UAF responded to this by shutting down three servers at Sandstorm which were all near victory."
Why should VAK be able to gain raid wins while UAF couldn't? Why should VAK be able to raid while they refused to defend against UAF's raids?
"An individual incident was taken into such an extreme as to cause the entire war to shut down entirely. That's all that happened."
No, it wasn't an individual incident, it was happening REPEATEDLY. VAK consistently filled servers at SMO with half of the server and tried to force even numbers.
VAK literally complained about 1 Ally at Frost Clan's base yesterday and server hopped repeatedly (So they could get 1 less defender). Do you actually mean to tell me that VAK can do this yet not allow other clans to?
Quite frankly, I don't care about server hopping. However, if VAK is going to do it, then they should be required to defend it.
VAK doesn't determine when or when not to defend.
" You will likely not take my perspective into as high of a regard as those you have already heard from anti-VAK standpoints."
No, I watched the server lists the entire time and witnessed VAK defending against the ghosts of SMO.
"A clan is able to say anything negative about VAK and blow it out proportion, and people will automatically believe it. Which itself grows the concept of 'doing anything to win'."
When VAK is cheating, its not "blown out of proportion." Its VAK ruining the clan world and refusing to play by the rules to save their petty "reputation." |
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catgogo5Join Date: 2010-08-08
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Word, I the fact I have personally witnessed all these facts for myself.
Vak is the reason OJ died. |
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you would bump this on christmas nederlandz |
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spongixonJoin Date: 2010-05-13
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VAK did not destroy the clan world, the clan world shot itself when they started the rise of hype clans. |
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hype clans/power clans are only a part of the progression of the clan attitude of "doing anything to win"
but the largest progression of this clan attitude came from VAK in the VAK/TGI war, and the clan that has progressed it the most is VAK by continuously supporting this clan attitude |
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lil2marioJoin Date: 2008-12-14
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I ain't reading that wall of text so thank you for the TLDR
Clan wars suck because roblox doesn't facilitate them, I complained about this 5 years ago and its still true. Even then if you agree to terms and a place to fight then you've agreed it will be fair, if you suspect cheating just say so or pick a different fighting venue. |
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mitsu1000Join Date: 2011-07-16
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Hey Mario. |
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lil2marioJoin Date: 2008-12-14
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hi |
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lordtyler looks horrible lol |
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