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So why not block the asset image?
Surely they do it with banned user accounts. |
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LazyYamiJoin Date: 2013-04-23
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I made a forum very similar regarding this topic. I've emailed Roblox several times as well, w/ both the asset links of the clothing I made and the copies and the response I got back was "Copied clothing aren't the same quality". I don't know if it's just me, but from a majority of copied clothing I've seen, it's hard to tell the original from the copy. Anyways the people saying "This isn't a problem", "Don't make it over the pricefloor", etc. How about you put hours into making several different clothes only to have them copied and/or modified and resold, then say "it's not a problem". Suggests I gave in my forum and others about this topic were:
1. Make it so the original uploader can set if they want the asset link to be public. Much like freemodels, the creator can decide if no one has access to it, or if everyone does.
2. W/ valid proof that something is completely copied or slightly modified, delete the copied clothing/ban the copier.
Also not everyone uploads clothing as soon as it's finished, they may want to hold off and upload an entire set of clothes. Just cause multiple clothes are made on the same day doesn't mean it's copied. Hopefully Roblox will finally fix this problem because as of right now the only real ways to make any revenue is to make a game. |
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Suhreen, because everyone in the same game as you - along with anyone viewing your profile or any picture of your character - needs access to the asset image so they can see your clothing. |
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Half and Half support.
Using other clothing templates and editing them is a good way to start off your career. I know a couple people who did this and they've now made over 1,000 sales (on their original clothing).
Once I made the Uncle-Sam Button-Up, it was an edited TBK piece of clothing, I did state that, but after I made it and put ads up, people started copying and... Woah! Out of nowhere, suddenly all sorts of Uncle-Sam "button ups" started showing up in the catalog! Not even copied ones, just verry similar designs.
And people thought I ripped the stars out of nowhere! Hah! I got them from the Uncle-Sam tophat. So now we have MS Paint stars on a shirt. Great.
I reached 400 sales.
jks 45 ;(
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PlungeitJoin Date: 2011-11-20
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support
it gives me a sense of achievement when i see my friends wearing my old shirts
Woops, wrong Neighbourhood https://www.roblox.com/Panda-item?id=322273273 https://www.roblox.com/LEGIT-IQ-METER-2016-item?id=397724585 |
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pspjohn1Join Date: 2008-11-08
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LazyYami agreed fully |
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CantoxJoin Date: 2012-10-19
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"Using other clothing templates and editing them is a good way to start off your career. I know a couple people who did this and they've now made over 1,000 sales (on their original clothing).
Once I made the Uncle-Sam Button-Up, it was an edited TBK piece of clothing, I did state that, but after I made it and put ads up, people started copying and... Woah! Out of nowhere, suddenly all sorts of Uncle-Sam "button ups" started showing up in the catalog! Not even copied ones, just verry similar designs.
And people thought I ripped the stars out of nowhere! Hah! I got them from the Uncle-Sam tophat. So now we have MS Paint stars on a shirt. Great."
just check crappy youtube tutorials by people and you started off
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ZGameronZJoin Date: 2015-01-27
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No support. Some people make cool shirts, but price them WAY to high a price. So some people copy them to make the price lower so that others can buy a shirt that they like for a lower price. And tell me, how would they find the original shirt designers? |
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radiofootJoin Date: 2015-07-30
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No support
WELL, what if they gave you permission? What if you liked that shirt?? WHAT IF YOU WANTED THAT SHIRT? Then make it!
You can buy whatever clothing you want. There is no "real" author of it.. |
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Ber_riesJoin Date: 2013-06-23
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ROBLOX can add whitelist, and if someone sent them message that they want permission they will add them to the whitelist, if you're not in the whitelist you cant copy.
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CantoxJoin Date: 2012-10-19
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"WELL, what if they gave you permission? What if you liked that shirt?? WHAT IF YOU WANTED THAT SHIRT? Then make it!"
then they can share the image on something else than roblox?
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it doesnt matter
roblox isnt even a fashion game. its just the same thing
you get banned for it? its not theft, some people do need robux because we havent got the events roblox said, in which, i just change my torso color every now and then. |
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LazyYamiJoin Date: 2013-04-23
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Reading more of these posts and all I can say is I'm laughing. I want to point out that, yes IT IS THEFT. Sure, we may not have actual rights to the clothing we made, however the definition for "Steal" is to take w/o permission, the definition for theft is to steal. In other words people copying clothing IS stealing. Unless they asked the original creator to reupload it is theft. Fair Use on the other hand would be to take a transform the original, in this case a lot of Clothing made on Roblox whether it's an original idea/design as long as it's transformative it is within Fair Use.
"It isn't fair for the user to make their clothes overpriced". Did YOU make it? No, if the creator wants to sale it for a "high" price don't buy it and don't complain.
Those who are saying this isn't a problem are either one or both of the following: Do not make Clothes themselves. Can't afford to buy Robux to buy clothes. |
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I think people who don't support don't realize that people take time to make clothing. Then have some lunatic come claim it as their own and profit from it.
I think a whitelist of people who can see the image asset is a good idea.
Also, some shirts act as game passes. However, if they are copied, the copied doesn't work like the original.
then you'd have people buying a shirt like that and asking the game creator "Where's my effects?"
Balance: R$32 💰 I like money 💰 |
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VocSGJoin Date: 2011-10-15
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A. You signed up for this.
B. Clothing designers barely earn anything thanks to tix being removed.
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@VocSG
Noone signed up for clothing to be copied, that was a really dumb statement, and secondly people still have ROBUX to buy clothes.
Lets math shall we? 10 Tix -> 1 Robux when removed tix 20 Tix -> 1 robux, yeah no. They'll be making about the same; if not more thanks to it.
If you do not make change then nothing will change. |
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Jasonl531Join Date: 2013-03-25
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How about we just bring back tix and make clothing cheap again so we don't have any more problems. 5 Robux for clothing is expensive. That's why most people copy clothing so they can get it for free. Although, Re-selling it needs to be banned though. |
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Honestly, I am not sure why anybody is against it.
Please, explain.
Balance: R$47 💰 I like money 💰 |
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pspjohn1Join Date: 2008-11-08
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"A. You signed up for this.
B. Clothing designers barely earn anything thanks to tix being removed."
Actually, that's not really true. |
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LazyYamiJoin Date: 2013-04-23
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People who say you can't profit off making clothes, that is only true because of the thousands of clothing copiers. The reason big clothing groups don't complain about this problem is because of how big they are, they're big enough to even w/ people stealing their clothes they still make profit. However smaller groups who don't have funding to advertise, or huge followings make little to no profit because they have so many copies of their clothes. The argument of "They make the clothes cheaper" is stupid, neither you nor them made the product, you have almost no say in the price. If it's overpriced it's not going to sale, meaning they have to lower the price if they want profit. Eventually there won't be anyone making new/original Clothing because they aren't getting any credit OR profit. |
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lol
Try copying in real life and you'd probably would be sued.
Balance: R$47 💰 I like money 💰 |
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CantoxJoin Date: 2012-10-19
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"I think people who don't support don't realize that people take time to make clothing. Then have some lunatic come claim it as their own and profit from it."
no one really spends time into creating "original" clothing
you can just look up a tutorial, slap some images on your template from google images or something else, and then you're done
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TFerrooniJoin Date: 2016-07-06
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Okay there is A LOT of chatter, and I'll be honest I'm not going to read through 5 pages of this to see if what I'm about to say has been said. If it has, ignore me and continue as you were, if not then I hope this has been insightful...
Your clothing designs, as I see them and with my (somewhat limited, yet broader than the average person's) understanding of legal jargon, are protected under a very particular and sometimes changing Copyright Law.
Quoting copyright.gov:
"What does copyright protect?
Copyright, a form of intellectual property law, protects original works of authorship including literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works, such as poetry, novels, movies, songs, computer software, and architecture. Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation, although it may protect the way these things are expressed.
How is a copyright different from a patent or a trademark?
Copyright protects original works of authorship, while a patent protects inventions or discoveries. Ideas and discoveries are not protected by the copyright law, although the way in which they are expressed may be. A trademark protects words, phrases, symbols, or designs identifying the source of the goods or services of one party and distinguishing them from those of others.
When is my work protected?
Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.
Do I have to register with your office to be protected?
No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created."
So, to sum up all of that real simple for you here:
The clothing you have made to support your group is under copyright once you have posted it. Your group, itself, is under Trademark (though from what I understand to actually have it protected through trademark laws would mean filling out documentation and lots of court-related stuff I won't get into).
SO BASICALLY, they're infringing on your copyrights and you should report them, citing this clause. Thanks and buh bye~ |
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