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also what about Butler over Wade or Bradley?
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Melo >>> Hayward
Personally I don't think John Wall is better than Kemba (may be a personal team bias but stil) |
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oh right Butler's getting moved to SF
him > hayward tbh
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Personally I don't think John Wall is better than Kemba (may be a personal team bias but stil)
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PG:
1) Russell Westbrook
2) Chris Paul
3) Stephen Curry
4) Kyrie Irving
5) Damian Lillard
SG:
1) Klay Thompson
2) James Harden
4) DeMar DeRozan
4) CJ McCollum
5) Dwayne Wade
SF:
1) LeBron James
2) Kevin Durant
3) Kawhi Leonard
4) Paul George
5) Jimmy Butler
PF:
1) Anthony Davis
2) Blake Griffin
3) Draymond Green
4) LaMarcus Aldridge
5) Dirk Nowitzki
C:
1) Andre Drummond
2) DeMarcus Cousins
3) DeAndre Jordan
4) Marc Gasol
5) Hassan Whiteside
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"Personally I don't think John Wall is better than Kemba (may be a personal team bias but stil)"
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
@dead
Dirk is not top 5 anymore |
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but he outplayed kevin love on a significantly worser team lol
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RoodyJoin Date: 2007-12-06 Post Count: 343 |
Kevin love some booty |
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i would agree if it was Timberwolves Kevin Love, but this isn't Timberwolves Kevin Love anymore so
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for me
PG
1. Westbrook
2. Irving
3. Lillard
4. CP3
5. Curry (real PG's dont do stupid passes in game 7's and chuck up 3's all the time)
SG
1. Harden
2. Klay Thompson
3. Butler
4. Wade
5. DeRozan
SF
1. LeBron
2. KD
3. Leonard
4. Paul George
5. Carmelo DUHHHHHH Im surprised you say Hayward > Melo
PF
1. Davis
2. Griffin
3. Green
4. Millsap
5. LMA (didn't have as much of a good individual season like he used to)
C
1. Cousins
2. Towns
3. Drummond
4. Whiteside
5. DeAndre Jordan
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Irving is not the 2nd best in the league? |
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well he outperformed the unanimous MVP who set records and led his team to the best regular season of all time in the playoffs, so I think that is very much arguable
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so recency bias?
So many more point guards better than him |
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well, your list is top 5 by position now, so recency "bias" very much applies to this list.
and you put him at 5 on your list.. so basically you just contradicted your ranking by saying there's "so many more point guards better than him" (which isn't true, not many players actually improve their performance in the playoffs, which Kyrie did).
after what Kyrie did in the playoffs and especially the finals, he very much deserves to be in the conversation of one of the best point guards in the league.
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Kyrie was playing with the free spacing that Lebron gave by drawing in the defense.
Curry had everybody on him.
Really can't say he outperformed. |
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So I guess Irving is better than CP3, Westbrook, and Wall? Hell no |
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Better than Paul and Westbrook? No
Better than Wall? Maybe |
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you're acting like Curry didn't have wide open shots
facing elimination, Kyrie shot 71, 39, and 44 percent
to win the NBA championship, Curry shot 38, 40, and 32 percent
but I guess Kyrie didn't outperform Curry..
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"you're acting like Curry didn't have wide open shots"
he had much less space. is exactly what i am saying. |
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and I never said he was better than CP3 and Westbrook, I put them ahead of him, and even Curry, but yes I think he's better than Wall
Wall is a great point guard, but I don't understand how anyone would take him over Kyrie, unless you hate the Cavs or are a Wizards fan.
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I would 100% take Wall over Kyrie and I'm a Rockets fan
Wall is much better at being an actual point guard. He averages 10 assists a game. I'd rather have that than Kyrie's 4 assists. |
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Stephen Curry is being called the best player in the NBA and the best shooter in NBA history, but he struggled to hit wide open shots and shoot with little seperation? fact of the matter is, Kyrie outperformed Curry, regardless of how much room either of them had to shoot
and to be fair, Kyrie was hitting extremely contested shots, i.e. game winner, and the and 1 in game (7)?
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Stephen Curry is being called the best player in the NBA and the best shooter in NBA history, but he struggled to hit wide open shots and shoot with little seperation? fact of the matter is, Kyrie outperformed Curry, regardless of how much room either of them had to shoot
and to be fair, Kyrie was hitting extremely contested shots, i.e. game winner, and the and 1 in game (7)?
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you get roughed up like curry in the finals. he didn't get any of the calls.
i will stand by it till i die the refs done him dirty. especially the sketch calls he was sent off for. |
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the simple explanation for Irving not having many assists is that LeBron plays point guard a lot, LeBron averaged more assists because he has the ball in his hands so much, and Wall has nobody else that plays point guard like LeBron and Kyrie do, so he has the ball in his hands almost every possession, of course he's gonna get so many assists
Kyrie without LeBron didn't have many assists because he was THE GUY on his team, the best scorer, if Chris Paul or John Wall had a team like Kyrie did, I guarantee their assists would go down too, but of course Paul has Crawford, Redd.ick, Jordan, Griffin and Wall has Beal, Ne-ne, Gortat (who you could argue isn't that great, but neither was Kyrie's team around him)
I just like Kyrie, Westbrook, Curry more than Wall because all 3 are great passers AND great scorers, Wall is a good scorer but I wouldn't put him above those 3, and those 3 CAN pass for assists (Kyrie tied the USA olympic record with 12 assists against Argentina today)
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