ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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This is basically to add a little update to the Catalog by giving every gear a "Demonstration"/"Demo"/"Preview" button. Nothing too major.
Now I know what you might be thinking:
"oh you can just go to catalog heaven man why spend time on suggesting this"
You see, the problem with Catalog Heaven is that it tends to take a while with updating its in-game Catalog. This is to give each and every gear (yes, I said EACH and EVERY gear, meaning offsale gear that'll probably go onsale again, limited and limited-U gear, onsale gear, gear that's part of a package, timed gear, you name it.)
DISPLAY - LAYOUT
https://twitter.com/ZiftoRBLX/status/775707698914402305
The blue rectangle is a little sample of where it'll probably go.
DISPLAY - DEMONSTRATION/PREVIEW CLIP
Here's how the clip will work:
Each member of the staff will get a chance to showcase one of the gear. An NPC will be the main target.
So, basically, the staff member (admin or moderator or other) uses the gear to hit and/or kill the NPC. Simple.
HOW IT WORKS
You basically click it and it shows a short little '.gif' file or video file ('.avi', '.mp4', etc.)
DRAWBACKS (BAD OUTCOMES)
- This could possibly/potentially slow down the site, sadly, depending on size or
- This also might stop people from going to Catalog Heaven, meaning Seranok and the rest of the developers that helped him might lose money.
GOOD OUTCOMES
+ Other than that, it kinda helps improve looking for what to buy. You don't have to buy something and then, ask for a refund; you can just click the little "Demo"/"Preview" button to look at how it'll work.
+ The staff will probably have fun with this idea, ## said before, EACH member will get a chance to showcase a gear.
Questions? HELPFUL suggestions? Ask below. |
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joey 24Join Date: 2006-10-20
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no support |
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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@joey
Can you tell me why you don't support this? |
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BorsyJoin Date: 2014-07-31
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you expect the staff to work their asses off for something people can do themselves by going to catalog heaven
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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@Borsy
"you expect the staff to work their asses off for something people can do themselves by going to catalog heaven"
Knew someone like you would say that. |
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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@Borsy
Besides, the staff already "worked their asses" off on the terrible updates, so what's your point exactly? |
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BorsyJoin Date: 2014-07-31
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creating some new textures for smooth terrain materials and changing site a bit to allow for shorter sounds for cheaper price doesn't take much effort
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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"creating some new textures for smooth terrain materials and changing site a bit to allow for shorter sounds for cheaper price doesn't take much effort"
Gonna need you to explain further. Also, by your logic of 'changing the site not taking much effort', this idea shouldn't be that much of an issue, either. |
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BorsyJoin Date: 2014-07-31
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all the web team did was change how audio uploading is handled
with this suggestion you're asking them 100x that, to go and show "how to use" 1,890 gear that nobody will watch anyway because people rarely buy gears to use them nowadays
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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"all the web team did was change how audio uploading is handled
with this suggestion you're asking them 100x that, to go and show "how to use" 1,890 gear that nobody will watch anyway because people rarely buy gears to use them nowadays"
A. I'm talking about gears. Don't try and go off-topic and talk about audio.
B. "...you're asking them 100x..."
No, I only asked them 1 time. Your use of exaggeration is extremely horrid.
C. "that nobody will watch anyway because people rarely buy gears to use them nowadays"
Do you know what 'optional' means? Yeah. Buying? This idea? They're both optional.
Also, this is technically just a faster way of a 'try-before-you-buy', minus the trying. This is a simple yet minor way of choosing carefully of what gear you want to buy. |
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BorsyJoin Date: 2014-07-31
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"No, I only asked them 1 time. Your use of exaggeration is extremely horrid."
so you're saying the amount of work is the same for changing how audio uploading is handled and making 1,890 1+ minute videos detailing how to use a gear?
"Do you know what 'optional' means? Yeah. Buying? This idea? They're both optional."
i dont see what your point here is. watching the videos being optional still doesn't cut the workload for employees?
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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"so you're saying the amount of work is the same for changing how audio uploading is handled and making 1,890 1+ minute videos detailing how to use a gear?"
It's just a short little clip of how the gear works. If the gear has extra optional buttons included, it's essentially showcasing those, too. How is this such a big problem? It's just short clips of gear tutorials. You act as if this is more time-consuming than, oh, I don't know:
- removing EVERY SINGLE (or most) 'Comments' section in ALL (or the majority) of THEIR uploaded items
- adding meshes, which causes a whole lot of lag if it's too big
- the layout for each place, model, mesh, audio, shirt, t-shirt, pants, script, plug-in, etc.
- updating Studio a lot because of crashes and other bugs
- patching most of the in-game exploits
- the site's new layout/design
Yeah, that.
"i dont see what your point here is. watching the videos being optional still doesn't cut the workload for employees?"
So, what should I suggest? A forced option to where clicking the "Buy" button, you are forced to watch the preview? Also, you clearly haven't looked at the games, have you? (And I'm talking about the actually GOOD games that have more potential on being at the front page.)
Playing the games are optional but it still doesn't cut out the hard labor for the development team. |
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BorsyJoin Date: 2014-07-31
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"It's just short clips of gear tutorials."
ok lets say each clip was 50s long and took 6m to produce (usually takes much longer but working with optimistic numbers here). that'd take 11,340 minutes! almost 8 days! of course, it would take 8 days if THEY WERE WORKING NON-STOP WITHOUT SLEEPING
"removing EVERY SINGLE (or most) 'Comments' section in ALL (or the majority) of THEIR uploaded items"
automated python script or sql code can do that in minutes and it did
"adding meshes, which causes a whole lot of lag if it's too big"
meshes cause less lag than 5000 parts, and most of the work was already done as roblox just made an easy way to use the api from studio
"the layout for each place, model, mesh, audio, shirt, t-shirt, pants, script, plug-in, etc."
you mean the template for catalog/develop items and games? it certainly took less than 8 DAYS NON-STOP to make a develop page and game page
"updating Studio a lot because of crashes and other bugs"
there are rarely any updates because of crashes and bugs, most of the time when studio updates there's nothing new, just the old version but had to re-download because the client updates every thursday
"patching most of the in-game exploits"
you mean randomizing memory address every week which only takes about a minute?
"the site's new layout/design"
you said the same thing twice please stop trying so hard to make a waste of time and another useless update sound "good"
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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@Borsy
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Okay, here's the part I got confused on.
Here's your reply to "It's just short clips of gear tutorials.":
""'ok lets say each clip was 50s long and took 6m to produce (usually takes much longer but working with optimistic numbers here). that'd take 11,340 minutes! almost 8 days! of course, it would take 8 days if THEY WERE WORKING NON-STOP WITHOUT SLEEPING'"
And now, here's your reply to "the layout for each place, model, mesh, audio, shirt, t-shirt, pants, script, plug-in, etc.":
"'you mean the template for catalog/develop items and games? it certainly took less than 8 DAYS NON-STOP to make a develop page and game page'"
So, by YOUR example---not "MY example", YOURS
but okay, by your example, you said IF each clip was 50 seconds long, it'd take ABOUT AN ESTIMATE (that's relatively close to saying "almost") of 8 days, yet on your reply about copying the same layout for places, models, meshes, audios, clothing and gears, you said THAT took 8 days?
If that took 8 days, then what's stopping this idea? Also, I don't think you've gotten to this part yet but take to time to actually READ (if you've read it before, then RE-read it) this part of my original post:
"Each member of the staff will get a chance to showcase one of the gear. An NPC will be the main target.
So, basically, the staff member (admin or moderator or other) uses the gear to hit and/or kill the NPC. Simple."
Did you catch that? "hit and/or kill". You see? There's the option again, which would make things a little quicker, but you were only giving an example.
Also, to rebuttal your example, it wouldn't really even come slightly close to almost a minute. What do you think I was trying to suggest? A whole YouTube video with commentary? No!
I don't even think you've stopped to ask yourself this question:
- How long does it ACTUALLY take to make a quick, little gear demonstration? (Follow-up question: If it were to take that long to make a quick demonstration, how long would it take to upload each of those to every gear?)
(I also give you props for taking the time to read this reply.) |
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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Oh, wait, you said "less than 8 DAYS". I just caught my own bluff. |
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BorsyJoin Date: 2014-07-31
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ok im not gonna read your essay you wrote and expect me to read
this is an useless update, just like almost every other update on roblox
you complain about useless updates nobody uses then you go and suggest one
if you want, go and make 1,890 videos yourself and see if it actually takes 10 minutes to make them all or 8 days nonstop
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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"you complain about useless updates nobody uses"
Yeah, but I tend to give constructive criticism. Unlike you, however; you just give criticism, you Keemstar wannabe.
"if you want, go and make 1,890 videos yourself and see if it actually takes 10 minutes to make them all or 8 days nonstop"
Thanks, but I'm not a YouTuber. Also, why target that at me? I was just giving a suggestion.
You just get triggered at almost every suggestion you see. That's real nice. |
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BorsyJoin Date: 2014-07-31
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"Thanks, but I'm not a YouTuber. Also, why target that at me? I was just giving a suggestion."
what does youtube have to do with this?
make 1,890 videos and see for yourself
im serious
if you think this is such a good idea then make the 1,890 videos and tell roblox to use them
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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"what does youtube have to do with this?
make 1,890 videos and see for yourself
im serious
if you think this is such a good idea then make the 1,890 videos and tell roblox to use them"
- It's nice you can't see a bad joke right in front of your face.
- I would make all of those videos, but I have this habit of being lazy, despite the fact of writing "essays" to prove my point. Also, nice joke using a YouTube-based reply.
- Also, you should know already the staff tends to ignore its community which really doesn't give this subforum a purpose.
- 'OOOH YOU'RE SERIOUS I'M LITERALLY SCARED'
You know when I put "hit and/or kill" in my original post? Yeah. That reduces time. |
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BorsyJoin Date: 2014-07-31
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go ahead, make this such great idea yourself because the staff isn't going to do it for you
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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You basically just said "the staff tends to ignore its community". |
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BorsyJoin Date: 2014-07-31
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exactly, roblox is not a highly fancy restaurant and they're not gonna hand everything you ask for on a golden plate, which is why you should make these clips yourself. clearly according to you it'll only take about a day with long breaks to make them all, so go do it?
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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Even if the clips were really short, I doubt it'll take a day to add them to 1,890 different gears.
It's also funny how you're still saying that I should do all of these clips, since I think this is a "good idea", despite what your little 'comparison' (I think I'm using the wrong tool of imagery...) to ROBLOX and an upper-class restaurant. Even if I took the time to actually do it, they'll just ignore it, so why bother? |
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BorsyJoin Date: 2014-07-31
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why bother posting on the s&i forum and replying to flame wars if you know "they'll just ignore it"?
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ZiftoJoin Date: 2012-07-09
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What's even the point in this subforum anymore? |
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