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That's another thing, the existence of matter itself is anomalous. Scientists still aren't sure why there was more matter than antimatter which allowed anything to exist in the first place.
The reality is that we, at present, are either the product of an unbelievable series of coincidences,
the formation of the universe when by rights there should be nothing,
the formation of matter when by rights it should been created with antimatter in equal parts,
the formation of the first cells when by rights they should never have existed,
and the formation of higher intelligence despite the fact that there's no real evolutionary advantageous to do so until you reach a certain threshold, especially when compared to other mutations such as stronger muscles.
You could, I suppose, simply believe that these are simply an incredible series of coincidences, or that someone made them happen. |
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if you ever see those sports players or celebrities saying "i'm missing something, I don't feel complete"
just think about that, they have money, fame, fortune, probably some good-looking SO's
they have it all going for them
but something is missing...
something...
you never hear believers who are celebrities say "I'm missing something."
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LOL Mrbutter, that was one of the stupidest comments i've ever seen
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Ah, such maturity from a Vaktovian, comrade.
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Meca, a meaningless universe does mean that you live your life without purpose. Though you may delude yourself into believing that you, or life in general, has a purpose, the reality is that there would simply be things that happen, and those things happened to be assigned meaning by a certain species of apes. |
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Inductive..
There are things that are unlikely to happen, and that doesn't mean they can't happen.
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Be kind; learn and discover as much as you can; share that knowledge; relieve suffering when you can; have tonnes of fun. That’s why it’s not pointless. We have the power to create life, and to show those lives wonder. Surely that’s enough? It is for me.
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You're correct, it doesn't mean that they can't happen. However, humanity as a whole has preformed the cosmic equivalent of winning the lottery a hundred times in a row.
Is it a coincidence? Or is it rigged? |
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and now imagine everything coming from nothing even though scientists say everything had to come from something, with that logic it's highly irrational for the first cells to spontaneously appear
or the universe to instantly form from one 'big bang'
or humans happening to come from monkeys
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There are probably other species out there that advanced way faster than us, or slower than us. We probably don't even know the luck of our species compared to others other than our animals, so I believe we should just accept science and facts as to what they are, unlikeliness has still a bit of likeliness
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if god doesnt need to be created then why does the universe have to have a creator? |
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Be kind; You're going to die eventually, also the only thing that you're being kind to are a bunch of atoms arranged in a particular way that will die and be randomized within a hundred years and that no one will remember within a thousand.
learn and discover as much as you can; share that knowledge; You are going to die, as will anyone who you share that knowledge with.
relieve suffering when you can; The logical conclusion of reliving suffering is that suffering exists only as the form of chemicals inside the brain, and can be removed through the use of other chemicals, mostly opiat########have tonnes of fun. Fun has no real meaning or value and doesn't exist outside of chemicals in the brain, following this to it's logical conclusion the best thing that you could do would be opiat########That’s why it’s not pointless.
We have the power to create life, and to show those lives wonder. Surely that’s enough? It is for me. The power to create life isn't a product of the human mind, it's the product of human biology. Bacteria have the power to create life; that doesn't give their lives any special meaning. Also, any life that you spawn will eventually die, rending it all pointless. Wonder doesn't exist outside of chemicals inside the brain, so you could do a lot more than wonder by using ######## |
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if all cells came from previous cells, how were the first cells formed?
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Mrbutter, the topic of the origin of the universe and the origin of molecular life are completely different, also it's been proven that Primitive's earth atmosphere was capable of creating one of the most important factors in life (and it has been experimented).
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God doesn't need to be created because he existed before and outside of time, the universe doesn't. |
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There are certainly questions posed for both sides that may not have an answer
The difference is the widely-accepted laws of science often contradict themselves when applied to a creation context
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I don't think he does either. IF he does, he doesn't care at all.
Think of it this way:
You see ants walking on the sidewalk. Do you stop and concern yourself with what the ants are doing? How they're feeling? Whether or not they have a good home, food, water, and everything else they require?
No. You just say "Oh look, ants".
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“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” -- Arthur Clarke.
The legs feed the wolf, gentlemen. |
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the first cells were formed with mixing of molecules LOL
have you heard of primordial soup? other theories support that life can be created with molecules lol
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Meca, something being able to create an important compound within life is no guarantee that life can simply generate out of primordial goo.
We can be sure that it's at least somewhat rare as there's no life anywhere else in our solar system, and there's no discernible messages from life anywhere else.
It's more likely that something simple such as a house could form out of a rockslide than a cell form out of inorganic matter. |
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"if all cells came from previous cells, how were the first cells formed?"
literally learned about this in biology
cells can no longer be created because our atmosphere as it stands is an oxidizing atmosphere due to the high presence of reactive O2. oxygen species tend to react with other molecules, resulting in the breakdown of complex organic molecules. in the past, there was a huge lack of O2 resulting in a reducing atmosphere which allowed for complex molecules to form as predicted in the miller-urey experiment. this is what became the basis for life.
cells can only come from pre-existing cells TODAY due to the oxidizing atmosphere we live in, in the past this was not a true postulate.
phospholipids, what makes up our cells, naturally are at a lower energy configuration when they form in double layer spheres due to minimal repulsive forces. over time everything just evolved. theres a reason evolution is based off of random mutations, not controlled mutations. |
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Either way, I'm not going to risk eternal damnation
there are plenty more points that support the idea of a creator but i have things to do
later taters
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@inductive who knows? we may probably achieve immortality some day, and not make it meaningless for you lol
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