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TheCelvestian
#202096383Monday, November 21, 2016 8:15 AM GMT

Ya'll do realize you don't have to participate in RoVerse right...?
WannaBet
#202096496Monday, November 21, 2016 8:17 AM GMT

not my point, my point is that it isn't impartially manage and because of that effectively govern the groups that sign up for it clan leaders who do wish to join should be aware of the costs it has on their control over their own groups. if they still wish to proceed, that's entirely on them.
Wolfane
#202096521Monday, November 21, 2016 8:18 AM GMT

"First off, you have several times used the term 'war' as if there will be singular conflicts between nations in the same way there is now. In RoVerse there will be no 'clan wars', there will only be battles and territory. You conquest in a physical environment."
spongixon
#202096553Monday, November 21, 2016 8:18 AM GMT

lol "roverse will ruin your clan!!!"
WannaBet
#202096786Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 AM GMT

wolfane why be an idiot when you know yourself that in the next sentence you say that clans could win why be a double idiot and focus try to argue over gameplay mechanics when theyre entirely arbitrary to my point
Blizzarks
#202096998Monday, November 21, 2016 8:26 AM GMT

Ok then, state clearly your point without flaming out anyone, Wannabet.
WannaBet
#202097329Monday, November 21, 2016 8:33 AM GMT

it's been stated very clearly on multiple threads, i would suggest you read what i have to say if you wish to argue it. if you need clarification about what ive said feel free to ask
icebleed
#202098115Monday, November 21, 2016 8:49 AM GMT

I have not seen one good rebuttal to Wanna's original post. You are trying to prove that Vaktus will be impartial not that this is a good project...
Wolfane
#202098292Monday, November 21, 2016 8:53 AM GMT

The only thing I've done on this thread is point out WannaBet's ignorance on the subject matter, for which he continued to dance around until finally resorting to calling me an 'idiot' twice in the same post.
WannaBet
#202098589Monday, November 21, 2016 8:59 AM GMT

wolfane sorry I'm intolerant towards idiots
Wolfane
#202098683Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM GMT

Also Harry, it is up to the accuser to provide the evidence. WB is making the claim that Vaktus will be impartial, and his reasons for believing so are all generalizations based on personal opinion. Once he tries to provide evidence to backup his reasoning, then that is where we counter it.
WannaBet
#202099168Monday, November 21, 2016 9:13 AM GMT

already provided extensive evidence for vak cheating here are hundreds of documented accounts of term vak breeches in a single thread https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=120881197 'based on personal opinion' lmao that's some nice vaktovian logic
guges
#202099264Monday, November 21, 2016 9:15 AM GMT

The difference between cheating at your own base and cheating in roverse is that many different clans would (if vaktus had his way) call roverse home. The idea is that once you get people into the system its hard for them to call it quits like they can in a series of disparate systems. it'd be exceptionally easy to add bullet magnetism or some other hard to recognize empirically advantage.
guges
#202099529Monday, November 21, 2016 9:21 AM GMT

Clans would also lose their individual identity, we couldn't have a new frost bow or new arke with a system like roverse controlling the majority of clans. The cheating angle is one of many. A centralized system is not always the best, though it would offer advantages with standardizing who wins and who loses. Roverse is not a project like that though. It is far too invasive and controlling. It wants to control the very environment the competitions are held at. A standardized non invasive system would be much better, but people are being fooled by pretty guis and a "XD SO COOL" theme
guges
#202099573Monday, November 21, 2016 9:22 AM GMT

In summary, a system like roverse is indefensible when you account for the control over the environment (vak cheating would be a result of this) and the loss of individual clan identity
steamsport
#202111670Monday, November 21, 2016 3:06 PM GMT

Clans would submit tech to be added into roverse for their own clan, that is the singular most important thing so that is stupid
WannaBet
#202605240Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:07 AM GMT

XD
Adm1nMe
#202605941Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:14 AM GMT

WannaBet is the most impartial user on ROBLOX.com, he deserves the attention!
WannaBet
#202606214Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:17 AM GMT

"Today's groups perform very poorly comparatively to the powerful groups in the past. The strongest group today would be VAK." - wb, 11-25-2016 https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=202424774 please enlighten me on how I'm biased towards VAK XDDD?
WannaBet
#202627903Saturday, November 26, 2016 9:29 AM GMT

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