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even though i agree with what cheesey says for the most part good lord is he cringy. when i imagine what he looks like irl i picture the autistic fedora boy at my school, except fatter with a thicker neck beard.
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there should be a regulation on guns for convicted felons but not everyone |
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"no guns = no protection = if a ######### comes into ur school u cant do nothing cause u got no guns = you die" this argument certainly has merit against an absolute ban, but most people don't advocate for absolute removal of guns. most people want these restrictions: -mandatory gun registration -mandatory gun licenses (that would have ###### ###### checks and background checks) -concealed carry ban (unless licensed) -automatic weapons ban (so you can only purchase semi-automatic weapons) RIP Koolboy123, Oct. 1, 1992-Apr. 27, 2016 ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ |
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really, filter?
"no guns = no protection = if a ######### comes into ur school u cant do nothing cause u got no guns = you die"
this argument certainly has merit against an absolute ban, but most people don't advocate for absolute removal of guns.
most people want these restrictions:
-mandatory gun registration
-mandatory gun licenses (𝗍𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝗁𝖺𝗏𝖾 𝗆𝖾𝗇𝗍𝖺𝗅 𝗁𝖾𝖺𝗅𝗍𝗁 𝖼𝗁𝖾𝖼𝗄𝗌 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖺𝖼𝗄𝗀𝗋𝗈𝗎𝗇𝖽 𝖼𝗁𝖾𝖼𝗄𝗌)
-concealed carry ban (unless licensed)
-automatic weapons ban (so you can only purchase semi-automatic weapons)
RIP Koolboy123, Oct. 1, 1992-Apr. 27, 2016 ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ |
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never have i said guns should be banned, which is why i specifically said REGULATION |
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"no, the police, military, and the bourgeoisie should not own guns so that their power can be returned to those who rightfully deserve it (the working class)"
there are about 58427695467543769873546427985432958724356932469524352345698243695 different ways that would cause this to be a terrible idea.
RIP Koolboy123, Oct. 1, 1992-Apr. 27, 2016 ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ |
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>there are about 58427695467543769873546427985432958724356932469524352345698243695 different ways that would cause this to be a terrible idea
not if capitalism is overthrown
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too bad it still wouldn't work in literally any country with literally any government system.
RIP Koolboy123, Oct. 1, 1992-Apr. 27, 2016 ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ |
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>too bad it still wouldn't work in literally any country with literally any government system.
then why not remove countries and governments
you're getting closer to the actual problems here
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...it wouldn't work even if countries and governments didn't exist.
RIP Koolboy123, Oct. 1, 1992-Apr. 27, 2016 ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ |
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how so
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because not everybody is you cheesey jesus christ do you lack perspective
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how am i supposed to do my job if i am not inquiring into the minds of liberals
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capitalism isn't the source of 100% of the world's problems. some people are just a holes and will kill each other regardless. making weaponry available to everyone is a stupid idea because there are already a ton of people who murder for no reason, we'd just be enabling more people to do that.
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human nature is a myth, people are shaped by the society and environment they are raised in not by myths perpetuated by capitalists to restrict gun rights and tell the people that they need to be in power otherwise everyone would act like animals
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(note: this is including removing the police and military from having weapons)
because everyone will have a gun, as the only way to ensure that they aren't an easy target for crime is to have an equal level of defence.
a gun is the easiest, fastest, and most effective way to end any conflict. most people with a weapon on hand have it for this exact reason, and in a world with no gun restrictions than everybody would have one.
the most common issue: anger. caught your girlfriend cheating on you with another guy? shoot them. a manager refused to give you a refund? threaten to shoot them unless they give it.
another big issue: discrimination. spot someone who has something you believe makes them inferior human beings? shoot them.
and if this was, say, enacted today effective immediately, people will also decide to get payback at the police early on and probably kill any current and past police officers.
we will naturally go for the easiest, fastest, and most effective way to end any conflict that we have, and that would almost exclusively end up being a gun.
oh, and these people won't be locked up or even stopped by the police, because they don't have any power anymore. what will likely happen is that friends of someone who got murdered will murder the murderer, starting a vicious cycle of killing. this is something that happens with gangs, and guess where gangs usually are located? the places where it is really anarchy because the police don't go there and the government isn't able to do anything to fix it.
yes, you can say right now that you and many others you know wouldn't do something like this. but when you know that the other person also has a gun, how do you know they won't either? when someone you know dies because the other person pulled the trigger first, then you get cynical. everyone you meet can't be trusted, and you constantly are on edge.
in fact, this is something done in many video games: rust, dayz, etc. all of them rely on the user. if you don't shoot, the other does, and just like that you've lost everything. except in real life, there's no respawning. which means that you're more likely to not take the risk of trusting them and just shoot. and guess what? in those games, the ones who are the most trusting are the ones who die the most.
RIP Koolboy123, Oct. 1, 1992-Apr. 27, 2016 ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ |
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you seem to be under the impression that crime would exist in an anarchist society
i would refer you to this article /ZJJMrc
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how about america makes a law that all citizens are literally required to own guns and are required to open carry them everywhere and we can pretend it's unreal tournament 2004 |
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"For example, anarchists point out that by eliminating private property, crime could be reduced by about 90 percent, since about 90 percent of crime is currently motivated by evils stemming from private property such as poverty, homelessness, unemployment, and alienation."
as if poverty wouldn't exist...
RIP Koolboy123, Oct. 1, 1992-Apr. 27, 2016 ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ |
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how it would exist under an anarchist society?
no private property, homelessness, food shortage, classes, or work
i fail to see how poverty would exist
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The fact that cheesey believes that property anf Busi esses wouldn't exist without government should kead no one to take him seriously |
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"no private property, homelessness, food shortage, classes, or work"
seriously?
no work means no new homes are created and no food is made. infrastructure will fail, as nobody is working on it.
no classes means nobody learns how to do anything, meaning they'll never learn how to do any work that needs to be done.
RIP Koolboy123, Oct. 1, 1992-Apr. 27, 2016 ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ |
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>no work means no new homes are created and no food is made. infrastructure will fail, as nobody is working on it.
all of that will be completely automated
>no classes means nobody learns how to do anything, meaning they'll never learn how to do any work that needs to be done.
no social classes babe
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"all of that will be completely automated"
how did i know you'd bring that up? absolute automation won't exist for at the very least 50+ years bud, i'm talking about right now.
"no social classes babe"
that has exactly nothing to do with what i said but okay.
RIP Koolboy123, Oct. 1, 1992-Apr. 27, 2016 ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ |
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>how did i know you'd bring that up? absolute automation won't exist for at the very least 50+ years bud, i'm talking about right now.
...under capitalism, lol
under capitalism all technological process is delayed
>that has exactly nothing to do with what i said but okay.
yes because you read class as school classes when i was talking about social classes, lmao
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