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i think that joining clans for war only is not so good d;
but u cant blame the ppl
who wouldnt want to join a war when a war happens once or twice every 2 months ;3
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so whens this thing gonna start |
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"people should have a respect for established customs and not involve themselves where they are not wanted"
you are not wanted on c&g go away
u need to have a respek for established customs |
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Anyways back to the topic at hand.
I think it'll be a close war. Even though I may sit out on this one. Or I may choose a side.
This is the quiet before the storm hits. |
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"i think that joining clans for war only is not so good d;
but u cant blame the ppl
who wouldnt want to join a war when a war happens once or twice every 2 months ;3"
Then don't join just for war? If you say "It's bad, but wars never happen", they never happen BECAUSE people do things like this. If you do it, you're going to continue to propagate an environment where MORE WARS WILL NOT HAPPEN. This is a self-defeating cycle. |
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"This began last year with RAT vs UAF (devolved into RAT vs UAF, FoA, ...) and then failed, and I swore that if this attitude of unilateral intervention continued then no wars would take place. What has happened since? Like, two real wars? In over six months?"
that war should've happened, uaf/foa and the rest were ready for war. you had an active sleet clan, raa and whoever else on your side but instead nothing came out of it because, and really this is what it boils down to: you didn't want to lose. |
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AtomicRXNJoin Date: 2013-07-08
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No one's asking you to adapt to their ideologies.
You aren't required to post on this sub-forum or communicate with them.
What clans do you consider progressive? Clans in Affinity Accord? What's the point of being in a public alliance with progressive clans? Why not declare war amongst yourselves, while at heart sticking to 'progressive' ideology? As leaders behind the scene, you can agree on fundamental rules and still create excitement between your clans.
You're so bothered by the toxic side of this community, yet you feed into their flames and post sarcastic banter about them. Like it or not, what you post on here is how people learn about you and your clan. |
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"It's good to know you wouldn't mind if JC warred somebody like TRA and A-SOV, RAT, AC, FEAR, WIJ, and SC all joined even though you agreed to a 1v1?"
JC would fight that war, and we'd have our allies fight with us. Because that is what a clan should do. |
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i thought it was more negotiations ;s
i have seen some wars last year that worked out, not completely, but somewhat ;d
csp vs rat
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dov vs rf
uhhhh
tra vs vak
1 clan just doesnt want to fall into the negotiations of another clan and that usually seems to be the acclaimed reason wars dont happen d;
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"that war should've happened, uaf/foa and the rest were ready for war. you had an active sleet clan, raa and whoever else on your side but instead nothing came out of it because, and really this is what it boils down to: you didn't want to lose."
You're ignorant of the facts. RAT vs UAF should've happened. It didn't. They called for RAT, SC, RAA vs UAF, FoA, JC, ...
We were fine with this. They, magically, retracted their offer and then said "We want the war so ANYONE can join, and the war does not end until I or you resign" and refused to budge on that. What is the point of that? That is just aggressive raiding.
Please be don't be ignorant and spew false statements. |
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"I don't know why you dig into A-SOV when your primary has cheated more than once in wars."
idk why you call us cheaters when you cheat as well and then make your group a toxic cesspool
and u blame it on everyone else when you can't get ASOV in a war with anyone
if FEAR wanted a war we could get one lol
if ASOV wants a war you get NOTHING lol |
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AtomicRXNJoin Date: 2013-07-08
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"I didn't know RAA and VOID were all of C&G Atomic, my bad. It's good to know you wouldn't mind if JC warred somebody like TRA and A-SOV, RAT, AC, FEAR, WIJ, and SC all joined even though you agreed to a 1v1?"
HOLY CRUD LOOK AT THOSE VIP SALES BOII LETS GOO |
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"We were fine with this. They, magically, retracted their offer and then said "We want the war so ANYONE can join, and the war does not end until I or you resign" and refused to budge on that. What is the point of that? That is just aggressive raiding."
Considering I was in the negotiations, that isn't what happened. The part where anyone can join a side did, sure who cares about that? War was already big so it doesn't really make a difference. Second part is a lie, False said whoever loses the war has to resign and you actually made the bet and went back on it lol. |
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o ya dov vs rf had no interventionism
but i thought mostly everybody participated in the other 2 ;c
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"I don't remember large-scale interventionism"
thats because polymorphic broke war terms and banned anyone that joined CSP |
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"But you agreed to a 1v1, so JC can't have allies join."
Thought you meant allies were joining war officially, if they were just joining the group we'd either. A.) change the war to bring in allies and war those groups officially or B.) recruit allies to our clan the same as the enemies doing.
Doesn't really change what I said tbh. |
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"Still will win, however."
Attitudes like this against the ally of the Federation is what is going to incite people to join. [1]
"They're instead having them join *unilaterally* (without our support or acknowledgement) and *intervening* (without our support or acknowledgement) with a war they have no place in. This same toxic attitude is why FoA could never get a war."
Attitudes like this against the ally of the Federation is what is going to incite people to join. [2]
"I never complained about FoA joining, I stated a fact. Intervention is why FoA's wars failed in the past. Sorry if the truth hurts."
Attitudes like this against the ally of the Federation is what is going to incite people to join. [3]
"1v1 wars may be exclusive, but there was nothing stopping SC from saying upfront "We want X, Y, Z involved."
When I'm personally going to be handling negotiations against RAT because I know RATs bases more than anybody in it except for Und who knows it just as I do and we can both laugh and say not at all.
"sc's demands are insane"
D$ shouldn't have warred a dead Sleet Clan and he wouldn't be bombarded with those demands.
In my opinion it evens out the playing field for Sleet Clan, because RAT still has the advantage here.
They train with Sleet Clan's base,
They have more activity overall, elites and regulars.
This is what happens when you war somebody and they tell you days before "I can't do a war right now because my clan isn't up and running, it's near dead."
If poly really thinks he'd still win, then I believe he has no problem with using Celeste.
D$ seems to have no problem either.
You're really blaming the failure of a war because people join in out of hype..?
My friend, a war brings in hype. Nothing we can do about it and as you can see from the top of this, you will not stop continuing to incite people to join SC if you keep acting out and blasting FoA for absolutely no reason when people just want to defend their closest ally since the bballer era, which was an era of near death for FoA yet SC stuck by it and so does FoA now.
I am not flaming you here, bringing up your cheating, bringing up your own acts of pettiness in RAT v. FoA, or bringing up what Shinedown told me ( which is pretty sad, but I'm not going to talk about that here ).
You keep inciting people to join if you keep blasting FoA for absolutely no reason.
What's it to ya? Really the only FoA people who showed support for SC more than anybody is just me, threedragons and drazeox.
I spoke with the Overlord himself about this and he isn't intervening in this, he just joined SC as a show of support for his ally.
You would do the same for an ally that is going through a rough time right now too that you are bullying.
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no nitroyoshin!!!
he only did that 4 like a day or two and then the group ban on new members was retracted s;
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"thats because polymorphic broke war terms and banned anyone that joined CSP"
I broke zero war terms.
The war terms allowed me to update my place to add people to the banlist.
Mohxy told me he would close recruitment for the war.
Therefore, I banned anyone who joined after the war started due to his failure to do so.
If that is the length I must go to enforce agreements, I will do so. |
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