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Ampte
#209860571Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:07 AM GMT

It's true.
copacetic
#209860577Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:07 AM GMT

Agreed​​ ​ ​​ ​ ​​ ​
gang1bas
#209860647Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:08 AM GMT

Fun. Surge Lieutenant
Cryptonox
#209860704Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:09 AM GMT

Qutie the opposite. If it's the same as it was last time I looked anyone in the right mind wouldn't call it fair. They're brainwashing you!
Raviz
#209860724Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:09 AM GMT

memes
Heydude261
#209860796Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:11 AM GMT

I mean it would be brainwashing if internal testing has shown that MRs leading the raid team while HCOM members are leading the defense team turn into a W for the raid team
gang1bas
#209860797Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:11 AM GMT

Raviz, I believe RoA is the best group that has raided, you guys held the term the longest. (VAK raided and got destroyed) so good job! Surge Lieutenant
Raviz
#209860858Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:12 AM GMT

you guys wouldn't have won without vents
zman250
#209860921Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:13 AM GMT

SURGE's fort is neither fair nor fun lol
Ampte
#209860948Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:13 AM GMT

Raider time to term is under 30 seconds shorter! Not to mention cliff access that raiders can camp at. I'd say it's pretty fair, we're just really good at defending it.
gang1bas
#209860966Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:13 AM GMT

"you guys wouldn't have won without vents" I agree, without vents we wouldn't have won. Any ideas to make it more fair? Surge Lieutenant
Raviz
#209861106Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:16 AM GMT

block defender only roof access, patch the two far left side entrances into the building for defenders; make it so that they have to enter the same center of the map as we do. move back defender spawn by 12-15 studs.
Raviz
#209861163Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:16 AM GMT

"enter the same center of the map as we do." as in the lower ground entrance
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#209861178Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:17 AM GMT

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Raviz
#209861216Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:17 AM GMT

@sev, their excuse was that raiders can camp their spawn, but they decided to keep it so they can camp raider obby logic is pretty awful
Heydude261
#209861277Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:18 AM GMT

raiders do have the ability to camp our spawn AND roof pretty well, as I've shown to other people
RefugeeZ
#209861287Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:18 AM GMT

lol memes vents
Raviz
#209861304Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:18 AM GMT

raiders aren't allowed on the roof, read your own fort desc @heydude
actuallyJT
#209861321Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:19 AM GMT

SURGE's fort is neither fair nor fun lol [2]
HellStrikers
#209861359Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:19 AM GMT

I was going to raid SURGE on Friday, but I have cancelled my plans to raid SURGE because of this forum! Goodbye!
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#209861382Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:20 AM GMT

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Raviz
#209861398Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:20 AM GMT

hell raid my clan friday instead
HellStrikers
#209861456Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:21 AM GMT

Okay, let me scout BRB
gang1bas
#209861473Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:21 AM GMT

"their excuse was that raiders can camp their spawn, but they decided to keep it so they can camp raider obby" We rush our butts to basement and have people cross firing in courtyard and possibly 1-2 on roof. We rarely use roof. Surge Lieutenant
Raviz
#209861500Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:21 AM GMT

"We rush our butts to basement and have people cross firing in courtyard and possibly 1-2 on roof. We rarely use roof." when my clan raided, there were 6 of you on roof wdym

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