IcyRedemption
#213065539Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:27 PM GMT

Or go here and tell me guns aren't innovative. https://www.roblox.com/games/497641688/wACE-WIJ-Outpost-Indigo-II
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#213065545Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:27 PM GMT

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zepenguin4
#213065564Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:27 PM GMT

...France is the strongest country in the world, if you just exclude Germany, USA, Russia, China, and Japan. Hope you get the point.
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#213065595Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:28 PM GMT

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Minstronomer
#213065596Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:28 PM GMT

"and some gun clans innovate w/ guns eg: wij, frigid (animations, rolling etc.)" mhmm
VaIas
#213065655Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:29 PM GMT

That has nothing to do with the fact that the large majority of gun clans all copy the "innovation" that few clans such as wij, tgi, vak, and creation of rcl have done.
AtomicRXN
#213065679Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:29 PM GMT

both guns and swords have a ton of room to innovate and improve and they are neither better or worse against each other
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IcyRedemption
#213065716Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:30 PM GMT

of course lol, most clans don't have the proper funding or devs to get something new so they don't.
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#213065719Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:30 PM GMT

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VaIas
#213065735Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:30 PM GMT

c_hill vehicles aren't innovation to guns, you can have vehicles with swords too.
IcyRedemption
#213065763Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:31 PM GMT

ah yes, sleet clan was the first to have medi guns!
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Minstronomer
#213065803Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:31 PM GMT

"innovation" that few clans such as wij, tgi, vak, and creation of rcl have done. Vak? RCL? wym innovate neither of those are innovative.
WoopiWoopi
#213065841Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:32 PM GMT

There's a big difference between innovation and changing things up a bit. Innovation, in swords, would be something like adding a dodging or blocking mechanic, which seems good in theory until you account for latency, which is the main reason that swords are so uninteresting and bland. Once you make swords even more complex, latency will pose a larger and larger problem. Latency makes any innovation in the clan world near impossible to pull off, even with a good concept. Changing things up, like adding different melee weapons like spears and short swords, will make the clan seem more comparable to a genre clan like Rome. If there's a lack of innovation, there's a reason for it. Neither of these problems exist with guns. https://www.roblox.com/catfish-in-a-skillet-item?id=391505320
IcyRedemption
#213065859Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:32 PM GMT

STAs are pretty unique, and back in the day they had a lot of different guns with scopes and shotgun attachments, etc.
VaIas
#213065888Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:33 PM GMT

RCL was innovative because it was something that set the standard for guns and allowed people with no funds to be able to start a clan. RCL is like the linked sword of gun clans, with less history.
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#213065939Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:34 PM GMT

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Zerkius
#213066046Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:36 PM GMT

If you pay attention to sword clans at all, you would know that the Star Wars genre uses spears and movable shields. Along with the GoT genre which reskins swords, uses spears, axes, all types of melee weaponry.
itsmedefectiveblocky
#213070287Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:47 PM GMT

I hope people realize sword clans often have the same swords for a reason, so they can have servers that make it seem like a larger battle. You don't see gun clans with forts that have 50 people servers, that would lag the heck out of most people. Whereas I do agree guns can be a bit more innovated, I don't agree how people think swords are always super boring, I've seen some sword clan forts that have some nice features added.
BongoyPatriot
#213070583Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:52 PM GMT

Let's look at gun clans... STAs Reapers SMGs wACE Bows ASOV tech Frigid tech RAT tech FEAR tech Terminal systems Domination Systems Capture Point Systems Escort systems dang gun clans are really lacking in variety and tech innovation, too bad every clan is the same bunny hopping rcl garbage x(
Minstronomer
#213072944Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:29 AM GMT

frigids gun system is called Glacier btw
br5d
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