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Canada declared independence from British rule after WW1, hence forth why Vimy Ridge was referred to as a "Birth of a Nation".
So regardless, we still won WW2, Korea, and assisted in Afghan & more.
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@des Your being ignorant to the facts, the white house being burned isn't a war defeat, if anything it inspired the American people to keep fighting and not loose hope. Also Britains objectives weren't met so I wouldn't be talking smack about objectives not being met.
Wars Britain has lost
1.First Anglo-Mysore War
2.War of American Independence
3.Anglo-French War
4.Anglo-Spanish War
5.4th Anglo-Dutch War
6.War of the French Revolution
7.War of the Third Coalition
8.War of the Fourth Coalition
9.British invasions of the Río de la Plata
10.Anglo-Turkish War
11.War of the Fifth Coalition
12.Punjab War
13.First Anglo-Afghan War
14.First Boer War
15.Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War
16.Indonesia–Malaysia confrontation
17.Aden Emergency
18.Second Cod War
19.Third Cod War
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Completely agreeing with Ryan here.
Nobody truly "won" the War of 1812. The USA didn't get everything they wanted, but they didn't lose anything either, and we saw benefit from it at the end of the day. Britain didn't gain or lose much either.
On an unrelated note, somebody else brought up the topic of Britain itself having never lost a war (although the point of this thread is that Britain has beat everyone, not that its undefeated). Both statements are untrue. I'm not going to go through a list of every single war Britain has lost, but staying on the topic of the USA, I will name one: the Revolutionary War. I don't think I need to explain, unless you're a little slow in the head.
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skye // +2400 posts // "don't give up on your dreams, keep sleeping." |
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Des if your whople arguement that Britain won is the white house being burned and America not conquering canada thats a horrible arguement, a battle does not determine a war, not conquering a piece of land does not determine the war, the historical context behind it provides the case for who won what war. |
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Ah yes, the Cod war. Fish against fish. Stream against stream. It was a fish eat fish world out there, and I'm still having flashbacks |
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Great britain never beat sweeden because the the nation of Great britain wasn't created when the "vikings" invaded and "lost" in their attack on England. |
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War of 1812 was indecisive as far as full military victory, yet the American objective was not met, the White House was burnt and the British Empire forced you to sue for peace. That isn't a complete military victory but it is an objective-based victory. You failed your invasion, we got you to make peace. That IS a victory because it defended British-Canadian interests. [3]
"THE WHITE HOUSE WAS BURNT DOWN BUT GUYS WE DIDNT LOSE"
Yankee logic everybody [2]
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and has no one still come up with a true statement saying Great Britain defeated the City of London in a war. |
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Austrailia was apart of the British Commonwealth.
Enough said about them.
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@des The british Empire didnt force America sue for peace we wanted peace just Like britain, two the white house being bruned means nothing, it is a battle and a battle does not determine a war, third British objectives weren't met either so before you say American objectives weren't met look at your own objectives. |
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If you think a single building being burned to the ground symbolizes the defeat of an entire war, you have no clue what you're talking about.
Each single man who died fighting for us was a worse loss than the White House. Who cares about a building, even if it is our Capitol.
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skye // +2400 posts // "don't give up on your dreams, keep sleeping." |
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War of 1812 was indecisive as far as full military victory, yet the American objective was not met, the White House was burnt and the British Empire forced you to sue for peace. That isn't a complete military victory but it is an objective-based victory. You failed your invasion, we got you to make peace. That IS a victory because it defended British-Canadian interests. [4]
"THE WHITE HOUSE WAS BURNT DOWN BUT GUYS WE DIDNT LOSE"
Yankee logic everybody [3]
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War of Independence is the big 'go-to' for American nationalists
you all conveniently forget that the French Empire bankrupted itself to support your little revolt and ended up causing its own revolution in the process
with less or no French support, your tea part and subsequent tantrum would have been crushed with absolute ease
so by all means claim victory, but you owe your entire existence to the French and will do so until the day the US collapses
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@every Des has to retsate the same arguement every time cause he refuses to look at it from any other point of view, in his mind one house burning and one objective not being met while ignoring his own countries failures is grounds for Britain winning. Keep note he can't even argue his own arguement he has to copy and paste someone elses. |
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War of 1812 was indecisive as far as full military victory, yet the American objective was not met, the White House was burnt and the British Empire forced you to sue for peace. That isn't a complete military victory but it is an objective-based victory. You failed your invasion, we got you to make peace. That IS a victory because it defended British-Canadian interests. [5]
"THE WHITE HOUSE WAS BURNT DOWN BUT GUYS WE DIDNT LOSE"
Yankee logic everybody [4]
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@blood Nothing wrong with using allies in a war, just look at the wars of the coalition against Napoleon fought by Britain. |
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Des is a ignorant fool, Snoby British logic everybody. |
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War of 1812 was indecisive as far as full military victory, yet the American objective was not met, the White House was burnt and the British Empire forced you to sue for peace. That isn't a complete military victory but it is an objective-based victory. You failed your invasion, we got you to make peace. That IS a victory because it defended British-Canadian interests. [6]
"THE WHITE HOUSE WAS BURNT DOWN BUT GUYS WE DIDNT LOSE"
Yankee logic everybody [5]
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Snoby British Logic everybody[2] |
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oh and additionally
you can also thank spain
so i take my point back
the Americans didn't defeat the British in the War of Independence
the next two most massive and powerful empires in the world did
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@blood Yorktown, Saratoga, the Entire Southern Theater. If the two strongest nations on Earth defeated Britain then why was America able to hold it's own Against Britain and beat the british in battles. You can't use allies as an excuse for a loss considering you also used allies in wars. Stop being a hypocrite. |
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War of 1812 was indecisive as far as full military victory, yet the American objective was not met, the White House was burnt and the British Empire forced you to sue for peace. That isn't a complete military victory but it is an objective-based victory. You failed your invasion, we got you to make peace. That IS a victory because it defended British-Canadian interests. [7]
"THE WHITE HOUSE WAS BURNT DOWN BUT GUYS WE DIDNT LOSE"
Yankee logic everybody [6]
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the coalition against Napoleon was an agreement made by roughly equal powers in the Napoleonic wars
subtract one member from the coalition and the war more or less turns out the same, only it drags on for much longer
remove France from the war of independence and you lose
Spain wasn't that much of an additional helper, but France and Spain combined was the bigger issue
i wonder how Australia turned out so great, yet America because so obnoxiously arrogant, when we sent criminals to the former and colonists to the latter
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Not even gonna bother with Des' arguement I ripped to shreds. |
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