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Can you even show proof of one time RAT came to SC asking to host with us? Can you even show proof that RAT ever genuinely cared about the well-being of ## #### more than themselves? |
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"I appreciate the attempt at starting an argument here but if almost every clan that's been allied to RAT has said the same thing I think it says something about the group."
It's almost as if popular opinion does not define fact, otherwise the earth would be flat a few centuries ago.
You guys have reason to be upset. We unally you after citing inactivity or unreachable.
Are you going to deny that we are good allies prior to the unalliance process?
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Did anyone have experience seeing the earth from a different perspective? No?
Did anyone have experience seeing RAT from 2 perspectives? Yes? |
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"Can you even show proof of one time RAT came to SC asking to host with us? Can you even show proof that RAT ever genuinely cared about the well-being of ## #### more than themselves?"
I'm not claiming any of this so I don't need to provide proof, you're the one making the claims. You claimed that we propagated this 'puppet' theory, provide evidence of it.
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"Generally speaking RAT does treat their allies in a condescending manner and most of their reasons for unallying are dictated by people who have no idea what they're talking about."
Whether or not that is true is not the topic of discussion here.
"When you have someone approve of unallying A-SOV for the serious reason of "they're still in-development" you have an issue with your diplomacy"
At that point we don't want to remain allied, so again this is irrelevant. I've already affirmed that an argument can be made that we are cold to alliances that are on their way out.
Let's talk about prior to that one or two week period.
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"Did anyone have experience seeing the earth from a different perspective? No?
Did anyone have experience seeing RAT from 2 perspectives? Yes?"
... What I said literally went over your head. The point I Was making is that just because people say something is true doesn't mean it is true. You have to provide evidence. The belief that people saying something is true makes it true is called the bandwagon fallacy.
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"The other issue is that you do things that you know either can't be recorded with evidence or people won't think to take note of, so when you do ask for evidence you can invalidate their argument.
It's a shady thing RAT does most of the time with other groups."
Let's all put on our tinfoil hats, gentlemen.
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If I hadn't left the diplomatic sky group, I would've had a lot of proof.
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"When OO stopped serving their purpose to RAT you were replaced by A-SOV."
This is false, OO closed down on their own accord prior to RAT unallying them (in-fact, OO unallied us due to shutting down).
Seviro, you're motivated by bad experiences with the last two weeks. You should consider looking at the whole picture (assuming you can).
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cam stop arguing with fabiao's hand me down
just groupban rat/block him on the forums
honestly if you even think RAT is anything but a LGBT support group you are blind
without dmonkey and other good leaders RAT will slowly curl into a ball and roll down Route 66 of the clan world along with RSF (AC) A-SOV and UCR |
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are you trying to throw shade on dmoney's leadership
your clan died within 2 weeks of you going on vacation lol get out |
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"You seem upset, but the attempts at personal jabs aren't really going to get you anywhere."
I have not been personally attacking you. Perhaps you are perceiving it as such.
"You made it clear yourself that OO was supposed to be in a coalition with you and TRA, but when a better option appeared you took that one over OO. "
Provide evidence of this. Again, you cannot make outrageous claims such as this then fail to provide evidence.
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Yeah I'm just going to ignore the tub of fat.
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o0Xarek0oJoin Date: 2013-02-09
Post Count: 1957 |
dang this turned from sleet clan v rat to asov and oo v rat |
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