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straf
#21556225Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:56 PM GMT

As with before, these are just my views and don't start your "opinions" crap with me. Besides, in music, there ar eno such things as "opinions", only intelligent arguments(for the most part anyway). Believe it or not, there was a time when music was pure and fulfilling... they were like some epic journey through sound and made you feel accomplished after listening to them. And believe or not, there ar elots of people who refuse to listen to that because they are narrow-minded... whatevers... who think that having no lyrics and strings is a sin. Yes, that music was classical music. Lots of other genres was built off that, but i'm going to skip ahead to the 60's so we can get this started. So after music lost its purity, we get rock and psychedelic and metal, etc etc. Now, that music's OK, but we're not here to talk about stuff like that... No, if we were, this would be the exact same thing as the last rant. No... This is about the people know as fanboys/fangirls/[female hygiene, if you know what I mean]. Every artist has them, the half-crazy followers that use the universally accepted "safe word" "devoted fan". No, devoted fans and fanboys/fangirls are different. The fanboys/fangirls are the kind who almost worship that particular artist, maybe even proclaim that they're the best and you can't find anyone better. But they're all the same, and they're all predictable. "I like Steppenwolf =D" "Steppenwolf? Ha! They suck! Lady Gaga/Muse/any other freakin' artist is better AND the best you stupid person!" "Well... I like [said band] but... they're not the best..." "Yeah they are! >=O" etc etc. They always try to put down everything else because they're pretty much all [female hygiene, nudgenudge]. And before you get on my case about it, I listen to everything. The only thing that I will say is better is the eras from which they came, which is are indisputable facts, no matter the tastes. Like I may not like classical music as much as 70's music, but I still say that the classical era is better, because it is. Indisputable fact. Now, fanboys/fangirls are everywhere, and it would make the world a lot better of a place if they would quit being such [again, female hygiene]. Now that that's out of the way... A recap of rant #2 "How music should sound - http://www.last.fm/music/Three+Dog+Night/_/My+Old+Kentucky+Home+%28Turpentine+and+Dandelion+Wine%29?autostart How it sounds today - http://www.last.fm/music/Lady+GaGa/_/Just+Dance?autostart" Also, the Lady Gaga example was unintentional, it was the first link that came up XD
eothain122297
#21556364Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:59 PM GMT

[Female hygiene]? I think I know what that means...
straf
#21557709Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:19 PM GMT

Oh, I would also like to add that said fanboys/fangirls will try to bash bands whether they know what they're talking about or not.
Zilla2112
#21564757Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:50 PM GMT

As with your last rant, I agree with some points and disagree with others. I also dislike ignorant fanboys who can't respect others' opinions. However, I cannot agree with this statement: "The only thing that I will say is better is the eras from which they came, which is are indisputable facts, no matter the tastes. Like I may not like classical music as much as 70's music, but I still say that the classical era is better, because it is. Indisputable fact." It is an opinion that the classical era is the best era there is, not an indisputable fact. It is a fact that classical music is more complex than most other genres and that classical music inspired almost every musician today, but it is purely opinion whether this style of music is pleasing to the ear and better than other genres. Some people don't like complex, serious music and prefer simple, cheery pop music, and would thus think that 2000's music is the best there is.
eothain122297
#21565004Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 PM GMT

Throw up Your Rawkfist, If you're feelin' it when I drop this That was off topic. And I agree with Zilla. Personally, if I wasn't in band at school and had to play classical music, I would NEVER listen to it. So it is disputable.
straf
#21573371Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:46 AM GMT

Your not getting the point though. Tastes don't come into context when it comes to ranking eras. I don't like 50's, but I'd say that they're better than the 60's. While tastes and popular culture change, facts do not. I could try and explain this better, but it's too hard. You'd have to be the kind of person who embraces all types of music, but 95% of the people here don't.
straf
#21573550Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:49 AM GMT

Anyway, the whole era thing was off subject anyway >.>
Crash6351
#21577384Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:42 AM GMT

Not many people care about the old music, which is sad. I loved the old music.
vehicledude999
#21579833Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:27 AM GMT

Okay, so let me sum this up. 1. We can't have opinions, just 'Intelligent arguements'. 2. We can't listen to music from this millenium because it is 'impure'. 3. Music from this millenium is no-good because it talks about 'Female Hygiene'? WTH is that supposed to mean? 4. We have to listen to classical because you say so and because it is pure? Okay, so I guess I'll go listen to mozart.
gary141The2nd
#21580207Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:36 AM GMT

@Vehicledude 1. We can't have opinions, just 'Intelligent arguements'. He meant not to start arguments 2. We can't listen to music from this millenium because it is 'impure'. There I'm pretty sure he's saying music is becoming less and less complex. Otherwise I have no idea what he's saying 3. Music from this millenium is no-good because it talks about 'Female Hygiene'? WTH is that supposed to mean? The Female Hygiene part was meant to be interpreted as an insult deriving from a type of female hygiene that is now comonly used as an insult. One of my favorite insults at that. :3 4. We have to listen to classical because you say so and because it is pure? I'm pretty sure he was just saying classical layed down the base of music.
eothain122297
#21581120Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:59 AM GMT

Hey Gary, did you get un-banned?
gary141The2nd
#21581177Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:01 AM GMT

Gary141the2nd got unbanned today, but normal Gary141 isn't unbanned until tommorow.
eothain122297
#21581255Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:04 AM GMT

Oh. Thatwas funny, I tried to click on your account and it said "Item does not exist" and I cracked up laughing.
AlienDude653
#21582277Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:01 AM GMT

I use to listen to classical music all the time. My favorite composers were Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, and Rachmaninoff. Eventually my idea of music shifted to rock and roll when I was introduced to AC/DC and Matchbox 20. (AC/DC I discovered on my own and the one radio station played MB20 all the time, so yeah...) Later I was exploring every decade of music starting with Jimi Hendrix and Ending with Queens of the Stone Age. Classical music and Rock has infulenced me greatly, and I do agree with you on the fact that classical music can dominate rock in some aspects, such as complicity, and purity. But rock, pure rock, can also dominate classical music in humility, and originality. It's like Yin and Yang with those two genres. Think of Metallica's S&M album, where they combined two great forces into musical genius.
Mendezio
#21590212Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:50 PM GMT

“Believe it or not, there was a time when music was pure and fulfilling... they were like some epic journey through sound and made you feel accomplished after listening to them.” ___________________________________________________________________________ I feel the same way listening to modern music. It can be fulfilling and pure, and yet it’s fast upbeat and interesting. I love music; I spend most of my time listening to it. You my dear friend is the one who doesn’t appreciate it. As I write this I am thinking about my future son/daughter, and how someday he/she might be in this same situation, arguing with somebody, about how much pop fails and how the “in” genre of there day is better than it. “And believe or not, there ar elots of people who refuse to listen to that because they are narrow-minded... whatevers... who think that having no lyrics and strings is a sin.” ___________________________________________________________________________ I have never said I refuse to listen to classical music, I just said I don’t enjoy it. I am not a “narrow-minded…whatever” I simply said a few months back “I hate Heavy Metal with a flaming passion.” I appreciate multiple Genres of music mostly Mainstream Pop, Jazz, some Rap, some Alternative Rock, Country, and whatever Michael Buble sings. I do not like lyric-less music though. “So after music lost its purity, we get rock and psychedelic and metal, etc etc. Now, that music's OK, but we're not here to talk about stuff like that... No, if we were, this would be the exact same thing as the last rant. No... This is about the people know as fanboys/fangirls/[female hygiene, if you know what I mean].” ___________________________________________________________________________ Who are you to proclaim that music has lost its purity. Yes I am a “fanboy,” I love Lady Gaga; she is one of the most talented Mainstream Pop stars alive. I don’t care about you stupid low-society remarks about her gender and/or her other controversial attributes! ___________________________________________________________________________ Every artist has them, the half-crazy followers that use the universally accepted "safe word" "devoted fan". No, devoted fans and fanboys/fangirls are different. The fanboys/fangirls are the kind who almost worship that particular artist, maybe even proclaim that they're the best and you can't find anyone better. But they're all the same, and they're all predictable. ___________________________________________________________________________ I’m not going to repeat myself. Side note, I’m not predictable; someone once called me a uncontrollable wild beast. Being a devoted fan is a good thing, “Its always wrong to hate, but it is never wrong to love." And before you get on my case about it, I listen to everything. The only thing that I will say is better is the eras from which they came, which is are indisputable facts, no matter the tastes. Like I may not like classical music as much as 70's music, but I still say that the classical era is better, because it is. Indisputable fact. ___________________________________________________________________________ Purely opinion who are you to proclaim that classical is the best.
Mendezio
#21590268Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:52 PM GMT

I know, I know the spacing between the line and the paragraph is messed up. Cassical music is the best, said the noob in the ducky shirt.
Reddog785
#21592184Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:14 PM GMT

Listen upm you big fat N00BS! I am defiant toward stuff that I am told to do because of no decent reason other the opinion crap of the other person or it is at school, though I do question EVERYTHING. I even question the whole entire point of our existance. And, Mr. 100 year old, you think all modern music is Pop and R&B, don't you? Well, I gotta bit of information for you that you CANNOT give me your opinion back as it is "invalid" and you believe everybody agrees with you. NOT ALL MODERN STUFF IS CRAP EXCEPT POP AND YOUR FACE. (Source: My brain because it is obviously more user-friendly than whatever junkpile you're typing with.)
Reddog785
#21592203Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:15 PM GMT

I'm not always like this a school.
Mendezio
#21592506Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:26 PM GMT

That was hard to read... gammmer wise anyway.
Mendezio
#21592571Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:28 PM GMT

Another point from yours truly; noobs can't argue without referring to "your face."
straf
#21597083Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:45 PM GMT

It wasn't aimed at you Mendezio, for I don't consider you a fanboy... yet. Also, it's not a duck, it's a Chocobo.
Reddog785
#21733972Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:01 PM GMT

@Mendezio: You like school because you aen't allowed an opinion. You like boot camp because people are told off for stating opninon and speaking in BRITISH ENGLISH on an INTERNATIONAL forum. Don't like it? Then please leave through the designated Kijarat. And, don't ask me what a Kijarat is, because you're too lazy to figure out how to read British style grammar or even spell grammar.
Mendezio
#21734672Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:14 PM GMT

British English what, It's just my personal writing, and speaking style.
eothain122297
#21738178Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:29 PM GMT

I just figured out something! Reddog is a total noob! Yay! Whoopedy frickin' doo! Who cares how people write? Jeez, the idiotic pickiness of some people....

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