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victoria621
#218094633Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:23 PM GMT

because they don't swap groups or the leaders quit once in every three months; they can sustain long term elitism
JaylWNL
#218094684Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:23 PM GMT

Once again, CSP has been around since 2015.
Pyte
#218094688Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:23 PM GMT

none of them are elite lol
TENSHl
#218094721Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:24 PM GMT

maybe switching groups and having your leaders quit is a better strategy considering the warscore xp ora ora ora *punches u in face*
tjejoker87
#218094733Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:24 PM GMT

/ffkxvz (prntscr) Nice try. .
TheLastingMillennia
#218094772Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:25 PM GMT

CSP's been alive and around for a while now, though.
VirgilStar1
#218094847Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:26 PM GMT

'Quitting' does not necessarily mean leaving ROBLOX; some people just don't actively participate. I would argue that Vaktus fits into this category, and to your other point, VAK is constantly changing SiCs, generals, colonels, and captains. I find your argument unpersuasive. Say, are you VeitMyani? He has a history of posing as girls. ~Virgil~
hockeychris11
#218094860Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:26 PM GMT

"csp has been around since 2015" being around and being relevant are two different things. vak could consistently rally 100+ if needed for the past two year, has participated in multiple wars, has never changed leaders, and has been a consistent dominant force. csp shutdown like 3ish times, switched leaders a few times, could never rally the same amount as vak. only had like 2 wars that weren't really successful.
victoria621
#218094895Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:27 PM GMT

may have started in 2015 but has intervals when they hop to a new clan with a new elitist leader before the other one comes back to rule vak has been here for much much longer and have dominated top three for a much longer time :)
Space_Marine
#218094917Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:27 PM GMT

You'll always be my best~
spongixon
#218094942Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:27 PM GMT

vak has been 7+ years without dying fellas :D
Pyte
#218094975Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:28 PM GMT

lol
victoria621
#218095005Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:28 PM GMT

rooting for you vak! <3
JaylWNL
#218096282Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:47 PM GMT

being around and being relevant are two different things. vak could consistently rally 100+ if needed for the past two year, has participated in multiple wars, has never changed leaders, and has been a consistent dominant force. csp shutdown like 3ish times, switched leaders a few times, could never rally the same amount as vak. only had like 2 wars that weren't really successful. -- CSP has out-rallied VAK every time. Has been a consistent dominant force and has never changed leaders. CSP has shutdown one time and returned twice as strong and has had 3 wars, in which we successfully finished one with RAT, defeated ISA, beat a group that was using aimbot. Nice try though.
2BluePandas
#218096670Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:53 PM GMT

At the start of the war VAK outrallied CSP.
JaylWNL
#218096721Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:53 PM GMT

CSP rallied 150-160, VAK rallied 120-130.
Qlues
#218096765Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:54 PM GMT

Victoria, your bait has been exposed. blues qlues
SummerSurfer
#218096782Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:54 PM GMT

so you're saying VAK is better because they've been around longer?
hockeychris11
#218096862Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:55 PM GMT

"vak could consistently rally 100+ if needed for the past two years" "consistently rally 100+ if needed for the past two years" "if needed for the past two years" "past two years" don't tell me CSP could for the past two years because that's a massive lie
Krasys
#218097041Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:58 PM GMT

VAKs officers need some new strategies cause the ones they're using isn't working
JaylWNL
#218097045Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:58 PM GMT

what has two years got to do with anything, dont tell me you're agreeing with victoria because "vak has been around longer which makes it a better clan", if that's the logic you're applying TRA would be a better clan than CSP too.
outflash
#218097088Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:58 PM GMT

VAK outrallied CSP. I don't know where 150-160 came from because there were never more than 10 servers.
Shinedown204
#218097202Saturday, June 03, 2017 11:00 PM GMT

"what has two years got to do with anything, dont tell me you're agreeing with victoria because "vak has been around longer which makes it a better clan", if that's the logic you're applying TRA would be a better clan than CSP too." I would consider TRA a better clan than CSP because TRA is a superclan that is inviting new people into the clan community, and TRA isn't harming the clan world as to where CSP is.
hockeychris11
#218097497Saturday, June 03, 2017 11:04 PM GMT

I agree with Shinedown on this. CSP is an elitest clan with essentially nothing to offer clans aside from toxicity and superiority and that shouldn't be the case. It's clans like CSP that make other clans have to bend their own values in order to compete. When CSP wasn't around, and VAK raided us with regulars, and other clans raided us (as in TRA.) we could literally just send normal members to defend, and it'd be fun. There'd be no toxicity, our members wouldn't be tremendously outskilled, then harassed about the fact they're worse than some people. Overall, it was just fun. CSP raids and we can't get five minutes into the raid without toxicity, we can't send normal members to defend, etc... Skill doesn't always equal up to 'the better clan.' The better clans will always be those bringing new people into the clan world, which is why VAK is also significant.
JaylWNL
#218097542Saturday, June 03, 2017 11:04 PM GMT

can you explain how csp is hurting clans

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