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But what blox said, it will be impossible to moderate because there are so many copied clothing items
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"Essentially as soon as we upload a piece of clothing ROBLOX owns it. They're just being nice enough to let you make virtual currency out of it as you made it. Anyone who copies a piece of clothing is copying a ROBLOX asset and I assume since ROBLOX doesn't do anything about clothing copying unless it's an extremely famous designer such as BlobMista they don't really have the time or man power to crack down on duplications of clothing assets because at the end of the day they still belong to ROBLOX." -Gidein
"No support, blocking asset pages is laughably easy to bypass and will just cause unneeded headaches for scripters trying to find the Roblox Image asset for a decal, trying to check the length of an audio file, or linking people to old versions of their assets." - Internevicus
"And I will say this time and time again - it is technically impossible to block access to an asset page. Yes, you can block access to anything that isn't the ROBLOX client. Yes, even the skiddiest of hackers can bypass that in five minutes tops.
Your report copy idea won't work either because none of the moderation on ROBLOX is done by hand. It's all automated by a (really crappy) bot. Yes, it could compare SHA-1 hashes. Here's the super secret way to bypass this (OMG EXPLOIT LEAK!) - use mspaint and put a tiny white dot somewhere outside the template's actual clothing data.
Finally, clothes designing honestly requires no talent or skill to do. It takes 10 minutes of googling for textures and about 5 minutes of using ################ draw tools. Everyone I know who is actually skilled at graphics design (and even a certain really unskilled one I shall leave unnamed - a certain one who worked on a game ending in ":Remade" - yes you. You're terribad.) - has realized this and moved on to making thumbnails/icons/ads for games.
So all in all, it's really not worth ROBLOX's time to bother to implement this, neither is it worth my time to have to find the client's UA string and keep swapping between it and my default one every time I want to find an audio asset's length because the asset page was blocked to protect a bunch of wannabe fashion designers." - Internevcius
"I design clothes, but I really don't support this.
You can't restrict access to templates.All addresses need to view them.The template IS the shirt.Without everyone being able to view it,clothing system is broken.
As for these non-builders club creator groups" that every one seems to think the creators copy clothes,that's not true at all.It's the kids who upload the clothing into the group store NOT the creators.I don't get why they would remove a group as that group did nothing,it was the members.
As for the roblox university shirt,they didn't stop clothing copying at all.They hid it behind a second jump.If you press inspect element,you'll eventually find a link to the template. Putting on the user's profile that they have copied clothes before will do literally nothing,nobody would even take a second to look,and isn't that harassment?" -blox6man
"So saving an image to your computer and uploading it makes you a jerk?Can't wait to see what bias like that makes you.
You used the Jordan logo, am I correct?The logo does not belong to you, and if the real people who owned that logo saw that, they'd get the logo right off the site.You call it yours, when you clearly violated the Terms Of Service.So, if anyone calls this stealing, maybe stop using copyrighted material and passing it off as your own.
I design, and if a 7 year old can make more money than you just by copying clothing, that's just somethig you have to deal with,because we can't stop it. He must have advertised it, just uploading clothing and stating that it is original doesn't get you anywhere." - blox6man
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"I don't know about these designers personal lives very much, I don't know most of their YT channels and all of that, but I will see what she actually does.
The real reason people buy the copies and not the original is it's easier to find.Incase you're wondering.But, if you wanted to get more sales, you could just update the item, the it goes to the front when you search. 😜
Even it she does draw it, there are some who put no effort into it and don't deserve rights.It would be nice if designers could, but it just wouldn't be fair in my opinion, since the majority just copies and pastes. Yes, I realize that some designers' clothing is very important to them.But think about what a toxic community this is.They don't care.Besides, if you have no rights to it, roblox isn't going to defend you." - blox6man
"It's not like you can just download a file, type in a few words, and boom, we now have a successful auto-moderation!It doesn't work like that.It would cost thousands, if not, MILLIONS to make a system.They also have such limited resources.
You know, I always see people saying that they'd earn so much more real money with Developer Exchange if it weren't for copiers, but really? Would you? First of all, you need OBC. A year of OBC IS ALMOST 400$!Then, you need to have obtained 100,000 robux or more from the day you joined.That's a lot.Once you're eligible, you then convert it for so little.400 robux = 5$. That's really not a lot.You wouldn't "earn" anything, you'd just get some money back.
I know someone's gonna tell me that "it's all about morals". Rules don't dictate morals.They dictate pure incorrect acts.And, roblox is a company.No company has wasted tons of money they could spend on further development on the account of a morally incorrect act.Is stealing "supposed" to be wrong?Yes.But it's not like we can moderate people based on this." -blox6man
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CantoxJoin Date: 2012-10-19
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@Noob
Thank you. Thank you.
This is what I tried to find, I also wanted to mention Internevicus but I didn't quite remember that name fully. Lol.
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"Say you do manage to purge all initial copies to trim the catalog, what are we looking at now? I'd say at least 500k clothing assets would be unique, would you not agree?
Great, now keep in mind all these images are hosted on a separate website called the content distribution network. Think of roblox.com as the front end - any time it needs something like a clothing template or an audio asset or your profile picture, hell, even every time a new game server starts and needs to download the proper RBXL file, it's going to perform an internet request to the CDN to get the correct asset. HTTP ####ests are not instantaneous, so file access times are going to be a major problem.
So far so good? You have your front end you can stress and nobody will care because boo hoo the site lags, but the CDN is quite literally ROBLOX's heart, so you want as little stress on it as possible.
Even if ROBLOX were to host this little "image check" program on the CDN itself, it's split up across 7 or 8 servers (I can't remember which) so no matter what you do you're going to have to use #### requests for a majority of your image access requests. Not to mention you will be rapidly accessing 500k images as fast as you can process them, every single time somebody makes a report, putting unnecessary stress on a system that you want to run as fast as possible. This makes ROBLOX susceptible to DDoSing itself by just spamming shirt reports, something any amateur can write a bot to do easily.
So is there a solution to this? Actually yes, ROBLOX could pay for servers dedicated solely to checking reports and mirror only clothing templates on that server. And a dedicated server can be rented for as low as... $160 dollars per month! Wow, seems great, doesn't it?! No, not really. See, this dedicated server of yours only has 4GB of RAM and a 3.1 Ghz quad core processor. Which is enough to run your home computer but unfortunately...
Handling report requests 24/7 (and often multiple ones at the same time because you know damn well this isn't going to stop anyone from copying, they're just going to get caught more easily now) requires a LOT more power than your average run of the mill home computer. Let's say loading an image into memory, scanning it's pixels, and doing all the necessary calculations to decide if it's a copy or not takes only half of a second. Remember that 500k figure up there? Yeah, it's going to take 250k seconds to scan all images.
That's 2.9 days. And that's on an unstressed system, imagine now that you have several people reporting clothes copiers, suddenly that server is flooded with so much work to do at once it can't keep up. ROBLOX needs to buy more servers! But you can't just daisy chain two servers together and expect them to work, now your shirt checker needs a command server to receive requests and delegate them to the least stressed worker server. And you need someone to actually write all this software and maintain it.
And just how many servers do you think you will need at 3 days per scan? I can promise you it's a lot more than two. And that's before the harddrives start to bottleneck - because the brunt of the work is loading the image into memory instead of the CPU time it takes to handle it, HDD usage will be at it's limits once you throw up enough requests on one server, and the scan processes will start to interfere and slow each other down. No, you can't just keep all the images in RAM, one template may be only 250kb or so but at 500k of them that quickly exceeds 120 gigabytes.
So, really quickly, this cheap simple solution begins to spiral into ROBLOX having to spend tens of thousands of dollars monthly just for the servers to run the damn thing, which isn't even close to worth it for a system bypassable by changing the colors slightly." -Internecivus
"If I read your reply to me correctly, you're saying you want this process to not be performed by report but instead for EVERY piece of clothing created? That's going to require MUCH more servers than I estimated, I genuinely think you could run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars attempting that. I mean, how many people upload clothing each day?
Secondly, you mention that ROBLOX will have an easier time not having to host all these copied assets. Storage is cheap. Worker servers are very expensive. Hosting twenty million pieces of clothing assuming each template is 250kb totals to 5 terabytes. I can buy a 5TB h### ####e#####around 400 dollars as a one time fee.
An exactly copied asset actually costs ROBLOX almost nothing to host. The CDN stores files by it's hash. This means if I upload the same file that was already uploaded, the ROBLOX website will go "Hey I already have that, we'll just create a new shirt object and link it up to this old image".
(Hashing is also bypassable by literally changing a single pixel anywhere on the image so don't think it's going to be useful to prevent copying either.)" - Internecivus
Maybe you should actually read this instead of your only responses being "What's your IQ?" cause...if that's all ya got, then Good Game. |
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@Cantox believe it or not It was sort of tough trying to find the thread that belonged this information. Glad I did to point out this person' idiocy. |
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This should be a letter sent to Roblox. Support. |
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NilvouJoin Date: 2010-06-09
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"What admin though?"
"Which admin? You can easily be fabricating crap in an attempt to get your points across."
ethan from customer service
"Of course they say something irrelevant most of her responses to me was "What's your Iq?" when she responded to my posts."
i said whats your IQ in one post and you're STILL pressed over it? lmao i thought we were talking about this thread not the other one....
"Didn't I say there were two options to get recognition? "
idk, who are you again?
"believe it or not It was sort of tough trying to find the thread that belonged this information. Glad I did to point out this person' idiocy."
you had to prove yourself something? yeesh
although... i am FLATTERED you are wasting your not so precious time on me...
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NilvouJoin Date: 2010-06-09
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and i mean i can just post this again v
"Your report copy idea won't work either because none of the moderation on ROBLOX is done by hand."
Gee I didn't think you thought I was THAT stupid. I know how moderation works. I still suggested some things Roblox can do that doesn't require any fixing to the website.
"Finally, clothes designing honestly requires no talent or skill to do. It takes 10 minutes of googling for textures and about 5 minutes of using ################ draw tools."
https://www.roblox.com/catalog/881102327/Mary-Jane-Sleeves
Go ahead, I'm begging to see you make something similar to this in 5 minutes.
"Everyone I know who is actually skilled at graphics design (and even a certain really unskilled one I shall leave unnamed - a certain one who worked on a game ending in ":Remade" - yes you. You're terribad.) - has realized this and moved on to making thumbnails/icons/ads for games."
I make GFX too. GFX is SOOOOO much easier than designing LMAO YOU LITERALLY COPY AND PASTE PICTURES ON TOP OF ANOTHER JUST LIKE DESIGNING
"Without everyone being able to view it,clothing system is broken."
They can make a new one :D
They have the time to go in and always update the chat filter... why not clothes?
"I design, and if a 7 year old can make more money than you just by copying clothing, that's just somethig you have to deal with,because we can't stop it. He must have advertised it, just uploading clothing and stating that it is original doesn't get you anywhere"
But if someone copies a game it's suddenly so wrong and their account gets terminated :/// boohoo
"The real reason people buy the copies and not the original is it's easier to find"
That's an issue I addressed. Roblox needs to fix it.
"It would cost thousands, if not, MILLIONS to make a system."
whats your IQ?
"You know, I always see people saying that they'd earn so much more real money with Developer Exchange if it weren't for copiers, but really? Would you?"
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"First of all, you need OBC. A year of OBC IS ALMOST 400$!"
whats your IQ? [2]
who said we dev ex each month? who said some designs dont have lifetime OBC? i dont care about spending 400. if you make good money dev ex would pay for it itself, not to mention, i make pretty good money from youtube too....
"Then, you need to have obtained 100,000 robux or more from the day you joined."
I've ########### 1,478,429 robux in the past year STILL with people copying my clothes and this year I'm not on my A game with clothes. Does that give you an idea?
"400 robux = 5$"
rbx exchange sells it $2/1######r####n#####
"You wouldn't "earn" anything, you'd just get some money back."
sadly, since you make####i##o####### ###ldn't understand :(
"No company has wasted tons of money they could spend on further development"
whats your IQ? [3]
"Is stealing "supposed" to be wrong?Yes."
you answered your own questions yay clap clap clap
"Say you do manage to purge all initial copies to trim the catalog, what are we looking at now? I'd say at least 500k clothing assets would be unique, would you not agree?"
i haven't even made 500 clothes, so it gets a double thumbs up from me.
the rest is just boring stuff....you lost me pal
"Handling report requests 24/7 (and often multiple ones at the same time because you know damn well this isn't going to stop anyone from copying, they're just going to get caught more easily now"
you just backlashed your own comment lol
"Let's say loading an image into memory, scanning it's pixels, and doing all the necessary calculations to decide if it's a copy or not takes only half of a second. Remember that 500k figure up there? Yeah, it's going to take 250k seconds to scan all images"
whats your IQ? [4]
"That's 2.9 days. And that's on an unstressed system, imagine now that you have several people reporting clothes copiers, suddenly that server is flooded with so much work to do at once it can't keep up. ROBLOX needs to buy more servers! But you can't just daisy chain two servers together and expect them to work, now your shirt checker needs a command server to receive requests and delegate them to the least stressed worker server. And you need someone to actually write all this software and maintain it."
whats your IQ? [5]
"And just how many servers do you think you will need at 3 days per scan? I can promise you it's a lot more than two. And that's before the harddrives start to bottleneck - because the brunt of the work is loading the image into memory instead of the CPU time it takes to handle it, HDD usage will be at it's limits once you throw up enough requests on one server, and the scan processes will start to interfere and slow each other down. No, you can't just keep all the images in RAM, one template may be only 250kb or so but at 500k of them that quickly exceeds 120 gigabytes. "
whats your IQ? [6]
this is getting boring
" "tl;dr maybe later"
and then you want me to read your post..."
i never told u that u had to read it lol idc if u dont read this one go ahead dont try it and lets see how it turns out
"Man this ended as a train wreck...but I can't help but feel this is my fault."
you S&Iers are quick to say this thread is over but you'll be quick to reply and make it alive again once i say something!
"Man this thread has gone to hell..."
i like how u were replying to everything other person had to say after saying the thread is done....im bawling lmao
"I support, but free clothing is a dumb idea. Clothing makers would quit because only free clothing would be bought."
most of us want to make free clothes and to support people who actually need clothes. i would definitely not quit if i was able to make clothes free. i'm not in it for the money but it's still not fair to have it stolen from me and given to some person who doesnt deserve it
"All's well that ends well I guess."
omg i hope he's done
"You know in reality she had it coming too."
opppp nevermind
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NilvouJoin Date: 2010-06-09
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friendly reminder you have PAGES of copied clothing uploaded by you. it would only make sense for you to defend yourself to cheat the system by fraud.
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"you had to prove yourself something? yeesh
although... i am FLATTERED you are wasting your not so precious time on me..."
Kind of ironic how you say that yet you wasted your time making this thread...which as pointed out already has the flaws that Intern mentioned.
"ethan from customer service"
What's his Roblox username?
"i said whats your IQ in one post and you're STILL pressed over it? lmao i thought we were talking about this thread not the other one...."
The fact that you have to resort to the classic "Lol Umadbro? excuse is already showing your invalidity of how you manage to encourage roblox to actually implement this.
"idk, who are you again?"
Wow who is he? He's the guy who's been saying your idea won't work for many reasons while also saying if you have any alternatives feel free to reply to him I believe.
This word got censored by roblox for no reason but at the rate you're going it's pretty safe to say that you are: Ṗäẗḧëẗïċ. |
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"friendly reminder you have PAGES of copied clothing uploaded by you. it would only make sense for you to defend yourself to cheat the system by fraud."
Okay and? What does my copy clothes have to do with how your suggestion isn't going to work? At this point you're just pulling any sort of strings to get your point across even if it was trashed already. Once again you're still proving Ṗäẗḧëẗïċ you and your ideas are. |
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I mean I did say I wouldn't reply to you anymore but man...you're just so entertaining I can't help myself. |
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NilvouJoin Date: 2010-06-09
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"Kind of ironic how you say that yet you wasted your time making this thread..."
not really... making this thread didn't take me that long, i'm a pretty fast typer and it doesn't take me that long to think. but you did state it took you a while to search for something... just for me!
"which as pointed out already has the flaws that Intern mentioned."
which also pointed out OTHER options if any of the other ones did not work... and who is intern?
"What's his Roblox username?"
you expect me to know? if you care so much why dont you email roblox and ask for ethan
"The fact that you have to resort to the classic "Lol Umadbro? excuse is already showing your invalidity of how you manage to encourage roblox to actually implement this."
damn....
whats your IQ? [9]
it's pretty clear i said you're pressed but your brain failed to process and claimed it as a umad bro..................... u mad bro?
you yourself said roblox doesnt read forums. what makes you think their gonna read all the BS you said? either way i'm still talking to them through email
"Wow who is he? He's the guy who's been saying your idea won't work for many reasons while also saying if you have any alternatives feel free to reply to him I believe."
nope... gonna need receipts for that one, no one has said that lol.. i was put off by his character, idk what makes you think i bother to care what your username is
"This word got censored by roblox for no reason but at the rate you're going it's pretty safe to say that you are: Ṗäẗḧëẗïċ."
and how is that supposed to make me feel.......sad??? mad??? idk ....... not working
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NilvouJoin Date: 2010-06-09
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"Okay and? What does my copy clothes have to do with how your suggestion isn't going to work? "
hey dont steal my line
whats your IQ? [10]
i clearly stated you copying clothes would only make sense as to why you are defending yourself to cheat the roblox system by fraud.
don't be a fool please, you know i made like 10 suggestions on what we can do... just because one of them doesn't integrate with your pea brain doesn't mean i'm completely wrong.
"I mean I did say I wouldn't reply to you anymore but man...you're just so entertaining I can't help myself."
i mean i didn't wanna shoot the gun and say you were a hypocrite....but you are, which only gives me more claims to not take anything you say literal.
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"and how is that supposed to make me feel.......sad??? mad??? idk ....... not working"
The way you have been going on says otherwise honestly. :)
"not really... making this thread didn't take me that long, i'm a pretty fast typer and it doesn't take me that long to think. but you did state it took you a while to search for something... just for me!"
It would've gone quicker If I could find the thread...which I did eventually. Now you berate it and don't even bother to read it cause it just shows why your suggestion won't work.
"which also pointed out OTHER options if any of the other ones did not work... and who is intern?"
He was a forumer but no one has heard of him for a really long time, also did you not read the part about the storage system?
"damn....
whats your IQ? [9]
it's pretty clear i said you're pressed but your brain failed to process and claimed it as a umad bro..................... u mad bro?"
Here we go again with the "what's your iq" you really expect anyone to actually read YOUR BS if you can't even bother to actually respond to the statements I posted earlier?
"you yourself said roblox doesnt read forums. what makes you think their gonna read all the BS you said? either way i'm still talking to them through email"
So it's considered BS when I point out why your suggestion won't work? Man you really are Ṗäẗḧëẗïċ if you can't see that what those posts are meant to represent but then again I don't expect any less from someone as idiotic as you if you have to rely on the same "comeback" over and over.
"nope... gonna need receipts for that one, no one has said that lol.. i was put off by his character, idk what makes you think i bother to care what your username is"
Actually he did say that on THIS thread or the other one, like really? "I was put off by his character" That just proves that you hadn't took what he said to consideration nonetheless mine. What makes you think Roblox is going to consider what you're suggesting if you can't consider criticism?
I think what's going to end up putting people off is the fact that you can't handle criticism well, what makes you think Roblox is going to actually consider what you say if you can't even respond to simple posts without being idiotic and making irrelevant remarks.
You clearly have nothing to say or nothing to actually counter on that wall of text which just puts a huge dent in your idea and your logic.
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i mean i didn't wanna shoot the gun and say you were a hypocrite....but you are, which only gives me more claims to not take anything you say literal."
Yeah I know. And this just proves my point if you can't take anything what I say literal nonetheless cantox' what makes you think anyone else is going to take what you're saying literal if you can't respond to me or that wall of text with "What's your IQ?" |
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At this point you're obviously finished. GG. |
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do it
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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+copy+clothes
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"The way you have been going on says otherwise honestly. :)"
been going on? you mean replying to ur nonsense so i have a reason to bump my post?
"Now you berate it and don't even bother to read it cause it just shows why your suggestion won't work."
i have suggestions that work, but you still want to get upset over one of them
"Here we go again with the "what's your iq" you really expect anyone to actually read YOUR BS if you can't even bother to actually respond to the statements I posted earlier?"
i mean expect u to read it, and u do, lol
"So it's considered BS when I point out why your suggestion won't work?"
one of them won't work. big deal. you're still trying to argue over that. i never said that all of them would actually work, hence as why it is a SUGGESTION.
" I don't expect any less from someone as idiotic as you if you have to rely on the same "comeback" over and over."
but yet you come back for more! :)
"Actually he did say that on THIS thread or the other one, like really"
you didnt show me... and it didnt happen...
"That just proves that you hadn't took what he said to consideration nonetheless mine."
absolutely correct!
"What makes you think Roblox is going to consider what you're suggesting if you can't consider criticism?"
define criticism
"I think what's going to end up putting people off is the fact that you can't handle criticism well"
so i need criticism over a suggestion? LMAO i think it's time to take a break from S&I
"what makes you think Roblox is going to actually consider what you say if you can't even respond to simple posts without being idiotic and making irrelevant remarks."
what makes me think they'll consider it? the fact i was told to make two threads over this and an admin has read it and they're working on fixing it on the future. i don't think i had to remark anything except to reply to your nonsense... it's not like i brought this upon you, you could have simply said my idea wouldn't have worked because of this and so and so, you had it to make it completely argumentative, so don't aim the gun at me.
"You clearly have nothing to say or nothing to actually counter on that wall of text which just puts a huge dent in your idea and your logic."
i clearly had something to say i mean just read my suggestion? like did you even read it? seems like you read one sentence and a red flag went off in your pea brain.
"At this point you're obviously finished. GG."
finished with what? no, don't answer that one yet, what did i even start?
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NilvouJoin Date: 2010-06-09
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but like honestly i don't care? i know you're genuinely mad and i can just go at this all day so you stay upset. it's a suggestion kid, there's way more things you should be worrying about that are more important for you personally.
as for i, i know i'm not in the wrong for standing up for what's morally right. nuff said about that one
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CantoxJoin Date: 2012-10-19
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OP is slowly resorting to ad hominem.
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CantoxJoin Date: 2012-10-19
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"idk, who are you again?"
What does "who are you" have to do with this suggestion? You're starting to answer with more irrelevant things that it's getting laughable at this point.
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CantoxJoin Date: 2012-10-19
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"so i need criticism over a suggestion? LMAO i think it's time to take a break from S&I"
???
If you think "criticism" is unnecessary then what the hell are you doing on the forums in general?
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