Is there a way to truly generate a random number?

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#228380725Sunday, December 03, 2017 3:13 PM GMT

When people say nothing is random we really mean the mostly likely option between random exist and doesn't exist is that it doesn't But if you wanna be that exact no one can say anything "If I let go of this object it'll fall" Well no it will most likely fall, there are very unlikely things that could happen to prevent it fron falling And about "fate" being predetirmended, you can call it fate if you want, but really its just logic. You don't have the like it but free will is likely not real

JarodOfOrbiter

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#228381173Sunday, December 03, 2017 3:24 PM GMT

The argument is about quantum indeterminacy. The wiki page for is covered with 'we don't understand why we get random results', and a lot less covered with 'we get random results because that's how quantum mechanics work'. That's how I feel exactly, and why I hold the belief that nothing is random. We perceive it as random because we don't understand it, or why it produces results with no ostensible pattern. That doesn't mean there isn't a mysterious fifth force that we haven't seen yet, or perhaps a Fixion particle we haven't discovered yet.

Dollar500

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#228384873Sunday, December 03, 2017 4:41 PM GMT

To get the most random variable, you’d probably need some sort of quantum computer...

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#228385539Sunday, December 03, 2017 4:56 PM GMT

I have a question that relates to the string theory.. IF it was possible to calculate numbers from the vibrations of a string would THAT BE truly RANDOM?

spinywind

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#228392897Sunday, December 03, 2017 7:23 PM GMT

Using roblox Lua in general without math.random() or requesting randoms numbers from web servers.

Soybeen

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#228410573Monday, December 04, 2017 1:34 AM GMT

It's such a cop-out to say that there is no free will because you hold the certain belief that nothing is random. Isn't that like, religion?

spinywind

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#228410683Monday, December 04, 2017 1:37 AM GMT

Someone mentioned a custom RNG system. How would you make that without some type of semi random number generator such as math.random()?

Extuls

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#228410708Monday, December 04, 2017 1:38 AM GMT

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/a-better-random-number-generator/57990 See this post. A few replies down, an intern explains an upcoming feature.

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#228410793Monday, December 04, 2017 1:40 AM GMT

rng:NextInteger() thats ugly

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#228410883Monday, December 04, 2017 1:42 AM GMT

Well thats gonna be helpful. But yea im starting to understand that nothing is 100% random but you can come close to it. Thx anyways.

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#228411950Monday, December 04, 2017 2:09 AM GMT

"rng:NextInteger() thats ugly" Steer clear of C# my friend. Random r = new Random(); Console.WriteLine(r.NextDouble());

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#228412013Monday, December 04, 2017 2:10 AM GMT

its ugly for roblox lua, instance methods are the only other thing written that way so its strange to see it in a non instance