sil4nc3r1223
#71748758Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:53 PM GMT

^^^ But how did we gain consciousness?
TheRealCommander
#71751653Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:45 PM GMT

Things existing is not proof that god exists. And as far as i know we dont have the answer to why life and consciouscness exists, but saying god did it is not an answer either.
infinete
#71751840Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:47 PM GMT

This thread is definately going to start a flame war.
roblox23457320
#71756864Saturday, July 07, 2012 4:59 PM GMT

Consciousness is mearly a by-product of having a brain. If we define consciousness as the ability to make choices, then the point is proven.
Twigs180
#71757804Saturday, July 07, 2012 5:12 PM GMT

I really hate the whole God of the Gaps argument, and now that we have discovered the Higgs Boson particle, we are really getting closer and closer everyday to figuring out who what where when and why in the great mystery of life. To be honest, I have nothing against being spiritual until those practices infringe upon the practices of another, or you're just straight up stupid.
Saspoch
#71803660Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:48 AM GMT

All of this is true, make sure you read it all. There was no Bang Theory, the scientists just made that lie up because when they discover stuff they get alot of money but most of the stuff they discover is fake like the Bang Theory. The Creation 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 ¶ And God said, Let there be light: 2 Cor. 4.6 and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. 6 ¶ And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. 2 Pet. 3.5 And the evening and the morning were the second day. 9 ¶ And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day. 14 ¶ And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. 20 ¶ And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. 24 ¶ And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, 1 Cor. 11.7 after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Mt. 19.4 · Mk. 10.6 28 And God blessed them, Gen. 5.1, 2 and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
theoldfarmer22
#71812025Sunday, July 08, 2012 4:37 AM GMT

@legalizewater so did we just spawn here by our selfs? impossible.
Raximus
#71812354Sunday, July 08, 2012 4:42 AM GMT

i wonder how people got here
sinii
#71812679Sunday, July 08, 2012 4:46 AM GMT

In my opinion, it's an accident that we exist and we have absolutely no purpose in life.
roblox23457320
#71817581Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:08 AM GMT

So sasapoch whatever, you have no proof for your claims?
MrConservative
#71818521Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:24 AM GMT

@Everyone on the "God created everything" side I'm here to tell you that there is a flying spaghetti monster. It has always been here and it created life. Using YOUR logic, it must exist simply because you can't prove to me that it doesn't.
MrConservative
#71818592Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:26 AM GMT

How ELSE would humans get here? You didn't just pop up out of nowhere... A flying spaghetti monster created you. It makes PERFECT sense.
Raximus
#71818673Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:27 AM GMT

i thought humans were the makers of spaghetti? or did the great flying spaghetti monster inspire a holy devout pastafarian to make it in his image or was it simply here all along?
ClanWarVengeance
#71818683Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:27 AM GMT

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Raximus
#71818773Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:29 AM GMT

clanwarvengeance do you have the link to that thread i want to track it
ClanWarVengeance
#71818867Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:31 AM GMT

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Raximus
#71818933Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:33 AM GMT

interesting how that thread is [Content Deleted] but this one isnt
TyroneJones
#71819506Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:46 AM GMT

>Atheists suffer from a rare, aggressive form of unwarranted self-importance, which causes them to invariably and vastly overestimate their own intelligence, in stark contrast to their more temperate peers. It's mandatory for atheists, because if they're not the geniuses of Earth, they're forced into admitting that they're not always right and they don't know everything, which would mean that they are, in fact, basing their assertions on belief, which is something no atheist can bear to admit. ... Logical fallacy. Way to go.
sinii
#71819987Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:56 AM GMT

If all atheists "suffered" from that rare, aggressive form of unwarranted self-importance, then it wouldn't really be considered rare.
Raximus
#71820024Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:57 AM GMT

how many atheists are there in the world?
sinii
#71820537Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:07 AM GMT

I don't know, but I know that atheism is everywhere.
Raximus
#71821231Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:22 AM GMT

i wonder does it pale to the number of theists and agnostics
sinii
#71821350Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:24 AM GMT

There are more theists and agnostics than atheists.
Raximus
#71821409Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:26 AM GMT

so might it still be rare?
sinii
#71821933Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:38 AM GMT

Not really.