jason8630
#71329833Monday, July 02, 2012 7:41 PM GMT

Ice, Dre, and Ren pretty much wrote all of E's work.
gamert7
#71348360Monday, July 02, 2012 11:21 PM GMT

No Dre does not write his either it was either done by ICE Cube or the D.O.C. Now it is sometimes done by eminem and others.
LilLebron23
#71349148Monday, July 02, 2012 11:33 PM GMT

Who cares about Dr. Dre? The only thing that's keeping his fame is his headphones.
Brutecus
#71352989Tuesday, July 03, 2012 12:22 AM GMT

LOL are you serious? Dre is one of the most famous still around, get your facts straight. He's with eminem, and makes beats for him too. DO you know how famous Eminem is? And also he still does concerts with people. Including snoop-dog. They paid $500,000 for the 2pac holigram. His beats are actually a not even half of why he's still famous.
jason8630
#71358856Tuesday, July 03, 2012 1:36 AM GMT

@lil Dre is famous for way more than his beats. Fame isn't everything anyway. Also i do believe i read somewhere Dre wrote for him but i could be wrong.
LilLebron23
#71367772Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:28 AM GMT

I meant that it's like the only thing keeping his fame alive. People would still remember him and stuff...but it's the only thing that's keeping him from being a washed up artist.
jason8630
#71367902Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:29 AM GMT

How is he washed up when he's insanely rich? He owns a record label and has two sub divisions of his label and produces tons of songs. That's not washed up.
LilLebron23
#71368171Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:32 AM GMT

Honestly...read every word I say and put it together next time. I never called him washed up.
jason8630
#71368267Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:33 AM GMT

You basically did except for his headphones. I read what you said and it's pretty invalid.
jason8630
#71368389Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:34 AM GMT

and when you say something like this Who cares about Dr. Dre? The only thing that's keeping his fame is his headphones." You probably shouldn't even talk about music. If you judge someone by their current fame that's just plain dumb. That's the same as saying "who cares about Biggie he's dead." or "forget Ice Cube he does commercials now."
gamert7
#71372455Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:27 AM GMT

Okay you all need to get your facts straight. Dr, Dre is known for starting up eminem. Lets face it, without Dr, Dre there would be no eminem well there would be but, he probably would've quit rapping a long time ago. Jason your twisting words he said that is keeping his fame. That is part of keeping his fame yes but, lil also stated "I meant that it's like the only thing keeping his fame alive. People would still remember him and stuff...but it's the only thing that's keeping him from being a washed up artist." If he actually believed his headphones were his only thing keeping him around he would be indefinitely crazy. The person who said it best was SemiSh0x
jason8630
#71372590Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:29 AM GMT

^Actually he started in World Class Wreckin' Cru but then gained most of his fame in N.W.A and with Snoop Doggy Dogg but different topic I may have worded something wrong but he pretty much did say his headphones are his only fame now.
jason8630
#71372782Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:31 AM GMT

I just noticed these early posts but someone please...tell me this was sarcasm "Tupac is really MC Juice in discuse call me crazy but MC Juice is dopest one to ever do it and he makes great albums just does not get the promotion. Ya know i mean it all makes sense MC Juice dopest person to touch a mic brings off the tops that sound like they were lyrics to a song it all makes sense to me now."
LilLebron23
#71373023Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:35 AM GMT

I meant that other than his headphones...he's got nothing going right now. Yes, he does have his label and stuff, but if you don't understand when I'm saying...then I'm not the dumb one...and there would be an Eminem. I don't like his music now...but back then, he was great...someone else would have helped him out...eventually.
jason8630
#71373147Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:37 AM GMT

I never called you dumb in this thread. Eminem most likely wouldn't have been given a chance as white rappers ehm..weren't in high demand to put it lightly back then. Dre is simply doing his job. He's trying to act like a thug in his 50s or be a middle aged rapper who won't leave the game. He produces and sells records.
gamert7
#71373245Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:39 AM GMT

@jason very much so. But, he is still the dopest to ever kick a freestyle. @lil u need to understand that there would not be without dre because, if dre did not hear ems tape at that time then no em. because ven em said that he was gonna quit if it did not go any where that year.
LilLebron23
#71373267Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:40 AM GMT

Kay.
jason8630
#71373296Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:40 AM GMT

I would say Big L had the best freestyles but i only recall him having one the rest were a mix of written and free
LilLebron23
#71373519Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:44 AM GMT

MC Juice had whats arguably the best freestyles.
jason8630
#71373703Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:47 AM GMT

Just to throw this out there there's a mixtape from a couple years ago called Night of the Living Dead Part III that DJ Whoo Kid made that uses old Big L and Big Pun verses and remixes them to horror movie themes and if you really enjoy lyrical ability it's as lyrical as music can get. Most of the tracks should be on youtube
LilLebron23
#71373846Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:50 AM GMT

I'll check it out.
gamert7
#71375264Tuesday, July 03, 2012 5:14 AM GMT

ORLY. Here is a JU-ICE freestyle. Yo its really kinda funny MC Juice is my name i am about to kick something about the phony rappers in the game. I'm at the u pavilion wearing MC Juice medallions Brazilian or Sicilian ripping apart their whole battalion these pluralistic fall the the juice so infamous thought you censored always trying to be pimps in this biz and record labels always signing the most unrepresentable clicks that go platinum for grabbing on their censored and every single day while brothers die up in their mix all they rap about is glazing?? and sucking censored and i guess it really shows on the mic how i do it everybody know i got the microphone and the fluid brothers everywhere know on the mic i got the timing you really think your rhyming because billboard charts say your climbing i aint saying no names but, why u biting his style have this censored hanging in the casket with their crystal and all the record buyers be making buisness choices so why u beliving all these paternalistic??? voices its all the same the big really whack the unoriginal got the whole world beliving yall some criminals before them record deals they were broke and u can check it because true players don't have time for making records or no videos they to busy censored in the zone and if u got so much loot but out those records on your own and all this east vs west mess needs to stop acting like some little shorty's aint no body getting props cuz if they was they would not have to diss no other state no other crew just to put some food up on your plate i'll be like point blank this whole censored industry is whack but, this brother from the go go is gonna bring that lyricism back and alot of yall may not like the way i am getting loose so who ever wants to battle bring that mess to the juice because i rock the microphone and everybody know i battle right watch me fly the mic and rip the mother ving satellite aint no pimp in me freestyle and show no empathy marly should've been the 5th censored on the sympathy couldn't say the n word but, ima bout to spark it mc juice is dope monopoly lets free park it i go around the board on the mic i am just advancing in the game i'm the monopoly they don't have a chancing i ask MC's who wanna be hard rappers need a rap get out of jail free card. and then when i'm done they be laying in the middle i cook em with a gristle the penguin and the riddle i don't need to cuss get be headed. that is most of it just type in MC Juice wake up show freestyle for all of it.
LilLebron23
#71380627Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:11 AM GMT

Yeah, that's the first one that I saw. Then there's the one where he battles Eminem.
gamert7
#71381419Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:32 AM GMT

He demolished Eminem. I kinda felt bad for Em to be honest. Juice is epic for sure. He is so good people accuse him of writing his raps. seriously how do u come up with that monopoly ish off the dome its crazy.
LilLebron23
#71381472Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:34 AM GMT

I know...it's like he already had it written down, but he's just that good. Haha...No offense...Eminem just CANNOT freestyle...even in 8 Mile he wrote everything down.