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If "no support" alone is rude, then is "support" alone spam? |
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@Danno No,it is not
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People will still just say No Support because they just can't be bothered justifying their opinions.
Maybe you should add a filter that doesn't allow you to post if you've only wrote 'No Support' |
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Saying "no support" itself isn't disrespectful. If anything it's a vague response, when you give an actual reason as to why you don't support it, people become outraged, that is when users reply to you with ignorant statements. |
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Saying 'No Support' isn't mean/rude but it just is not helpful. You need to state a reason why you would give no suport to an idea. |
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xTreyDxJoin Date: 2012-05-14
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Good clarification!
People often compare the "No support"-card to the "Support"-card. They mean that if you support, you should also state reasoning. However, if you support something, you are, in most cases, agreeing to the conditions and suggestions in the post, and you might not have anything that could improve the idea.
A no-support post should include constructive critism and reasoning for WHY it is a no-support. What can be done to make this idea better, what can be done for you to support it?
When that is said, your post pretty much summed up that =)
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StanAdamJoin Date: 2011-11-20
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Erm, that's agreeable.
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StanAdamJoin Date: 2011-11-20
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w00t third page!
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watevs44Join Date: 2009-11-07
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Zebra,
Rule of thumb: If the OP cannot use your No Support and reasoning as a means of improving, it's insufficient.
That means "I just don't like it" is insufficient, you must tell the OP why you don't like it, so he can (attempt) to change to and make you like it.
(Note: This rule of thumb is subject to possible change in the future as it was quickly thought up)
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watevs44Join Date: 2009-11-07
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Reese,
Perhaps, if you plan on writing this again, you should be more explicit?
It seems that an unhealthy handful of people are missing the point.
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I wish we could agree on a more substantial terminology for the positives and negatives. Saying "Support" or "No Support" becomes too controversial between either belief or simple admiration.
But then again, these terms are already entitled within this community, so whether or not we change our expression of words, they would still apply the same meaning.
Thanks Reese for the clarification. Now that I think about it, there was a topic I wished to discuss about the differences of "Support". . . |
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ZebraPloxJoin Date: 2012-06-13
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'Support' and 'No Support' give no actual feedback. |
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The idea's on the threads are usually trolls, or people who don't listen. Saying "No support" shouldn't be a rude term, if someone did say "GET OUTTA HERE!" Yes that's rude, but how is "No support" a rude term, it's just the player suggesting "No support."
It's still criticism, which helps get better idea's it doesn't really offend anyone, nor is it hurting the players feeling. Reese I do not understand why players cannot say "No support" yes they may not give a reason, but I myself write long reasons, and I just say "No support" as a shorting rather then let them read a long paragraph, most of the idea's we get here are from older kids which can handle someone saying "No support."
Honestly, this idea isn't a great rule, I do get your point of view, but it's not a strong point of view... |
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I have to offer a dissenting opinion here. It seems at least forty percent of "ideas" that are seen nowadays are ill-conceived, completely pointless, and even intentionally provocative in nature. Such "ideas," if they can be called as such, merit little more than a "No support, Get out," etcetera. Before outlawing such replies, we should crack down on the "trolls" that plague the system.
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watevs44Join Date: 2009-11-07
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Flame,
"It's still criticism, which helps get better idea's"
No, it does not.
Absolutely not. "No Support" is a stance, it must be backed-up and substantiated with criticism.
If you say "UMG, FREE BC FOR A WEEK GUYS"
And I just say "No support"
You will never learn what's wrong with the idea. Never know how to fix it.
This forum would fall into an eternall cycle of
"PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE - NO, REALLY NO"
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"Reese I do not understand why players cannot say "No support" yes they may not give a reason, b"
See above. This forum would go nowhere.
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"But I myself write long reasons, and I just say "No support" as a shorting rather then let them read a long paragraph,"
Contradiction much?
- You write long reasons
- Yet you only say "No Support"
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"most of the idea's we get here are from older kids which can handle someone saying "No support.""
"Handle"? This isn't an emotion war. This is a function war. We're degrading the functionality of a No Support by itself, which is useless.
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watevs44Join Date: 2009-11-07
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Mort.
If trolls, report.
Otherwise, criticize. Or those ill-conceived ideas can never become great.
Either that or leave them alone.
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Support. Some people are like, 'NO SUPPORT. IDIOT' when they probably don't know what you're trying to say. You know, some people are idiots and just post 'tl;dr No support.' so support.
-:3 What. |
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Redsoxs4Join Date: 2011-06-15
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Ok. |
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No support. Get out. Lol jk. |
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I say no support if it's obvious why I don't... |
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I think we all needed this. |
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Sometimes a no support can be obvious in the idea.
But if you just can't grab what's making you not support right away,
then give reasoning. |
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