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jbg23Join Date: 2011-02-21 Post Count: 2163 |
this is capitalism
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Socialism doesn't work, and it's been proven throughout history. |
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Socialism doesn't work, and it's been proven throughout history.
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Examples being? |
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@Pizza North Korea, Cuba. |
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@Jimmy Cause all I need to do to become rich is be lazy, OF COURSE I SHOULD START RIGHT NOW! |
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Assuming an entrepreneur who worked hard in business to get a company started in the hopes of being able to take care of him and his family for the future is being lazy.
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Saying the wealth of companies should be spread equally between everyone connected to the company is completely bullcrap. The owner is the owner, the owner is not owner and workers. The owner is the one who owns the company and it's appliances, not the workers. If the workers feel they don't get paid for their labor then they can quit. |
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XC6Join Date: 2012-06-28 Post Count: 9179 |
"The owner is the owner, the owner is not owner and workers. "
but that doesn't justify why the owner should be paid more |
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@XC2 Because it's the owner's decision, nothing is stopping the owner from spreading out the income between everyone equally. It's their freedom to decide how much they want to keep and how much they give their employees who can quit if they think their labor is worth more. |
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XC6Join Date: 2012-06-28 Post Count: 9179 |
yes i know it's their choice but surely people should be paid in how much work they do, not their position |
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@xc2 That is up to the worker and the owner. I WISH I could own a business and employ the top workers for minimum wage, BUT THEY WOULD QUIT BECAUSE NO IDIOT WOULD GO TO COLLEGE TO GET A DEGREE IN ECONOMY TO WORK THE SAME WAGE AS AN UNDER SKILLED LABORER. |
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The owners don't simply force the workers to work for this and this, the workers have to agree to work for that set of amount. If they think their labor is worth more than other's it's up to the owner to decide whether to buy that labor.
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@xc6 lets see you try to manage a business. my dad has a small business of his own and he pretty much never has time to do anything. that's pretty much spitting on him for working hard when he's just trying to make a living. |
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"no there is no way you can become rich it is almost impossible"
STEVE JOBS' SUCCESS IS A MYTH! |
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pepper has never been in the position where the only reason you are surviving is because of government aid
thats why he is so incredibly ignorant and arrogant |
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"i do not know much about steve jobs life but i'll say he is one in a million"
there isn't just one rich person in charge of a business. doctors and dentists can become fairly rich too. one of my dad's friends is rich from being a dentist and has an amazing house with a pool. |
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so they're not one in a million, maybe 2 out of 30 |
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@Jimmie And you think your stupid social-democratic ideas(Which you just flip flopped to) will make it any easier? Like how you want to raise income taxes to help pay for even more government subsidies? |
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"@Jimmie And you think your stupid social-democratic ideas(Which you just flip flopped to) will make it any easier? Like how you want to raise income taxes to help pay for even more government subsidies?"
utopian dream |
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