whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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Oh no he only accepted aid from some counties. His foreign policy is good especially his solid stance against IL. |
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tomato12Join Date: 2009-03-12
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He is a traitor. He only accepted aid from certain countries because he is a stubborn idiot. Israel offers foreign aid, why should he push them around? They are atempting to help Turkey. So if you were hit by an earthquake and were homeless, you would not accept a tent from Israel, or you would still help them after giving you aid and relief?
That is absolutely disgusting. |
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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It's not a big deal. |
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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He is not being a traitor or anything for not accepting aid from IL. |
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tomato12Join Date: 2009-03-12
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It is a huge deal!
How dare someone betray the country who sends them foreign aid, and continues to send them foreign aid even after they begin to be hostile! Turkey should be thanking Israel if anything. |
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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The foreign relations breaking down were because of things that Israel did.
They didn't do anything to betray IL. |
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tomato12Join Date: 2009-03-12
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If you mean the Flotilla rai, that was Turkeys fault for blanking a blockade that the knew was there and was recognized as legal by the UN which was warned to turn back and broke nt the waters of Israel.
Breaking into any countries borders is responded with action, no matter what country. I don't know why you idiots think Israel is different. Turkey treating Israel like trash even after sending aid shows what kind of traitors Turkey is, they don't even care how much the country helps you, all they care is about their damn Islamist views. |
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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Except they were not in Israeli waters. When the raid happened they were actually in international waters heading in the direction of Egypt. |
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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So not traitor. If anyone, the traitor is IL. |
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tomato12Join Date: 2009-03-12
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They were not going to Egypt, they were going to Gaza. If they wanted, they could have sent aid through Israel to Gaza.
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Even if it was international waters, their motives was to break a blockade which is an international boundary. I am not 100% sure but I think Egypt has a blockade too. If they were going to either country, it is illegal. They could have gotten to Israel legally to send aid, this way, they could have been transporting weapons. |
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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They were transporting aid to PALESTINE not Israel. Egypt has no blockade. The point was to protest the blockade, there were many more ships in the flotilla.
Also the blockade is not legal. The UN doesn't say it's a legal blockade they say it's an Illegal blockade. |
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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They were transporting aid to PALESTINE not Israel. Egypt has no blockade. The point was to protest the blockade, there were many more ships in the flotilla.
Also the blockade is not legal. The UN doesn't say it's a legal blockade they say it's an Illegal blockade. |
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tomato12Join Date: 2009-03-12
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They were transporting aid to PALESTINE not Israel. Egypt has no blockade. The point was to protest the blockade, there were many more ships in the flotilla.
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Yes, but as I stated, there was a legal way to send aid to Palestine, and I proved it with a source that Israel sends them aid. Breaking a water blockade is illegal. Every country has the right to secure its water borders, like Canada gets rid of the illegal boats transporting coke. Why can't Isael?
Also the blockade is not legal. The UN doesn't say it's a legal blockade they say it's an Illegal blockade.
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The UN said that the blockade is legal, but both sides used excessive force in the flotilla incident.
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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The boat was carrying HUMANITARIAN AID.
Israel illegally used accesive force in INTERNATIONAL waters.
The blockade, the UN said, IS ILLEGAL.
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tomato12Join Date: 2009-03-12
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The boat was carrying HUMANITARIAN AID.
Israel illegally used accesive force in INTERNATIONAL waters.
The blockade, the UN said, IS ILLEGAL.
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It doesn't matter, you can send Gaza aid without breaking a blockade! I already proved this! Going into a country illegally s guess what...
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ILLEGAL!!! WOWIE ZOWIE!!!!
You don't need to break a blockade to send Gaza the aid they want. I already proved that you can legally go to Israel and legally send aid to Gaza from there. Every other country in the world has the right to secure borders, why doesn't Israel? Oh yes! Because people like you are desperate for reasons to be anti-Semites and are completely unreasonable! |
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tomato12Join Date: 2009-03-12
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Opinion on the legality of the blockade is mixed. In September 2011, a UN investigative committee concluded in the Palmer Report that the naval blockade is legal and had to be judged isolated from the restrictions on goods reaching Gaza via the land crossings. Concerning the restrictions on goods reaching Gaza via the land crossings the Palmer report stated that they were the main reason for an unsustainable and unacceptable humanitarian situation in Gaza.[17][18][19][20] UN envoy Desmond Tutu, United Nations Human Rights Council head Navi Pillay, the International Committee of the Red Cross and, according to Richard Falk, most experts on international law[21] consider the blockade illegal.[22][23][24][25][26]
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The UN has mixed opinions on this issue |
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gamert7Join Date: 2008-11-18
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>Caring about UN's opinion on anything. |
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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The whole point of the freedom flotilla was to go from the sea to Gaza. The point was to break the blockade. It was at the same time in protest of the blockade.
And if anyone is Anti-Simetic it's you. Palestinians are technically semites too, and you clearly have no respect for them.
On the other hand don't have any problems with semites, neither have i said anything anti-simetic against Palestinians or Jewish semites.
Israel's raid on the flotilla was ulawful because they do not have a right to board a ship that is in international waters without permission according to maritime law.
Also not only did they board the ship but they killed 9 civilians on board which also add's murder to their crimes. |
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tomato12Join Date: 2009-03-12
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The whole point of the freedom flotilla was to go from the sea to Gaza. The point was to break the blockade. It was at the same time in protest of the blockade.
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Which is a water boundary and therefore illegal.
And if anyone is Anti-Simetic it's you. Palestinians are technically semites too, and you clearly have no respect for them.
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Don't call people things which you cannot spell.
On the other hand don't have any problems with semites, neither have i said anything anti-simetic against Palestinians or Jewish semites.
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I never said you did.
Israel's raid on the flotilla was ulawful because they do not have a right to board a ship that is in international waters without permission according to maritime law.
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It had a goal to break Israel's borders. How did Israel know they weren't shipping weapons to Gaza? Exactly, they didn't. Of they wanted to deliver aid, they could have gone to Israel to do it. Stop ignoring that.
Also not only did they board the ship but they killed 9 civilians on board which also add's murder to their crimes.
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Israeli commandos went down with paintball guns. They were then beaten with sticks by the people on board. Israel did not do anything violent before that. Therefore, the "civilians" we're the aggressors. |
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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It was in international waters and therefore eboarding the ship was illegal.
You did call me antisimetic.
ISraeli troops shot aa cameraman in the head twice. They also shot from the helicopter. They murdered 9 people. And they used live ammunition and not paintball guns because you know PEOPLE DIED FROM THEM.
Illegally Boarded and murdered people. |
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tomato12Join Date: 2009-03-12
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It was in international waters and therefore eboarding the ship was illegal.
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Some in the UN say it was legal, some say it was illegal. It was legal, best to stop people before coming into your country than after.
You did call me antisimetic.
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I am sorry
ISraeli troops shot aa cameraman in the head twice. They also shot from the helicopter. They murdered 9 people. And they used live ammunition and not paintball guns because you know PEOPLE DIED FROM THEM.
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First paragraph.
Illegally Boarded and murdered people.
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It is legal to board a ship if they are going to breach your borders.
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tomato12Join Date: 2009-03-12
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Also, move this debate to the new WWC forum. This way I can post from school |
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whyattJoin Date: 2008-05-23
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it's palestines borders
plus they were heading towards egypt at the time |
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