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#88830262Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:23 AM GMT

>Just look up what GFA means -_- So much for the "R" in PLUR, huh?
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#88830291Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:24 AM GMT

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#88830382Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:26 AM GMT

>Neither of them were really bullies. Calling people names is bullying. >Bullies bully people to make them upset/mad. Not really. They do it to make themselves feel better about their own insecurities and it would make sense for Dahvie to feel insecure about his own self since he was also bullies throughout school. So Dahvie really can be seen as a bully.
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#88830421Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:27 AM GMT

>Well there wasn't dis-respect in that. Actually, yeah. That phrase possess a very sarcastic feel to it.
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#88830514Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:30 AM GMT

Zac, I feel like with the rebuttals you're giving me, you've basically given up. Do you just not want to live with knowing that the people who "saved your life" aren't really sincere about saving your life at all?
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#88830600Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:33 AM GMT

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#88830740Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:37 AM GMT

>That last one hurt... Truth hurts buddy. >Ever think they just do it for fun? Studies prove that this isn't the case. >I'm often bullied by the popular type kids. Invalid, since you don't know what goes on in their household. You don't know if they are suffering from insecurities because of stuff that happens back in the privacy of their home.
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#88830827Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:39 AM GMT

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#88830897Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:41 AM GMT

>Most of the time he's outside playing football and other stuff with other kids. He's rarely in his house. The reason for people bullying varies. It could be because of many things, so there's nothing you can really prove when you know nothing about this kid's personal life.
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#88830967Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:44 AM GMT

Zac, does the thought of realizing that Dahvie and Jayy don't sincerely care about "saving" your life scare you? Because you're in so much denial right now.
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#88831081Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:48 AM GMT

>They wouldn't make good songs if they weren't trying to save peoples lives. Let me introduce to you something that drives people to do literally anything. It's called money and fame. They wouldn't be bullying other people if they were serious about their anti-bullying position they claim to take.
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#88831126Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:50 AM GMT

I like how you somewhat avoided my question and didn't give me a direct answer to it. Telling me a lot y'know.
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#88831148Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:51 AM GMT

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#88831347Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:59 AM GMT

>so then they started making good songs. Because these kids are eating that garbage up. They were able to see that addressing topics like that in their songs would sell best because kids can relate to that. They can't relate to 'doing it' with people (BOTDFs older material). >Look at their newer albums, more meaningful stuff in them. Except all of their "meaningful" songs mean nothing, sine they do things that contradict the meanings of those songs. (Like bullying). And Fantasyland, a song from their newest album, is not very meaningful at all.
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#88831423Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:02 AM GMT

And please Zac, explain to me how Revenge P is PLUR.
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#88831553Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:08 AM GMT

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#88831615Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:11 AM GMT

>I don't know when you'll realize this, but they care. You obviously haven't been listening to anything I've been saying. Let me give you an illustration because you just aren't getting it. Let's say that I became a strong supporter of animal rights. To show that i'm serious about my stand I decide that I will go vegetarian, since meat consumption is contrary to the stand I decided to take. If I stay vegetarian, then i'm obviously true to my cause of animal rights. If I give up my vegetarian diet for a juicy steak, then I obviously was not serious enough about the stand to stay true to it. Same with with Dahvie's situation with bullying. >I've picked up that I can't give in, and I can't give up. I can pick that up from their songs as well. I mean, the message of some of them is just so obvious. But look, the thing that takes away the value of it is the lack of sincerity offered.
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#88831651Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:12 AM GMT

>What I got from the song is think before you do... I don't know how I got that xD Okay now tell me. Did you get any sense of: Peace Love Unity or Respect through that song?
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#88831746Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:16 AM GMT

>Yes, LOTS of love XXDD Zac, face it. Dahvie and Jayy don't mean anything they say concerning PLUR. Sad attempts at humor won't make the truth go away.
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#88831814Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:21 AM GMT

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