tentasticJoin Date: 2008-12-21
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This isn't turning off bevels from everyone's perspective. Just your own. |
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How stubborn can you possibly be?
You've been restating the same thing OVER and OVER again. You have no other argument then "make it optional" and "you won't see it" or "it is just for yourself", etc. I have stated many reasons why NOT to have it (other than happiness which is all you have) such as ROBLOX economics, in-game errors with this option, one-step closer to multiple platforms. All this highly beats out a small percentage of users who are unhappy. Most users either don't care or are happy for it as it benefits gameplay, enhance the game's look, and playing those games you never could due to lag. |
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@Tentastic How would that work? Im confused at what you are getting at.
@rocklee Yes I still understand the reasoning behind that. That's they're choice. I don't really see another solution, besides continuing supporting bevels and that sounds like a waste of time. For keeping bevels functional, this is the best solution. For a way to keep it there isn't anything ideal, so it really depends on how Roblox feels about disabling other features to make it work (if its turned on). I don't really see anything else to argue so Im done for now. Ill check back later tonight. |
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tentasticJoin Date: 2008-12-21
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You do realize your argument is completely invalid because what I'm saying doesn't effect any of that. At all.
All it does is make you see bevels despite the fact bricks don't have bevels. Everyone else can't see the bevels but you can because you have a code that makes bricks have bevels from your roblox player.
If you have a place where you want people to see bevels then in the desc tell them to turn their bevels on for that game.
Think of the bevels as "Artificial Bevels" because they aren't really part of the game. They don't have any effect on the game.
They may cause some lag for your computer to make bevels/render bevels for the bricks but it's so the place looks better as the way it was made. |
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There you go again. You are trying to explain something to me that you think I don't understand. All you say is it is optional, not all users see it. What your brain can't grasp is that updates won't work if this is optional and is turned on. Why is this? As the new updates don't account for bevels in game anymore (not just rendering, but NON-EXISTENT).
All you say is the optional factor of it, but then you don't even consider all the troubles ROBLOX will go through.
I don't even understand why you still bother arguing why this should happen. It clearly goes against WNTS. And what is put on the WNTS forum is what will never happen on ROBLOX. |
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KodakKid3Join Date: 2008-12-25
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No one seems to be understanding. You may not like bevels, but they have ruined months of hard work on games, built with thousands of bricks, that are now ruined. It looks horrifying. All of that work - gone. Now we can follow the Roblox vision of making everything look like plastic legos. Because, of course, we can't make things look realistic. Bevels never lagged me. Maybe you should get a computer that isn't a piece of crap. |
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Just wait for dynamic lighting, then you'll regret wanting bevels back. A millimeter-sized rounded edges don't cause drastic changes once the corners are sharp. |
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KodakKid3Join Date: 2008-12-25
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If all they got rid of are bevels, why is so much else damaged? I don't care for bevels themselves, but with this update, much more has disappeared, ruining what I've built. |
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It isn't because of bevels at all. Let's see you get in ROBLOX's spot and publish an update that works for the millions of variations in the computers when the company itself has very few. Not everything is guaranteed to work. |
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PolyhexJoin Date: 2007-07-07
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Kodak, the things that have disappeared besides bevels are most likely the result of bugs. This update was pretty big performance-changing-wise, so there's bound to be a few problems. Don't worry, let the staff know your worries via email and they'll see what they can do. Bevels are gone for good. |
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tentasticJoin Date: 2008-12-21
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Look. They may be gone for good for the updates right now; but eventually I'll bring this topic back up.
Meanwhile hopefully I can script to transform bricks into looking like beveled bricks now that you can drastically change the size to complete minuscule amounts.
But eventually; add an update that can rework bevels into the ROBLOX system, please. |
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PolyhexJoin Date: 2007-07-07
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Tentastic, try using the ROX BOX or other head mesh inside a brick to give it the beveled look. It's still very possible to have things be beveled, you just have to be creative. |
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tentasticJoin Date: 2008-12-21
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I just looked. It's completely square now. |
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PolyhexJoin Date: 2007-07-07
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All of the head meshes are, currently. It seems to be a bug. |
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"Bevels are gone for good."
I get a feeling everytime there's some feature change that I don't like, it's for good. Then again thats true for 95% of Roblox updates, bad, or not. We'll see if a mod reads this, but I doubt anything will come of it. Maybe in the distant future when running any Roblox game on an Insporon will work, it'll make a comeback.
What the heck, I'm just dreaming now. I will be happy if bevels become optional, but I guess I can live without it. The main reason I was irritated was because there was absolutely no warning. One day I'll get used to Roblox updates.
I guess I'm finally done with this thread. Now I can stip worrying about bevels and worry about that flickering fireplace I've been yearning for since 2010. |
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ShukleJoin Date: 2009-11-08
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Bevels create lag. Yeah, it might look cooler, but what is there to look at when you freeze, if you have a computer worth... Well, anyways, there are MANY different ways. You could try C-framing to make bricks on the wall. And for the wooden texture, you just need to make it more natural, and realistic, not just wood all the same size, stacked up on eachother. It doesn't look good like that. Just a tip.
-blockheads r smart |
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tentasticJoin Date: 2008-12-21
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Actually it does look good depending on how you do it.
In any case currently two of my cframing projects are ruined now just because of that update :/
Also meshes won't work cause they increase the size with the brick. In other words bevels will grow larger and be way out of size. |
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PolyhexJoin Date: 2007-07-07
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That's why mesh scaling exists. :I |
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tentasticJoin Date: 2008-12-21
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Mesh scaling is what makes it go way out of size. If you were to expand it and keep the scale at the size of the brick the bevels would be enlarged as well.
If we want realistic bevels to be optional we need roblox to add them. |
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Alton3144Join Date: 2009-01-09
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Nope it is a good idea to not but to much work on older pc anyways u mad? I bet EBR is :3 use meshes and if you don't like the updates quit roblox terms are that the site can make Any changes or the roblox programs with or with out notice :P |
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ZukaroJoin Date: 2009-04-14
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"I can defitely that bevels create a lot of lag, but in some places they were worth it. I san also see how it make dynamic lighting much easier as well, with the seams and all.
I guess my point is that there should be an option; even if it's defaulted off. Some places (specifically those just meant to e beautiful and nothing else) use this a lot. We should have the option to upgrading to dynamic lighting and removing bevels"
Actually, most places that are meant to look nice DO NOT use bevels. There's very few places you can use bevels and have them look nice. It's not impossible, but still.
Also, MANY MANY places have been ruined by bevels. And why should I HAVE to add a brick mesh to remove the bevels? Can't it be I add a bevel mesh instead if I want one?
I don't think bevels should be removed entirely, but I think there should be the option to have them as a mesh. But not the option to view bricks with bevels (we have that option already); as if I'm building a vehicle, I want everyone to see it the way I do, otherwise it's not going to look good for them. |
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I support. Hours of my work have been destroyed. I am not going to go through all of my building and make them look acceptable. This is the first update that has actually made me want to quit. I've been using bevels for years and now most of my building looks awful.
-Under the green umbrella trees- |
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PolyhexJoin Date: 2007-07-07
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It looks fine. Tiny rounded edges do not make or break how something looks. If you seriously think that's the case, then you are doing something very, very wrong. I saw the addition and removal of bevels, and trust me, they do NOT help things look good. |
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To me bevels looking good is strictly a matter of opinion. A few people like them, a few hate them. Others probably don't care at all. I would just like to have the option, although this has already been talked about earlier. There isn't much to argue that we haven't already gone over. |
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