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No it shouldn't. Just because its available, doesn't mean everyone will use it. |
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"One who has a mind can guess. I remember not as many people had BC back in 2010 before BC games then after they came out in early 2011."
As I said, statistics please. The only thing you have there is personal reference that number of BC members increased from 2010 to 2011, which is expected anyways and has no link to BC games with the statistics to prove it. Every year the number of BC members increases I'm sure, regardless of what content was released that year. Without the data for analysis we can not determain what effect BC games had on BC membership.
"What I'm trying to say is that just stop making more places where scammers can go. It's bad enough they scam the front page with their copied crap"
But the argument is still the same point that can apply to anything users make. Selling VIP passes is easily scamable, why don't those get banned/removed from being sellable in the first place? Just because people CAN abuse something, doesn't mean it should never happen in the first place.
"Actually a lot of debates have insults used in them. Maybe take a debating class, k?
Not a proper debate. If you use an insult in a debate class your opponent should almost always call out your Ad Hominem. It's an effective way of showing their argument is based on emotion, not fact. I have been in debate classes, and I thought about joining my college's debate team with my friends, but decided against it, they went into it and we talked a lot about it. ;3
"The more updates we bring to Roblox the angrier people will get,this being one of them. People will eventually try to burn down the Roblox HQ"
Again we see the use of a Slippery Slope argument. Besides, by that merit we should get rid of everything ROBLOX didn't start with, because no one likes updates. No more tickets, no more clothing, just users with one place, and not even truss parts or GUI or Custom Size formFactors. |
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"As I said, statistics please. The only thing you have there is personal reference that number of BC members increased from 2010 to 2011, which is expected anyways and has no link to BC games with the statistics to prove it. Every year the number of BC members increases I'm sure, regardless of what content was released that year. Without the data for analysis we can not determain what effect BC games had on BC membership."
But BC games probably did increase BC sales a bit, which was most likely the goal of the devs.
"But the argument is still the same point that can apply to anything users make. Selling VIP passes is easily scamable, why don't those get banned/removed from being sellable in the first place? Just because people CAN abuse something, doesn't mean it should never happen in the first place."
New suggestion pls
"Not a proper debate. If you use an insult in a debate class your opponent should almost always call out your Ad Hominem. It's an effective way of showing their argument is based on emotion, not fact. I have been in debate classes, and I thought about joining my college's debate team with my friends, but decided against it, they went into it and we talked a lot about it. ;3"
Presidential Elections please, they do it all the time.
"Again we see the use of a Slippery Slope argument. Besides, by that merit we should get rid of everything ROBLOX didn't start with, because no one likes updates. No more tickets, no more clothing, just users with one place, and not even truss parts or GUI or Custom Size formFactors."
Yeah what that guy said was a little extreme |
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Support! I'm not gonna pay from 25-250 robux just to simply play a game. Better things could be spent with that robux.
#~I want you! I need you! I love you! Haato no oku, Janjan afureru itoshisa wa Hebii rooteeshon!~ |
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warponJoin Date: 2010-04-28
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paid access sucks.
'nuff sed |
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lol, roblox is still free, i don't like paid access. but... I support this thread! |
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"But BC games probably did increase BC sales a bit, which was most likely the goal of the devs."
Yes, they probably did, but not a significant enough amount to be used as some argument of some major slippery slope point.
"New suggestion pls"
Don't need a new suggestion, I simply applied your logic to something else to provide an example and back my case.
"Presidential Elections please, they do it all the time."
Presidential Elections, and Politics in general, are not proper debate. Time and time again people get frustrated by the fact that bureaucracy often gets caught up insulting and arguing rather than debating, which is the purpose of having them in the first place.
In the end Paid Access is still a feature that will be used only by a minority, and it will aim for success in a niche market, such as early access copies of in development games, beta builds that let people test upcoming features, etc. This adds new avenues of revenue, and more power over user content, and that's a good thing. |
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paid acess = scam galore
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ROBLOX is like Harry Enfield
Money, money, money, and loads more money
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lol @ tec the butthurt fregggot lol |
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I have no say in this but..
Paid access should be removed and thrown into an alternate universe. |
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perfect theme for the thread
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBISfv-6hfo |
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Well Wide, I can see your frustration in not being able to make a viable point. :3 +10 points me I s'pose. Nice try with the flamming though, and the other threads, shows a level of desperateness to upset me, just so you can feel not as bad about the fact I have exposed the lack of a point here. :3 |
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"+10 points me"
lol what an idiot, you are full of both BS and yourself; go suck your arse with a straw lol |
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@wide
10/10
@tecmag
Just when I thought you were better than this...
(lol this guy made one of those medieval rps btw)
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also
IT'S FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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"FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
brb crossing out with invisible crossing out thingy
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Ad hominem won't make me any less right. ;3
"you are full of both BS and yourself"
Really, because you still have yet to debunk my point. Not to mention saying "+10 points me I s'pose" doesn't make me full of myself, it makes me able to have a sense of humor, something I would be sad to hear not everyone here has.
"Just when I thought you were better than this..."
Better than what? Making a valid argument based on logic and fact? Sure is hard to be better than that. Yet you give 10/10 to obvious flaming with no backing. Hm, shows how much your opinion weighs.
In the end what I said still holds true,
"In the end Paid Access is still a feature that will be used only by a minority, and it will aim for success in a niche market, such as early access copies of in development games, beta builds that let people test upcoming features, etc. This adds new avenues of revenue, and more power over user content, and that's a good thing."
And nice to know that you've heard of me, always does bring a smile when people recognize me. |
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"such as early access copies of in-dev games, beta builds that let people test upcoming features"
It will only ever be good for that though, other than like museums that take 90000000000000000 years to build
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"It will only ever be good for that though"
Please look up "personal incredulity" as I think it will help you understand where I am coming from when I say this.
Just because you personally can not see a use other than that, does not mean that there are not other uses. Just because there are only so many uses now, doesn't mean there will never be more. The community could find all sorts of interesting ways to use this new feature, I guarantee that.
And even if those niche uses are the only ones to ever end up viable, isn't it still a good thing to have those? I personally couldn't justify taking away those new potentials that have been opened simply because outside factors. |
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This paid access thing can easily be abused.
User A is the one selling paid access
User B pays for it
User A :ban User B
User B just wasted robux. |
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