krotomo1
#106772498Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:18 PM GMT

Paid Access is completely useless. It does pretty much nothing. Buying games for Paid Access is too much of a gamble to even bother with, and most of the Paid Access games are actually the crap that Roblox said they wanted to get rid of. So it doesn't force people to buy BC, nor does it improve game quality. It's just a failed experiment.
wastefultreeman
#106773259Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:24 PM GMT

I don't play games that often, and the games I do play, the people don't plan on making me pay to play them. They are more than happy to get their 1 tix. Don't play the games that you have to pay if you really don't want to. I don't plan on paying any money at all to play a game, as that is completely ridiculous(imo)
TecmagDiams
#106773570Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:27 PM GMT

"This paid access thing can easily be abused." A valid argument, bit my only problem is that's just as not allowed as false advertising a Paid Access game. Again this is a problem with a user, not the feature. I can see why that's a concern though. "Paid Access is completely useless." We've already been over a handful of the uses. :3 " Buying games for Paid Access is too much of a gamble to even bother with" Now this point I totally get. Which is why I will personally only buy access to games from reputable users with clearly defined places. Just the same as if I ever user it, I want to make sure I use it for something like Access to a beta build of a game that I make stuff on, and then port it to my normal, and I would have that clearly defined and advertised. It's really just about personal navigation techniques for Paid Access. Just don't treat it like every other game and you could get great, worthwhile use out of it.
ForceSky
#106773731Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:28 PM GMT

Support.
SystematicAntipathy
#106774017Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:31 PM GMT

Support. Because if you actually DO pay to play, it could be a mislead or a scam, which brings us to the idea of refunds... Or it could be full of ODers, in which case you could bust out your ODer police badge and report them.
CoolJohnnyboy
#106818858Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:11 PM GMT

"Yes, they probably did, but not a significant enough amount to be used as some argument of some major slippery slope point." Still increased BC sales, whether a little or a lot. Point proven. "Don't need a new suggestion, I simply applied your logic to something else to provide an example and back my case." Well you were talking about a wonderful idea of things being scam proof "Presidential Elections, and Politics in general, are not proper debate. Time and time again people get frustrated by the fact that bureaucracy often gets caught up insulting and arguing rather than debating, which is the purpose of having them in the first place" Technically we are arguring over ROBLOX politics, which makes this even more sad, considering this has been going on fro 100+ posts now "In the end Paid Access is still a feature that will be used only by a minority, and it will aim for success in a niche market, such as early access copies of in development games, beta builds that let people test upcoming features, etc. This adds new avenues of revenue, and more power over user content, and that's a good thing." Yes but not too many people are willing to pay 25-250 robux for a stupid game when they can buy a limited and make a bigger profit
Troublemaker3544
#106819250Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:14 PM GMT

op needs to either buy bc or get off roblox -Trouble
Borowng
#106821233Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:31 PM GMT

I believe you get refunded if roblox finds it to be a scam.
TheTwister96640
#106872838Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:11 AM GMT

Wow a load of people posted on this thread. Feel free to leave more! :P
crazywinner5104
#106874985Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:26 AM GMT

Ranted about.
Ipisimus
#106875395Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:29 AM GMT

I support, and I have 100k tix...
TecmagDiams
#106907579Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:40 PM GMT

"Still increased BC sales, whether a little or a lot. Point proven." No your point is not proven by that. You tried to make a point that says the increased sales from BC games lead to the Paid Access for more money. To prove that they where linked you would need a visibly large enough effect, and all you have is a potential, theoretical small impact. "Well you were talking about a wonderful idea of things being scam proof" I was responding to your argument about it being, 'a door to scamming.' "Technically we are arguring over ROBLOX politics, which makes this even more sad, considering this has been going on fro 100+ posts now" Actually we are debating over our reactions to a feature we have no control over. In the end this is not a democracy or a republic, we have no actual say, only suggestions, and it hasn't been going on that long, don't exaggerate. YOU may be arguing, that's fine, I'm debating. Still then comparing this to politics doesn't make logical fallacy suddenly valid argument. It isn't valid in politics, it's just a bunch of mud-slinging. "Yes but not too many people are willing to pay 25-250 robux for a stupid game when they can buy a limited and make a bigger profit" Most limited items that pay off don't cost less then 250 R$, and as I already pointed out plenty of people have plenty of R$ to spare. That's all that matters, the feature will get use, no matter how little, it has a clearly defined niche.
Borowng
#106909428Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:07 PM GMT

It has no negative effect on roblox so it won't be removed.
TheTwister96640
#106928953Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:37 PM GMT

It does. I assure you. It makes ROBLOX a game where it makes you either pay for builder's club or robux.
TecmagDiams
#106929219Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:39 PM GMT

"It does. I assure you. It makes ROBLOX a game where it makes you either pay for builder's club or robux." Or you could just play some of the hundreds of thousands of games that don't have Paid Access.
HalfPinky456
#106929335Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:40 PM GMT

STOP. All you BCs that hate this, quit it. You guys got your robux, so why are you here? On topic now, support. -You people are impossible-
TecmagDiams
#106930056Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:46 PM GMT

"All you BCs that hate this, quit it." So you want bias, and not the whole story. Wow. "You guys got your robux, so why are you here?" Because it was posted on the S&I board, and I frequent this board, for the purpose of expressing my views of how ROBLOX can be better, and how we as a community can influence it to be so with our voices backing well thought out ideas. This feature improves the ROBLOX experience for people regardless of if they have BC or not, they can use this feature to provide content with more control over it's distribution, and it's purpose. It also opens a new way for NBC members to earn R$, and I personally think that's great. It rewards content makers, which content making is what ROBLOX is based on.
Borowng
#106930419Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:48 PM GMT

So in this case you want us to make all hats free to? Because they cost to much?
TheTwister96640
#106932788Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:07 PM GMT

Honestly who wants to pay for a game. You don't realize a load of spammers, scammers, etc. will use this unprofessionally.
Borowng
#106934338Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:20 PM GMT

The comments are always on for paid games so you'll know if its a scam.
MAMS303
#106936505Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:36 PM GMT

No support. Not all games will be paid access, or at least not overpriced. And it is a good way to make money, and in turn be able to make your game and character and groups and stuff better. ~No support by the way~
TheTwister96640
#106939170Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:59 PM GMT

NBC only get 10%. So obviously they are trying to create a bias to make people get robux so ROBLOXA can lay in their own vomit.
padam11
#106939997Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:06 PM GMT

One report, and they will review it to see if it is a scam or not. If it is, then it will be shutdown and you will be refunded. Simple idea: Dont play the games. And ooh, I'm alive, I'm alive, I'm alive And ooh, I can fly, I can fly, I can fly And ooh, I'm alive, I'm alive, I'm alive And im loving every second minute hour bigger better stronger power [beat break] I got that power I got that power I got that power Power power power They call me will-A Stay so cool, i'm chilley I done made that malley On my way to that valley Used to have a piggy bank, but now I got that bigger bank. Who who cares what the haters state They hate on me cause we doing what they cant I stay on that hussle, I flex that loose to muscle Hate to bust your bubble Im on that other level Imma take it higher and high and high and higher I stay and buy attire Keep burning like that fire And ooh, I'm alive, I'm alive, I'm alive And ooh, I can fly, I can fly, I can fly And ooh, I'm alive, I'm alive, I'm alive And im loving every second minute hour bigger better stronger power [beat break] I got that power I got that power I got that power Power power power Yes yes yes y'all feeling funky fresh y'all Work to be the best y'all We're good under pressure y'all Been through all that stress y'all Get this off my chest y'all Made it out in project where this project that's progress y'all I beat it through my mama I told her when I was younger That I'ma be that number One day I'll be that number 1 I take it higher and high and high and higher I stay and buy attire Keep burning like that fire Whatever doesnt kill you, only makes you stronger So I'ma get stronger Call me like a veteran, veteran I lock lock it down and go again Call me like a veteran, veteran I lock lock it down and go again And ooh, I'm alive, I'm alive, I'm alive And ooh, I can fly, I can fly, I can fly And ooh, I'm alive, I'm alive, I'm alive And im loving every second minute hour bigger better stronger power [beat break] I got that power I got that power I got that power Power power power And im loving every second minute hour bigger better stronger power And im loving every second minute hour bigger better stronger power
padam11
#106940049Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:07 PM GMT

Oops I accidently pasted a song sorry
Borowng
#106941619Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:21 PM GMT

Well it's a bit obvious BC players will get an advantage otherwise no one would buy BC.