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#PriceFloor
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SuperfryxJoin Date: 2011-08-01
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I love the price floor though.
~local Superfryx=game.Workspace.Awesomeness |
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@Super
Well it's you who likes it.
take that annoyance somewhere else.
thnx. |
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DespairusJoin Date: 2008-09-03
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@deltav,
"List them all."
I would if datastore even said what the reasons were, but if anything it could be proved wrong with my eyes closed.
"There are alternate ways for NBCers to get the money for the clothes. I'll recommend TCing since you have under 15 days to do it. There are guides you can find and it can get you a lot too."
That brings up another problem. Tix inflation, which ruins TC rates, and roblox still has done nothing to resolve. And also note that the price floor has increased TC profiting which is BAD and ruins the rates even more.
"DevEx actually gives them profit instead, and the ecomony system in ROBLOX is designed so even at the worst case scenario where all of the ROBUX was converted to real money using DevEx, they would still have 90% of the money used to buy the robux in the first place, at minimum."
I don't get a single you just said or why it was pulled out of thin air... |
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DataStoreJoin Date: 2012-02-07
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@Desp,
1) Well, yes the community as a whole are whining. 100 Tix is affordable. Also, just because you've had something for "six years" doesn't mean there's a hidden policy somewhere which makes it forbidden for any changes to occur to it.
I don't think I'm higher than everyone else, nor do I discourage others, I'm just incredibly tired of people raging constantly about something that isn't going to change, and shouldn't.
2) Like? What paths would you of preferred they went? People who were doing it for fun were destroying the profits of those attempting to make money out of it. At least this way that doesn't occur.
3) And who said it was suggested by BC? Just because someone wishes to actually make money, doesn't make them greedy. You know that, right? People who were selling their clothing for a couple of tickets were killing the sales of others. It was unfair.
4) Wait, wait wait. A second ago you claimed you proved them all wrong, yet you can't list any?
- Makes people spend their money more wisely instead of them going out and buying a shipload of clothes which look awful.
- Improves the quality of items, since people are (or at least should be) more picky it encourages people to put more effort into what they sell, otherwise they won't sell anything.
- Allows clothing creators to actually have an income that's like those developing games, which they were unable to do before since those doing it for fun were driving prices down.
- Slows copying (if you think about it). Why buy a (perhaps) degraded version, when you can get the original for the same amount, or less?
And so on.
5) It was an example date. I'm sorry I don't keep a calendar for when X, Y and Z happens on ROBLOX. Also, I disagree - if you "grow up" with a high price of clothing you would accept it, and move on. At that time people would be HAPPY that they could at least get an item, if they wanted to. ROBLOX isn't all about clothing.
6) DevEx is a good strategy. Very few people will cash out with it, but you'll have those who will buy OBC as they believe they could, this increases the amount of money ROBLOX makes. It also increases ROBLOX's userbase as it attracts older users to the site, and also theoretically increases place quality. Who said ROBLOX introduced the price floor for DevEx? Nobody. Whilst people disagree with it, it was a good move on ROBLOX's part.
7) I still don't think you're listening, and besides I don't believe they'd get heaps of money from ad revenue - Google pays a pittance, and many now use AdBlock. And, as I said, they will funnel their profits into development, recruitment, etc - is that really such a bad thing? Again, as I said, they don't pocket the profit for the staff's benefit - it's put back into the game.
8) It's funny how you can't come back with anything but that of the lowest retort.
Oh, I'm also sorry for the late reply - I don't usually reply to threads that have been starred (due to their views) as I never see much point. |
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I completely agree, the price floor is garbage.
But it's not going anywhere. |
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AlmiteeJoin Date: 2011-06-28
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@Desp, I don't even understand why YOU of all people are complaining about price floor. You had 500 robux to buy that TopHat, but sit here whining that Roblox sales are to much. Spend your money wisely, and it doesn't take 15 nor 20 days to earn 100 tix, it takes ten days, and some place visits so don't whine, do something make a game sell dev products even NBCers can do that. |
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DespairusJoin Date: 2008-09-03
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@Desp,
"1) Well, yes the community as a whole are whining. 100 Tix is affordable."
It's barely affordable, if you have to wait 10 days for it.
Also, just because you've had something for "six years" doesn't mean there's a hidden policy somewhere which makes it forbidden for any changes to occur to it. "
I never said there was a hidden policy. Quit twisting my words, and also, is a hidden policy more important to them than half of their community in an uproar against it? What a great listening company.
"I don't think I'm higher than everyone else, nor do I discourage others, I'm just incredibly tired of people raging constantly about something that isn't going to change, and shouldn't."
It CAN happen, and there's no reason it shouldn't. You're just happy you bought enough cheap clothing beforehand and a gold dominus so you go around and discourage others with things you pull out of thin air that you claim is true, about a company that you claim to know everything about.
2) Like? What paths would you of preferred they went? "People who were doing it for fun were destroying the profits of those attempting to make money out of it. At least this way that doesn't occur."
That doesn't mean they should go overboard and let them get 100 tix for every clothing, thus ruining NBC and clothing makers who were doing it for fun. And they could another path, like perhaps, LOWERING it.
"3) And who said it was suggested by BC?"
The fact that no NBC'er in their right mind would support such an idea.
"Just because someone wishes to actually make money, doesn't make them greedy."
This is 100 tickets for a virtual image that took less than one minute to make. 20 tickets would be good enough. They should be glad they get anything at all.
"People who were selling their clothing for a couple of tickets were killing the sales of others. It was unfair."
Oh sure, and it's not unfair for NBC to have to wait 10 days for their clothing?
It wasn't at all, killing the sales. Everyone claims that yet they don't even have any evidence of it.
"4) Wait, wait wait. A second ago you claimed you proved them all wrong, yet you can't list any?"
You didn't state any of them yet
"- Makes people spend their money more wisely instead of them going out and buying a shipload of clothes which look awful."
1. Clothing quality has not even changed in any way before and after price floor. 2. Why exactly do they suddenly have to "spend their money wisely" after 6 years?
"- Improves the quality of items, since people are (or at least should be) more picky it encourages people to put more effort into what they sell, otherwise they won't sell anything."
There has not been the slightest change whatsoever in the catalog, and there's no fun in clothing making anymore all because roblox let their greed get the best if them.
"- Allows clothing creators to actually have an income that's like those developing games, which they were unable to do before since those doing it for fun were driving prices down."
Because it should have never been made into a serious thing. Why should designing a virtual image have any competativity towards developing games? It was fine how it was before, and you could get even more recognition before, but the total sales in all general clothing have decreased.
"- Slows copying (if you think about it). Why buy a (perhaps) degraded version, when you can get the original for the same amount, or less? "
Except that's not true, because a year ago, I copied the most famous classic shirt and sold it, and people still buy it daily when i put it back on sale.
And so on. :)
5) was just subjective, however
"ROBLOX isn't all about clothing."
Really? So why then, does roblox make it into such a big deal that it's competing with games now?
"6) DevEx is a good strategy. Very few people will cash out with it, but you'll have those who will buy OBC as they believe they could, this increases the amount of money ROBLOX makes. It also increases ROBLOX's userbase as it attracts older users to the site, and also theoretically increases place quality."
So roblox has a lot of money now? Then money isn't a problem for lowering price floor I suppose.
And i already know about what devex does, no need to explain.
"Who said ROBLOX introduced the price floor for DevEx? Nobody. Whilst people disagree with it, it was a good move on ROBLOX's part."
Nobody brought up devex having to do with price floor, however it is somewhat relevant to it, money-wise.
"7) I still don't think you're listening, and besides I don't believe they'd get heaps of money from ad revenue - Google pays a pittance, and many now use AdBlock. And, as I said, they will funnel their profits into development, recruitment, etc - is that really such a bad thing? Again, as I said, they don't pocket the profit for the staff's benefit - it's put back into the game. "
And how would you know anything about how roblox runs their company?
"8) It's funny how you can't come back with anything but that of the lowest retort. "
What are you referring to? I don't need your subjective claims anyway. |
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deltavJoin Date: 2008-01-01
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1)"It's barely affordable, if you have to wait 10 days for it."
-Get to work ye bum!
As for your place not being popular (which you mentioned in a different thread), it's because you are trying to fit into an already-filled niche with an inferior product. You will need a lot more disasters to survive in order to make it popular. Either that, or you will have to go back to the drawing board and think of something different to build.
2)"I never said there was a hidden policy. Quit twisting my words, and also, is a hidden policy more important to them than half of their community in an uproar against it? What a great listening company."
-Quit twisting his words, he never said that a hidden policy would be more important to them. There is none.
3)"It CAN happen, and there's no reason it shouldn't. You're just happy you bought enough cheap clothing beforehand and a gold dominus so you go around and discourage others with things you pull out of thin air that you claim is true, about a company that you claim to know everything about."
-Ad hominem, assumptions. Don't attack people based on what they are wearing. That is one of the things you are against, what with the whole "people cant afford clothes so they are treated like noobs" thing.
4)"That doesn't mean they should go overboard and let them get 100 tix for every clothing, thus ruining NBC and clothing makers who were doing it for fun. And they could another path, like perhaps, LOWERING it."
Except that would be detrimental to the people that currently benefit from the price floor.
5)"The fact that no NBC'er in their right mind would support such an idea."
No smart NBC supports the price floor! Every NBC'er who supports it should have his/her opinion discounted based on jack flop!
Nuh.
6)"This is 100 tickets for a virtual image that took less than one minute to make. 20 tickets would be good enough. They should be glad they get anything at all."
It usually doesn't take 1 minute to make. Or 10 minutes. If they can manage to make a perfectly fine product in under 10 minutes, then they are probably very good at their job.
7)"Oh sure, and it's not unfair for NBC to have to wait 10 days for their clothing?
It wasn't at all, killing the sales. Everyone claims that yet they don't even have any evidence of it."
-I'm pretty sure that someone selling something you made at a price of two bucks and a bit of belly button lint will pretty much torpedo any chance of someone buying your stuff. The fact that it was explicitly mentioned that the price floor was made to fix this indicates that it was a problem.
8)"You didn't state any of them yet"
-You state them. You have your reasons as to why you are against the price floor, they are your arguments. Go fetch them and show them to us.
9)"1. Clothing quality has not even changed in any way before and after price floor. 2. Why exactly do they suddenly have to "spend their money wisely" after 6 years?"
-1. You talk about evidence, yet cannot find any of your own. 2. Because of the price floor!
10)"There has not been the slightest change whatsoever in the catalog, and there's no fun in clothing making anymore all because roblox let their greed get the best if them."
-No fun for you, perhaps, but still fun for others.
11)"Because it should have never been made into a serious thing. Why should designing a virtual image have any competativity towards developing games? It was fine how it was before, and you could get even more recognition before, but the total sales in all general clothing have decreased."
-Because perhaps those people want to buy those hats that ROBLOX puts on the catalog. Or gears. Or packages. Except they didn't earn very much from it, compared to game makers: you can visit a game multiple times, but you can only buy clothes once, unless you delete them for the purpose of buying them again, which doesn't happen all that often.
12)"Except that's not true, because a year ago, I copied the most famous classic shirt and sold it, and people still buy it daily when i put it back on sale."
-Are you selling it for a lower price than the original? Because that is the point of the whole reselling problem. If you copy it and sell it for the same price, it's a different story altogether.
13)"Really? So why then, does roblox make it into such a big deal that it's competing with games now?"
-Because they can monetize it.
I thought you were already aware of that, and that that the reason was why you are throwing such a hissy fit about it.
14)"So roblox has a lot of money now? Then money isn't a problem for lowering price floor I suppose.
And i already know about what devex does, no need to explain."
-There is no such thing as enough money.
15)"Nobody brought up devex having to do with price floor, however it is somewhat relevant to it, money-wise."
Not really.
16)"And how would you know anything about how roblox runs their company?"
-He seems to know more about it than you, jave, seeing as you are trying to use 'greed' as a point to prove something, which is as flimsy as it can get.
17)"What are you referring to? I don't need your subjective claims anyway."
-I'm sorry, but you are the person using things like "ROBLOX is greedy" and "Making clothes is no fun anymore" as arguments, losing all forms of credibility. I am okay with people arguing about the price floor, but damn, at least argue properly. |
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"Now, tell me this, if ROBLOX had originally set the price floor for items at 100 Tix since 2007"
The would be complaining from the beginning, noob mini mod.
You'll get fired if you keep mini-modding everything like this, unless the other Admins want you to do it (which I believe true, in such a corrupt planet as Earth)
Repetita non juvant |
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deltavJoin Date: 2008-01-01
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"The would be complaining from the beginning, noob mini mod."
Please learn the correct definition of minimod. A minimod is a person that reports everything he/she sees as offensive, and reports a whole lot. Datastore does none of the sort. |
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"100 Tix is affordable."
Come on Data stop being stupid in front of the truth.
In real life 100 euros is not affordable, so in roblox, the greediest site ever, you think 10 DAYS OF WAITING is affordabe for A SHIRT??????
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deltavJoin Date: 2008-01-01
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@nathan
Or you could make a place and greatly speed up the process. Sure, it takes effort and time, but let's see it this way": if you compare tickets to euros, or any other form of real life currency, then you know that free money does not exist, and that you have to work for it. |
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DataStoreJoin Date: 2012-02-07
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@Desp (in reply to me),
1) There’s every reason it shouldn’t. Also, I bought eight shirts and pants before the introduction of the price floor. That’s hardly a giant bundle of cheap clothing. My financial good fortune is also not factoring into my arguments presented towards you, at all. They are based on my opinions.
Also, you ask me to not twist your words, yet you do exactly the same to me. I never claimed to know everything about ROBLOX, as a company nor am I a magician – I don’t pull things out of thin air. You, on the other hand, pull things out of certain places on a regular basis.
2) You would make a great politician, they dodge questions as well. As Espithel commonly says on such threads as these; you can’t outright remove the price floor without replacing it with something – so what would you replace it with? Lowering the price floor is a ridiculously low level isn’t another path, that’s just undoing what the price floor did which has had some positive outcomes. Whilst yes, it does go against those doing it for fun, it helps those who weren’t and of whom were being decimated by those selling their clothing cheaply – those doing it for fun.
3) I’m NBC currently. I was NBC for a while, yet I still support the idea regardless of whether or not I had a Dominus.
4) Please go make a shirt, of excellent quality, in less than a minute. Some people spend hours on what they make, others thirty minutes or more. Some people spend days getting shadowing correct, etc. You seem to misunderstand the process, quite significantly. Clothing creators deserve to get an income from what they make, time is money after all. Also, if anything, you should be glad (along with the rest of ROBLOX) that you get anything at all – that they actually listen to reasonable people.
5) No, it’s not unfair for NBC to have to wait ten days for clothing. ROBLOX isn’t a fashion runway show, if you’re looking for that find another game that’s more for you.
6) ROBLOX is a learning game. It teaches many things, or is at least supposed to. Financial sensibility is a good lesson to be taught, as well as the idea that you can’t have everything you want in the world.
ROBLOX isn’t being greedy, if anything you are. You’re the one who wishes for clothing creators to bow to the consumer of their products, and make nothing at all on what they make. Again, I could understand your point of them being greedy if they actually pocketed what they made as a yearly bonus, but they don’t.
I completely disagree with your overall sentiment here. Those creating clothing, for ROBLOXians, should have an equal chance of being able to make the same that a game developer can. It can be argued that games are simply virtual images. It can also be argued that creating games and creating clothing is a form of art, to an extent. Should game developers perhaps get nothing either?
I said slows, not stop. It’s not going to be the same for everything, and is merely my viewpoint on this.
7) Oh noes, just because ROBLOX wants clothing creators to make an equal amount of money to that of clothing creators now makes it so that clothing is the only thing that matters on ROBLOX. Get real, I beg of you.
8) Again, putting words in my mouth. I never said ROBLOX had a lot of money, I said it would increase their profits.
9) Their profits don’t just sprout legs and walk off into the pockets of their staff. My views are based on common business sense, and common sense overall. If you really wish, I could ask for you on the RbxDev forums.
Also, to anyone reading (minus Desp), I'm incredibly sorry for my wordwall. I'll also reply to other replies to me after this post.
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DataStoreJoin Date: 2012-02-07
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@Nathan,
What you said has no relevance to the point I made. I pointed out that if ROBLOX’s user base had been made accustomed to such a price in 2007, they wouldn't be complaining now. That has nothing to do with being a mini-mod, of which is a terrible come back on your part. Deltav is also correct in his definition – if your intention is to maim me by insults, please at least do it correctly.
Your comparison of 100 Tix to 100 Euros is also a completely ludicrous comparison. Whilst I’m not going to waste my time converting 100 Tix into a real life amount of money, I will say that it’s something incredibly small – of which you wouldn’t be able to afford a shirt or pants with in real life.
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DespairusJoin Date: 2008-09-03
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this is fun
"1) There’s every reason it shouldn’t."
Which you still haven't stated why.
"Also, I bought eight shirts and pants before the introduction of the price floor."
LOL, So you did stack up on clothing beforehand. And you minimod at the people who don't have clothing or endured price floor happening without any consent of it.
"That’s hardly a giant bundle of cheap clothing."
That's 160 days for an NBC'er.
"My financial good fortune is also not factoring into my arguments presented towards you, at all."
LOL you brag about your money. That's just sad.
"They are based on my opinions."
and it's subjective crap.
"Also, you ask me to not twist your words, yet you do exactly the same to me."
Except, I don't.
"I never claimed to know everything about ROBLOX, as a company nor am I a magician – I don’t pull things out of thin air."
Sure, so that's why you've just been talking like an economist all day and pulling random claims out of thin air.
"You, on the other hand, pull things out of certain places on a regular basis."
You, on the other hand, just made a claim out of thin air.
"2) You would make a great politician, they dodge questions as well."
Funny the way you talk about yourself,
"As Espithel commonly says on such threads as these; you can’t outright remove the price floor without replacing it with something – so what would you replace it with?"
Replace it, hold on, with, wait for it, NOTHING! Cause it was never needed in the first place. If not, they can atleast lower it by half.
"Lowering the price floor is a ridiculously low level isn’t another path,"
I only want it to be lowered by half. Lowering it by half is not ridiculously low.
"that’s just undoing what the price floor did which has had some positive outcomes. Whilst yes, it does go against those doing it for fun, it helps those who weren’t and of whom were being decimated by those selling their clothing cheaply – those doing it for fun."
"Positive outcomes" which you never state, and you call me "the question dodger".
Clothing should never be taken seriously.
"3) I’m NBC currently. I was NBC for a while, yet I still support the idea regardless of whether or not I had a Dominus."
So you support the removal of price floor, but you also want it to stay. Seems legit.
"4) Please go make a shirt, of excellent quality, in less than a minute."
I've already done that before, and I have more important things to do, and I'm not tbc anymore nao, am i?
"Some people spend hours on what they make, others thirty minutes or more."
Proof
Some people spend days getting shadowing correct, etc. You seem to misunderstand the process, quite significantly. Clothing creators deserve to get an income from what they make, time is money after all"
except no one said they had to take a just-for-fun feature so seriously. They survived 6 years without PF already, and there's an extremely low chance anyone would copy clothing and it get more sales than the original. It still wouldn't stop the sales of the original in any way, and i'd like some proof.
"Also, if anything, you should be glad (along with the rest of ROBLOX) that you get anything at all – that they actually listen to reasonable people."
At this point in time, that "anything" is worthless. The clothing makers are the ones who should be glad they get anything at all. "Reasonable people"? They're greedy and selfish bc'ers, asking for roblox to increase the price floor 10x.
"5) No, it’s not unfair for NBC to have to wait ten days for clothing."
I'm glad to hear it.
"ROBLOX isn’t a fashion runway show,"
Roblox sure makes it out to be one, and price floor just encourages even more fashion to be in clothing.
"if you’re looking for that find another game that’s more for you."
How about the hundreds of people wanting clothing to be taken seriously go find another game?
"6) ROBLOX is a learning game. It teaches many things, or is at least supposed to."
It teaches building, not economics.
"Financial sensibility is a good lesson to be taught, as well as the idea that you can’t have everything you want in the world."
Where did financial sensibility come from? This is a building game for kids, not real life. If you're looking for that, "you can go find another game that's more for you."
'"ROBLOX isn’t being greedy, if anything you are."
So i'm being greedy...for wanting an update back that we've always had for 6 years...that roblox suddenly ruined?
"You’re the one who wishes for clothing creators to bow to the consumer of their products, and make nothing at all on what they make."
No, I don't, and again, you're twisting my words completely and making accusations. I want price floor to be at 50 tix, no more, no less. They will actually get more sales and recognition instead. Life's not all about profit, and they're being the greedy ones acting like getting anything for their clothing isn't good enough, even though you can still get plenty of sales for expensive clothing, too.
"Again, I could understand your point of them being greedy if they actually pocketed what they made as a yearly bonus, but they don’t."
Proof?
"Those creating clothing, for ROBLOXians, should have an equal chance of being able to make the same that a game developer can."
No, they shouldn't, because this is a virtual image that should've never been taken serious, not a game.
"It can be argued that games are simply virtual images."
Except they aren't, they're a 3-dimensionally rendered world that required building and programming.
"It can also be argued that creating games and creating clothing is a form of art, to an extent. Should game developers perhaps get nothing either?"
No, and I NEVER SAID that they don't deserve ANYTHING. Just not an overboard amount of 100 tix. There's no reason a just for fun thing should be turned into a serious art competing with games. If roblox is about game development and trying to encourage that, why should they encourage virtual clothing as an alternative? Clothing quality has not even changed in any way before and after price floor.
"I said slows, not stop. It’s not going to be the same for everything, and is merely my viewpoint on this."
which is subjective
"7) Oh noes, just because ROBLOX wants clothing creators to make an equal amount of money to that of clothing creators now makes it so that clothing is the only thing that matters on ROBLOX. Get real, I beg of you."
I already discussed this above. "Get real" says the guy foruming on a kids game.
"8) Again, putting words in my mouth. I never said ROBLOX had a lot of money, I said it would increase their profits."
Well if their profits increase, then they'll surely have a lot more money as if they didn't already have truck load of it.
"9) Their profits don’t just sprout legs and walk off into the pockets of their staff. My views are based on common business sense, and common sense overall. If you really wish, I could ask for you on the RbxDev forums."
Subjective, and no thanks, i'd rather not turn into you. I'm just speaking up for the community roblox continues to ruin.
"Also, to anyone reading (minus Desp), I'm incredibly sorry for my wordwall. I'll also reply to other replies to me after this post."
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deltavJoin Date: 2008-01-01
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"Replace it, hold on, with, wait for it, NOTHING! Cause it was never needed in the first place. If not, they can atleast lower it by half."
Well, guess what? If you can't come up with a replacement, then you can flush your hopes down the toilet, because that is the only way you would even stand a chance. |
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@Desp,
1) Sorry? Do you have trouble reading? I gave three reasons, at least, as to why it’s a good thing. You still can’t reasonably say why it should be removed.
2) Eight pairs of clothing isn’t stacking up clothing. I had no prior warning to the price floor increase, which would make your statement correct if I had of known. I only wear one set, which I’m wearing now.
I’m not bragging about my money. Bragging about my money would involve me giving your screenshots, telling you how much I can afford, and so on. You’re the one that pointed out what I have first, not I. I left myself (appearance) devoid of this argument, yet you dragged it in.
Also, you point what I say out as suggestive crap – the same can be said for what you’re posting. So far you’re merely attacking the ideologies of those opposed to you, without basis or much logic.
I’m doing an A-Level in Economics. I did Business Studies at GCSE level, and also obtained a BTEC in it. I don’t need to pull things out of thin air I’m afraid.
3) Funny how that’s your best retort here – “funny how you talk about yourself”. Also, you can’t simply remove it. No matter how much you wish to argue, or attempt to insult me, the price floor has done good for ROBLOX. Simply removing it would be a bad move on ROBLOX both due to how people have blown it up – if ROBLOX were to cave on this, it would make other people “beg” for other changes.
I’m sorry you’re unable to retain your memory for longer than five seconds, it must be truly awful. I’ve already given three positive outcomes, at least, of the price floor of which you met with disbelief. Tell me this; if clothing shouldn’t be taken seriously, why are you so hung up on the lowest price being 100 Tix?
4) Again, not what I said. I support the idea of the price floor remaining. If that was unclear, I’m sorry.
5) Not my problem.
6) I’m not going to go knock on a couple thousand people’s doors asking them how long they design things. If you’re knocking something out in a few seconds, you should apply to an art school – you would be brilliant.
If it’s just for fun, why does it matter? Why are you complaining about if it it’s so unimportant as you make it out to be? You’re throwing claims at me, and not giving proof, you deserve the same I’m afraid. I’m much too busy for your nonsense.
Apparently you also believe anyone who holds more than a couple of tickets are self-centred and greedy. That does indeed speak volumes of the kind of person you are in this world, it really does. I’d love to see you go into a Tommy Hilfiger shop, for example, and go and shout at them about how GREEDY they’re being. Right?
7) Actually, ROBLOX making itself out as a fashion runway show comes more so from people like you, who can’t give a good reason as to why they should lower the cost of clothing, yet state it’s not important – so what’s wrong with the current price, if it’s not as important as the game?
Also, perhaps people like you, who seem to have an unhealthy addiction with clothing that costs 0 tickets should find another game, after all you’re mainly a minority in this matter.
8) Financial sensibility came from the idea of ROBLOX being a learning game. ROBLOX is a building game, correct, but it’s so much more and has evolved a lot since it was created. There is, arguably (in your mind), an economic system in place – if this is only a building game, does such a thing need to exist? If ROBLOX truly is a building game only, why are you so hung up on clothing prices?
Yes, you are indeed being greedy. You basically, within your last couple of replies, stated that clothing creators are worth nothing as all they do is spend a couple of seconds on what they make, and that they shouldn’t get anything for their trouble. Great argument. It’s a good thing people, like you, are a minority in real life.
I’m not twisting your words. You never uttered what you just said (I want it to be 50 Tix), other than a little higher up from this point. What I’ve pointed out is essentially what you’re claiming. Again, it’s a good thing people with your sentiment are a minority in society “oh, if we at least get a couple of pennies for our $5 item then it’s all good”.
I offered you proof by asking if you wished for me to pose the questions to a staff members, of which you deny a bit later. You only want proof if it won’t stand you up, and if it’s not from me or anyone else who believes in the price floor.
Also, clothing creators should have an equal chance of being able to make the same as a game developer. As I’ve expressed, games are essentially virtual images so what’s the difference between that and clothing? Games give the impression of being 3D through how they’re drawn. They’re both art, to a degree. Also, you say that a virtual image should never be taken seriously, so again, why are you so hung up on the price floor if it’s not important? Huh?
I’d also like to point out that clothing creators don’t get 100 Tix as there is a marketplace tax when they sell their item, something you would know about if you weren’t so callous. Again, if you’re so against clothing being serious, you should perhaps go shout at clothing designers in real life, and also tell me why the price floor matters if they’re so unimportant?
9) Again, are you attempting to mock me? You do realise you’re also forming, or do you believe you’re currently at a pottery show arguing about a gnome?
10) As I’ve already said, ROBLOX redistributes their profits back into the game to further increase their staff (seen by their constant job openings), the client, etc. I really don’t think you understand how a business works, at all. Taxes, hosting, etc.
11) It was a reply to your word wall. |
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>Spoiled
I have builder's club and I'm not spoiled.
It's costs around £25 for Classic BC 6 months
Now 6 months is a long time without having to pay again (you will earn that money back within a few days), so really BC is actually a bargain. I could say more but it would probably start the old flamers, so there, that is what I have to say. |
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Pretty much what data said.
I would like to add that, while this has been said multiple times before, you can just make a place to speed up the process. Do not argue that you cannot compete, because that is a defeatist attitude, and also flat out lazy. You can bloody well compete, just put some effort into your work.
About the problem you are currently experiencing with your place, which might derail the thread, though in all honesty that doesn't matter all that much. First of all you put about 10 hours into your game. That is not enough to make a good game. 10 hours is nothing. In 10 hours I make 4-5 detailed pokemon models, because that's what I like and what I do, but you don't make a game in 10 hours. At least, most people don't.
Secondly, you are trying to fit into a niche which has already been filled to the brim. Not only that, but your game has a severe lack in features, compared to other games that try to do the same. The variety in maps is nice, yes, but you only got a total of 7 disasters to survive.
If I were you, I'd try to make a different game, and not ride someone else's coattails and try to copy an existing genre of games. If you can pull it off, that's fine, but at the moment you are not pulling it off, and judging from your attitude towards making the game, you are not going to pull it off anytime soon. |
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LittleL0LJoin Date: 2011-02-04
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"they shouldn't pay those people"
Are you even part of DevEx? |
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