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1Ali1
#135228975Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:12 AM GMT

for similar rules be applied to the rat vs vak war. you hold the base for the 30 minutes --> raid won. defending team holds it for 40 minutes ---> raid lost and defending team gets a point. This way 5 hour raids (referring to monsterpod's thread) are avoided and it's less of a pain for everyone. Furthermore, both sides' bases will be fair. Fort Wolf can stay the same since it's already fair (xddddddddddddddd) VAK can keep SMO the same as they kept it with RAT vs VAK. why not? i actually want reason for why this should not be done. legit.
1Ali1
#135229007Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:12 AM GMT

for similar rules be applied FROM******* the rat vs vak war.
Ratiowise
#135229049Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:13 AM GMT

make the raiders' homebase harder to spawntrap (like vak/vac's) and voila. smo is now 5x fairer.
1Ali1
#135229079Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:13 AM GMT

Reason for why this should not be done: FC would destroy VAK seeing as how we already fought them with a fair base and their cardinal method of winning at FW was for raids to last up to 5-9 hours when people had to eventually sleep or go do something else in life.
DemonTitan
#135229105Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:14 AM GMT

ratio, if you saw where the VAK/VAC spawn in the RAT v VAK war, it was already a spawn death trap. It was basically the old VAC spawn, but raiders could now surround on both sides just from spawns.
Ratiowise
#135229151Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:15 AM GMT

VAK has been training, so don't underestimate them. Just because the ones that come visit FW2 are horrible in every possible way, doesn't mean you should blame the rest of them :(
Drsniak
#135229196Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:16 AM GMT

VAK and FC should switch spawns.
Ratiowise
#135229203Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:16 AM GMT

you guys have a height advantage demon, i know where you guys spawn. with the height advantage, it would be harder to shoot you guys from below.
Ratiowise
#135229246Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:16 AM GMT

that would be an amazing idea, sirgeorgeduff. too bad youre in vac and your words dont mean anything to vaktus, lol.
1Ali1
#135229255Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:17 AM GMT

I wouldn't mind switching where FC and VAK spawn lol.
Drsniak
#135229281Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:17 AM GMT

At your base. Not ours.
1Ali1
#135229284Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:17 AM GMT

NO BUT WHY SHOULD THIS NOT BE DONE
1Ali1
#135229322Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:18 AM GMT

yeah, I know what you were referring to. it doesn't make a difference to us, lol.
Drsniak
#135229335Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:18 AM GMT

As you guys obviously have the skill over us in bows so techinqually we should at least get a little advantage.
Ratiowise
#135229428Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:20 AM GMT

"As you guys obviously have the skill over us in bows so techinqually we should at least get a little advantage." lol, this made me laugh. just because we're better at you guys in something, doesnt mean you should allow smo to fix it for you. that was the main problem vak had in the tgi-vak war, they allowed smo to solve all their problems.
1Ali1
#135230402Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:38 AM GMT

That's fudging ridiculous but I'm goddam sure this is how every other VAC/VAK thinks. We don't have your guns or unexplainable magical techniques of obtaining brick by brick replicas of forts yet we don't give ourselves perks. Leave the talking to a VAK. They at least try to coat it with some unjustifiable bs. ok no, dont.
Frozen2Spooks
#135230720Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:43 AM GMT

@SirGeorgeDuff For a more reasonable explanation of why we shouldn't give you guys more of an advantage of FW2. First off, you guys stole our bows so there fore you guys aren't necessarily bad with them, you guys aren't good with them either, but still you stole our tech, so you guys are capable of using them. Secondly, why give the raiders the advantage at our base? I mean SMO doesn't support the raiders one bit, the raiders base and the actual raider spawn isn't any improve what so ever, it's just less walking distance. So if you'd like to argue why you guys need more help at OUR base, please explain.
EnergyJunk
#135231178Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:51 AM GMT

"Leave the talking to a VAK. They at least try to coat it with some unjustifiable bs." this
look01
#135231262Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:52 AM GMT

All of our stuff is legit. No hacks used
Frozen2Spooks
#135231361Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:54 AM GMT

@Look01 I believe your stuff wasn't hacked, but I still don't understand how you guys got your hands on FW2. The bows I understand that you guys have an older model that you edited, but stealing a whole base? ??
FireTG
#135247287Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:59 PM GMT

the stuff IS hacked it's just that these people don't think it can be traced back to them
SCR0LLS
#135247484Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:03 PM GMT

Stealing? As in free models?
blutologist
#135247523Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:03 PM GMT

lol i have a terrible feeling about this war
ShadowSTR
#135247618Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:06 PM GMT

"VAK can keep SMO the same as they kept it with RAT vs VAK." Mostly this

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