ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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The system has two subsystems; a standard HR-over-LR system and a council system.
The HR-over-LR system works exactly the same as any other clan's system. The higher the rank, the higher the amount of power.
The council, though, is different. 9 people are chosen to serve as a council (will be referred to as 'the councilmen'), and 1 person is chosen to serve as a commanding officer (will be referred to as 'the commander').
A 3rd position is the actual leader of the group; He is the highest in the chain of authority in the HR-over-LR system. He does not have any power in the council system.
Councilmen and the commander serve 2 week terms; However, the cycle is offset by a week; End of week 1, new councilmen, end of week 2, new commander, end of week 3, new councilmen, and it repeats.
The council elects the commander for his two-week term from a list of valid candidates, compiled before the voting. The councilmen, however, are chosen randomly from a separate list of valid candidates (one lists valid candidates for commander, the other for council).
Important points of the system that I cannot explain in full detail due to thread length requirements:
1. The commander doesn't have all power; He makes proposals to the council, and the council will either approve or deny his proposal. If it is approved, it is seen as a Commander's Order.
2. As with standard clans, a higher HR dominates a lower HR. However, all HRs are considered to serve both the clan and the council. It is their duty to act out the Commander's Orders.
3. In the case of a HR refusing to act upon the Commander's Order's instructions, a higher rank is brought in to handle him. The system of HR-over-LR is standard here; If the HR still refuses to act correctly, the higher rank can punish him. In the case that the HR refusing to act is, for example, is of the highest rank (below leader), the leader of the group will discipline him as standard.
4. Prior to the installation of the system, a list is compiled of actions that require a Commander's Order to be acted out (examples include declaring war or other major changes to a clan's function). If the action is not on the list, it is a matter of a HR ordering it.
5. Any HR, no matter how high of rank he/she is, can not overrule a Commander's Order. A Commander's Order can overrule a HR's actions, though.
6. To prevent repeated stays in office, the councilmen may only serve 1 term every 2 terms (2 weeks every 4 weeks) at maximum. The commander may only serve 1 term every 3 terms (2 weeks every 6 weeks) at maximum. This area may be configured based on the size of the clan, or the amount of valid candidates for either office.
7. The list of requirements to be considered a valid candidate for either office does not have to include a rank requirement. Meaning, a councilmen/commander does not have to be of a certain rank. This may be configured, however, to change it entirely (if a clan does want the council to be rank based), or to edit it (a test must be passed to become a valid candidate, for example) as a clan sees fit.
Hopefully, I didn't forget anything. If I did, I'll post a reply with what I forgot.
I will answer questions as they come up. Criticism and judgement, so long as they are productive, are wanted. |
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LexatusJoin Date: 2013-09-28
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Brilliant System.
Might use this for a clan :L |
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AcusiontJoin Date: 2009-10-17
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it seems this will only work for bigger groups
but i didnt read it all since im in a heroic in wow and tanking, so, ill get back to you |
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NODTIMEJoin Date: 2012-10-24
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Looks rather interesting. |
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ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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@acus
I've designed the system to not be based on clan size. Anything I've said in this thread is simply a recommendation; If you feel it necessary to change the term time/term limit, go ahead. If you feel it necessary to change ANYTHING, go ahead. It's really up to you. |
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relivableJoin Date: 2014-04-02
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Very nice.
The system is very interesting. |
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ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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b1 |
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KillicideJoin Date: 2010-05-08
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Isn't this called democracy |
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ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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@halo
Short answer; no.
Long answer; noooooooooooooooooooooo.
Democracy is a system where all people have equal say in government.
This is a system where different types of government mix. |
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GigazicJoin Date: 2011-06-04
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What's a novel idea. Could work well in future powerclans. |
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LexatusJoin Date: 2013-09-28
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It's a mix f Communism, Socialism and Demcracy. |
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l3lamingoJoin Date: 2013-10-02
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o.o |
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b3njam1nJoin Date: 2007-11-05
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Democracy is such a stupid term, so broad. America isn't even technically one.
Sounds like America's old system. The State senators used to vote for the federal senate before they let citizens vote for them |
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ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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@b3n
I got a lot of my inspiration from older American government and ancient Achaemenid government.
I was originally trying to implement a mix of feudalism and democracy but it really didn't mix well. I came up with this. |
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ShadowSTRJoin Date: 2010-07-08
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The obly major problem I see is how well can they work together?
If a hi com is constantly changing in a clan it will fail quickly due to people getting settled in and getting to know each other. The better people know how the people they are working with react to stuff and how they work the better, you need a good flow. The longer uou know someone the better you get to know them(obviously) and a week is not a long time at all(assuming tey don't get reelected). Take UCR for an example, they have had a ton of diffent leaders and have been dead for a while, specially right after a switch, but since jko has had it for a while it is recovering.
You need to know the people you work with well to have full potential |
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ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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Honestly, if you're able to be considered a valid candidate for either position, people should know your name, and you should know theirs.
I don't really know how you'd be put on the list of candidates if no one knew how well you worked with other people.
Also, the term is 2 weeks, meaning they would have twice as long to get to know each other (if they don't already) than you are talking about ("a week is not a long time at all"). |
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pwnox8Join Date: 2009-06-28
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replace half the words with comrade and half with stalin and everyone will bandwagon |
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ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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@pwny
Yes. |
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ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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b2 |
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ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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b3 |
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ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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b4 |
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ScrubnautJoin Date: 2012-06-29
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b5 |
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LexatusJoin Date: 2013-09-28
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This system is been used for HydraCore, thanks for this Ver :) |
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Leader has 0 power, I sense uprisings |
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