CheeseyMacral
#145928226Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:08 AM GMT

>Death Penalty for repeat offenders you have no regard for human life and have never contemplated how valuable it is >Texas Governor Rick Perry stated that "If you commit the most heinous of crimes in Texas, you can expect to face the ultimate penalty under our laws." again, that is EXTREMELY hypocritical and inhumane i will state this once more, punishing people for killing someone..... by killing them is not only ironic and hypocritical, but it is unjust, absurd, and irrational you have no regard for human life and have never contemplated how valuable it is >I solely believe in the "eye-for-an-eye" theory you have no regard for human life and have never contemplated how valuable it is Iᴛ ᴀɪɴᴛ ᴇᴀsʏ, ʙᴇɪɴɢ Cʜᴇᴇsᴇʏ.
SRHL
#145928266Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:09 AM GMT

I support the death penalty, but only for murderers and serial rapists.
Islesllah
#145928385Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:10 AM GMT

TBH the problem with the American criminal system is it's all about punishment for a criem that has already been committed and can't be undone, instead of actually being productive and making sure they can repair the malfunction in the brain of someone that damaged society so that they can prevent them from doing anything bad. If you want to know how our theory that people who are anti-authority will respond to harsh punishment by authority has been working, then just take a look at this; http://prisonpolicy.org/global/ Most places that have a low amount of crime and incarceration focus on actual rehabilitation. Like for example Norway (which is probably by far the best country on Earth in quite a few aspects) are very lenient on prison sentences. Instead of locking people behind bars and torturing them or just flat out killing them, they make sure that their sentence is productive. As a result they have a homicide rate that's near 1/50th of the US' homicide rate.
TinyBerry3
#145928413Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:11 AM GMT

"you have no regard for human life and have never contemplated how valuable it is" The murderer obviously shares the same regard as he took someone out of this planet. Why treat him different if he is keen on continuing these malicious acts if he were able to be set free?
SRHL
#145928522Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:12 AM GMT

By murderers I should have specified: Murderers who have committed more than one murder, not counting involuntary manslaughter.
CheeseyMacral
#145928592Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:13 AM GMT

>I think it's better to take someone off the planet that has killed multiple people and do not regret their actions. you have no regard for human life and i am disgusted oh wait, you're tinyberry3, i should've known you would've posted your garbage opinions >Unless they're going to get out and take the lives of others life inprisonment >Missouri 5th in the nation for execution, leads the nation in executions in 2014 good thing i live in wisconsin, a state that abolished the inhumane acts in 1853 >I support the death penalty, but only for murderers and serial (censoring so i dont get banned) again, you as well have no regard for human life Iᴛ ᴀɪɴᴛ ᴇᴀsʏ, ʙᴇɪɴɢ Cʜᴇᴇsᴇʏ.
TinyBerry3
#145928761Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:14 AM GMT

I'd love to see Cheesey defending a guy who murdered his family and not given the death setence for it.
Swagudelo
#145928778Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:15 AM GMT

Hmmm let's see Joseph Stalin killed 60 million people Mao Zedong killed 50 million people Emperor Hirohito who killed 30 million Chinese and told his soldiers to "kill, burn, and loot" all of them Adolf Eichmann the architect of the Holocaust in charge of rounding up Jews and killing them Osama bin Laden the creator of al-Qaeda and responsible for 2 million deaths according to Cheesey they deserved to live and keep killing people
SRHL
#145928795Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:15 AM GMT

I have regard for human life. If a murderer is going to repeatedly have little to no regard for human life and intentionally kill people, why shouldn't they be killed as well, since that's exactly what they've done to other human beings?
bubbleduck
#145928880Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:16 AM GMT

"and keep killing people" didn't say that
Swagudelo
#145928998Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:17 AM GMT

Right cause I'm sure H1tl3r, Eichmann, and Himmler would have stopped ethnic cleansing and taking over the world if nobody wanted to kill them
Ithesportsbomb
#145929047Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:18 AM GMT

doctorgonzo
#145929050Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:18 AM GMT

the death penalty: * has not been proven to reduce crime * is cruel and inhumane * doesn't discourage smaller crimes * doesn't discourage large scale non violent crimes (white collar time) * is incredibly expensive * is permanent (bad for the wrongly convicted) but i guess if you get the thrill of victory from pointless revenge, please keep supporting the death penalty. it doesn't undo the crime
CheeseyMacral
#145929055Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:18 AM GMT

>The murderer obviously shares the same regard as he took someone out of this planet. Why treat him different if he is keen on continuing these malicious acts if he were able to be set free? how does he "obviously share the same regard"? how does killing him prove anything except for the fact that the prison that is killing him is hypocritical and inhumane >Murderers who have committed more than one murder, not counting involuntary manslaughter. and please tell me what killing them will prove i will no longer post on this thread because it is getting redundant and anyone who thinks that killing someone for punishment is okay is no better than the "murderers" they are envisioning Iᴛ ᴀɪɴᴛ ᴇᴀsʏ, ʙᴇɪɴɢ Cʜᴇᴇsᴇʏ.
bubbleduck
#145929097Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:18 AM GMT

youre getting off track here
Islesllah
#145929149Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:19 AM GMT

This has gone pretty far off the rails now lol. Why are we comparing domestic murderers to figureheads of groups responsible for genocide?
doctorgonzo
#145929167Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:19 AM GMT

great comparison rune. it's really relevant and not a logical fallacy
Ithesportsbomb
#145929184Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:20 AM GMT

"anyone who thinks that killing someone for punishment is okay is no better than the "murderers" they are envisioning" Wouldn't want to eliminate threats to society!
bubbleduck
#145929194Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:20 AM GMT

because rune argues like a politician lmao
Swagudelo
#145929269Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:21 AM GMT

How am I getting off track? Cheesey stated that NO human deserved to have their life taken away from them Are H1tl3r, Eichmann, and Himmler not humans?
TinyBerry3
#145929271Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:21 AM GMT

"how does he "obviously share the same regard"? He does not value human life (which is your vocal point) or he would not have murdered the individual(s).
Ithesportsbomb
#145929333Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:21 AM GMT

Some scummy humans pose a serious threat to law-abiding citizens? Whom should you spare in this situation?
bubbleduck
#145929349Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:22 AM GMT

the death penalty: * has not been proven to reduce crime * is cruel and inhumane * doesn't discourage smaller crimes * doesn't discourage large scale non violent crimes (white collar time) * is incredibly expensive * is permanent (bad for the wrongly convicted) but i guess if you get the thrill of victory from pointless revenge, please keep supporting the death penalty. it doesn't undo the crime x1000
CheeseyMacral
#145929358Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:22 AM GMT

actual last post: murderer's possible thoughts: "killing someone is ok" anyone who supports the death penalty: "killing someone is ok" murderer: *kills someone, is happy* anyone who supports the death penalty: *supports prison, prison kills murderer, people who support death penalty are happy* someone PLEASE explain how the people supporting the killing (and the prison officers who do the killing) are any different than the murderers themselves? Iᴛ ᴀɪɴᴛ ᴇᴀsʏ, ʙᴇɪɴɢ Cʜᴇᴇsᴇʏ.
Ithesportsbomb
#145929433Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:23 AM GMT

"someone PLEASE explain how the people supporting the killing" Because that would be ridding society of serious threats